My second extraction result [PIC]

[Chowder]

Here it is.

Now here's the weird story.

I made two extractions using q21q21 tek (with d-limonen), from the same batch of MHRB, 50g for each extraction.

1st: left it 24 hrs for the first pull and another 24 for the second.
Result: first pull, 1.1g, while second of 0.4g.
Enhanced into lion's tail herb. Smoked in waterless bong... no effect whatsoever, no matter how much we used. (although we smoked some freebase with the same exact method later and it worked)

2nd: left it 48 hrs for the first pull, and another week, for the second.
Result: first pull, 0.25g, second, (seen in the picture), 1.4g. (that's awkward, istn't it?)
Smoked the first pull, I barely felt something; friend reports bright visuals on a higher dose.

Now, it's time for a second attempt.

What do you think about the looks of the product? Did you get similar results?
How much would you suggest for a normal dose of this jim-jam?

Thanks for your attention.

 

[3rdI]

jimjam and crystal doses are pretty similar for me.

why didnt you follow the tek properly with regards to the pulling time? did you follow the rest of the tek fully? this could have effected your outcome.

 

[Chowder]

What exactly do you mean by not following the tek?
It says a minimum of 24hrs for the first pull...

 

[3rdI]

nope it says this

Step 2: Mix so the solvent contacts all the bark-mush as thoroughly as possible, it should not mix into the bark and should remain transparent.

Mix it well several times over 10-20 minutes. That is all that is needed to dissolve the DMT-freebase in to the solvent. YOU DO NOT NEED TO STIR CONSTANTLY, ONLY PERIODICALLY

I like to think of using the non-polar solvent like using water to dissolve some salt. Though the salt will not instantaneously become saturated with salt, it will in a few minutes. Same with the solvent, it is the bark and lime that works for hours, not the solvent.

the stuff about 24/48 hours refers to the amounts of DMT that is extractable after that amount of time.

The first pull if done immediately after getting the lime-bark to one of the consistencies shouldould yield anywhere from 10%-35% (in my experience.) If the first pull is done after 6-8 hours however it will likely yield 25%-60%.
2 pulls done around 24 hours and 48 hours (or later) should be enough to get 80%-90% of the DMT (In my experience).

if it didnt work it may be due to your ingredients, what lime ect did you use?

 

[Chowder]

Yeah, I did the 24/48 hrs the first time and then much longer.
I followed the tek very closely (Im the geeky type in these matters).

I used lab quality lime from this vendor. Or so it seems.

 

[3rdI]

ok, sorry, i think i read your post wrong, i thought you were pulling for 24/48hrs.

i use the Q21 tek for jimjam and it goes like this

vinegar soak for 1hr
add lime and base for 1hr
pull for 1hr x3
salt out with vinegar
evap vinegar to a goo
infuse goo
:surprised :surprised :surprised

works every time.

i checked the link and searched for lime and calcium hydroxide and nothing came up.

 

[Chowder]

Yes, I've done the exact thing...

I'm just coming now from 3 failed attempts: 30, 50, 100 mg...
I can't be sure whether it's the method or the substance, so for this purpose I'm going to try pharmahuasca method tomorrow. I got some Syrian Rue.

For the near future, I'll try to construct the machine or the key v.2, as I cannot afford the GVG yet...

By the way... you didn't tell me what do you think about how my yield looks like. Was yours similar?

Also, what dosage could you suggest for the pharmahuasca tomorrow?

Thanks so much brother!:thumb_up:

 

[TheRawringDinosaur]

I used pickling lime for my base and each time I got pure white powder. I would separate some of the clumpy yellow bits but there wasn't much.
At first I wasn't smoking it right and I didn't get any effects. After I got it right and got the smoke rolling and inhaled THAT, I was tripping :3

 

[Chowder]

i checked the link and searched for lime and calcium hydroxide and nothing came up.

Yeah, true, it's not there anymore. It got me a bit scared, I ran to check my invoice to be sure that I actually bought calcium hydroxide. It was. I think they just don't have it anymore.

@TheRawringDinosaur Sounds a bit weird that you got a white powder. Also, maybe you can let me know what do you actually mean by not smoking it right, and what do you do different now. I have the same feeling that I'm not smoking it right, but I just cannot waste more spice on trials. I want to try the pharmahuasca today, and determine the potency.

 

[3rdI]

Yes, I've done the exact thing...

I'm just coming now from 3 failed attempts: 30, 50, 100 mg...
I can't be sure whether it's the method or the substance, so for this purpose I'm going to try pharmahuasca method tomorrow. I got some Syrian Rue.

For the near future, I'll try to construct the machine or the key v.2, as I cannot afford the GVG yet...

By the way... you didn't tell me what do you think about how my yield looks like. Was yours similar?

Also, what dosage could you suggest for the pharmahuasca tomorrow?

Thanks so much brother!:thumb_up:

i never get my jimjam to solidify i just infuse the goo into some mullien, so i cant compare mine to yours, sorry.

if your following the correct method then its gotta be your ingredients, however i always failed at the Q21 crystal tek so i feel your pain:d

 

[Chowder]

You made me do it... [INGREDIENTS]
The only remaining variable is the MHRB, which I got from here.

I'm going to know more about the potency of my spice after ingesting 100-110mg today, together with syrian rue extract... this should give me some answers...

 

[3rdI]

well your barks fine, i use the same vendor and have got up to 2% yields.

I would change your vinegar, it has added spice which i pressume is for flavour if your pickling, you can pick up some normal plain sarsons distilled from the same shop.

Not sure if the colour of your limo makes any difference but mine is kind of clear not yellow.

 

[Chowder]

Wow, I haven't noticed that. So vinegar with spice... sounds good to me
But yeah, this could be it... I'll get some plain vinegar next time.