My first 2 "Ayahuasca" experiences.

[Nerex]

Hello everyone.

I've finally been able to get the ingredients for "Ayahuasca": MHRB, Syrian Rue, ACRB and some Chaliponga as well. I've tried to access to the hyperspace 2 times now (these were my first psychedelic experiences ever).
Unfortunately though I was a bit disappointed; I tried the powder-in-capsules method (I'm still living with my parents, to it's difficult for me to try the traditional brew method). For the first time I've ingested 2,5g of Syrian Rue as MAO-I and 4g of ACRB... I've experienced what should be a "Level 2 trip level" according to the shroomery site chart. I had stomach ache but I didn't throw up.

The second time, with the same ingesting method, I've raised the dose to 3g of Syrian Rue and 8g (!) of MHRB. No stomach ache this time fortunately. I had stronger effects for sure, but nothing comparable to the myriad of report that I read here on the Nexus and on Erowid. I hadn't got any significant or striking visions with eyes closed/opened; actually I don't even remember much of that "little" that I've seen.

Theoretically 5g of MHRB should be plenty to give you a meaningful experience, and 8g should be a strong dose, according to what I've read. I've been stuck for 3/4 of the trip in the classical annoying mental loops such as: "What if I'll never come back to the normal state of mind?", "I don't have control on myself!", "I'm losing touch with reality!"... but nothing even near to what is experienced in the hyperspace.

I've started to trip in 1 hour or a bit more (in the 2 trips), taking the DMT 20 / 30 minutes after the Harmala. The experiences last for like 4 hours or so; I've puked (violently) only on the second trip and had not any healing or positive feeling at all.

What do you think about this? Am I doing anything wrong in the seek of a meaningful experience?

 

[pitubo]

I've started to trip in 1 hour or a bit more (in the 2 trips), taking the DMT 20 / 30 minutes after the Harmala. The experiences last for like 4 hours or so; I've puked (violently) only on the second trip and had not any healing or positive feeling at all.

What do you think about this? Am I doing anything wrong in the seek of a meaningful experience?

You're doing fine. I would take the harmala together with the DMT, or at least very shortly spaced. Another thing to try is to split the harmala and DMT over two to four portions and consume those at 30 minute intervals.

With regard to the content of your voyage: it may take some time and "learning" to let go and immerse into the ayahuasca. It did for me. I find that it is much easier to "block" the effects of ayahuasca than other psychedelics. Once you have found enough trust in yourself and in the ayahuasca, you will be able to allow yourself to travel deeper into it and into yourself. This is part of the process. Be patient with yourself. It will improve the results.

Maybe the situation with your parents also keeps you from "going off the deep end". Please be responsible towards yourself and your parents. No need to frighten them with something they might not understand and to which they may overreact out of genuine concern or uninformed fear. Keep in mind that a situation may arise where you have to explain to them what you have been about. If this is a really big problem, it may logically also effect your ayahuasca experience. Try to work this out in a mature way. This too would be part of the process.

Safe and happy traveling!

 

[Nerex]

Thank you very much for your wise words, Pitubo.

I forgot to mention that I would never do it in my house with parents around; I've done it in a safe place with just a trusty friend as a sitter.

Could you please explain why would do you take the DMT and the Harmala at the same time, or in a short interval between one and the other? The most of which I've read indicate a 30 minutes / 1 hour interval.