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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)

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I think when reusing limonene, it starts getting very packed full of oils and no longer remains as efficent. Then what DOES get into the solvent will be much more impure.

I did all sorts of stuff like adding 30% hcl after I'd finished salting, then giving it a good shake and discarding, then rinsing with clean water and that seems to make the limonene a little more reusable, but I don't think you get the best results unless you use fresh stuff.
 
What about distilling the used limonene? Everything on the net seems to say that steam-distillation is necessary, so maybe adding water and then drying the distillate with dried MgSO4 would work?
 
forgive swim but this is swims first time trying this one... and is in the middle of it. does it matter much if there is a little limo in the evap pan? Also what color should the vinegar be? the limo is a greenish yellowish white color, and now the gar has a slight whitish yellow hue. when placed in the evap pan it looks clear though.
swim is using a bit more vinegar in the process because swims gravy strainer is large making it hard to use other wise. should this make much difference outside of evap time? swim has also just been leaving the 300ml and after straining off adding the next pull to it and then vinegar as well. swim does not foresee this will be a problem either. any words of wisdom?
 
Touche Guevara said:
What about distilling the used limonene? Everything on the net seems to say that steam-distillation is necessary, so maybe adding water and then drying the distillate with dried MgSO4 would work?
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I think distillation alone would be more than sufficent for this purpose. I just never had the right tools to set it up.
 
Dorge said:
forgive swim but this is swims first time trying this one... and is in the middle of it. does it matter much if there is a little limo in the evap pan? Also what color should the vinegar be? the limo is a greenish yellowish white color, and now the gar has a slight whitish yellow hue. when placed in the evap pan it looks clear though.
swim is using a bit more vinegar in the process because swims gravy strainer is large making it hard to use other wise. should this make much difference outside of evap time? swim has also just been leaving the 300ml and after straining off adding the next pull to it and then vinegar as well. swim does not foresee this will be a problem either. any words of wisdom?
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A little limonene in the evap pan won't hurt anything, it will just make your resulting extract a little less pure. The vinegar won't look like much until it starts to get thick. More vinegar will take longer to evap, but won't hurt anything.

Save everything, that way if you get a lousy yield you can just pull again and refine your technique.
 
soulfood said:
Touche Guevara said:
What about distilling the used limonene? Everything on the net seems to say that steam-distillation is necessary, so maybe adding water and then drying the distillate with dried MgSO4 would work?
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I think distillation alone would be more than sufficent for this purpose. I just never had the right tools to set it up.
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My only concern would be whether added water would be necessary to home-distill the limonene, and then how to get the distillate sufficiently pure so it would work for this tek. Anyone know of a way to test the purity of limonene?
 
soulfood said:
I think when reusing limonene, it starts getting very packed full of oils and no longer remains as efficent. Then what DOES get into the solvent will be much more impure.

I did all sorts of stuff like adding 30% hcl after I'd finished salting, then giving it a good shake and discarding, then rinsing with clean water and that seems to make the limonene a little more reusable, but I don't think you get the best results unless you use fresh stuff.
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That may have been the reason for my friends low yield. Half of the Limo was from a previous extraction and my friend reused the limo for all 5 pulls as well.

I guess its time for my friend to to call up GreenTerpene, the only costly part of the tek.
 
Dorge said:
after swim cleaned twice with mek the result is still a brown stick resin.
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Did he break it up in the MEK and stir it up real good? It must be agitated and broken up with a knife or something to clean it. Did the MEK turn brown?
 
yes swim did, it got lighter actually and the mek did turn brown. it was a really sticky mess,swim thinks there is left over limo in it.
 
The problem with this tek is that you are extracting from a big dough ball of squdgy cactus. (cacti and water = cacti dough)



This makes it difficult for the solvent to extract well as it won't make much contact with all the cactus dough unless you want to be kneading cactus dough and d-limonene. Far to smell & messy!



69Ron my suggestion is that you allow the dough to dry before extracting. I'm assuming this will work, what do you think?
 
your making a resin... resins do not dry very well honestly. the fats and oils need to be fully gone for that to occur.
Swims real concern is that what swim has now tastes of MEK, and swim is concerned with eating it.
 
Dorge said:
yes swim did, it got lighter actually and the mek did turn brown. it was a really sticky mess,swim thinks there is left over limo in it.
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Sounds like you had a lot of impurities in your pull. If the MEK turned brown its cleaning it. My friend cleaned his 3 times with the MEK. I would recommend a few more washes. Put the beaker in freezer with the MEK and alks before siphoning off dirty MEK.

On the thread I made with the pics; in the cleaning stage there are a few pics of the alkaloid mix in the clean MEK then the next pick is brown MEK with a tan powder at the bottom, That is the 1st cleaning after mixing with a knife and breaking up the resiny alkaloid mix.


Dorge said:
and after 5 hours it still tastes like mek alittle...
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After cleaning a few more times put it on a plate in front of a fan over night. It'll all evap out.


Dorge said:
your making a resin... resins do not dry very well honestly. the fats and oils need to be fully gone for that to occur.
Swims real concern is that what swim has now tastes of MEK, and swim is concerned with eating it.
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After sufficient cleaning it will not be resiny any more. It'll be a semi waxy powder with no smell of MEK. At least it should be 😉
 
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