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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)

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Touche Guevara said:
digglover: Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil) - Eco friendly extraction teks - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus


"The other reason this tech is so high yielding is because calcium hydroxide destroys the mucilage. The cactus has horribly slimy mucilage which helps prevent the extraction of mescaline. The mucilage acts like glue preventing the solvents from getting to the mescaline. Because the calcium hydroxide reacts with and breaks down the mucilage, the base and non-polar solvent are both allowed better access to the mescaline."
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That was a great post and answered a lot of my questions! Thanks for the find.
 
Two questions:

1. if some vinegar is left in the d-limo, is this going to be bad? Would SWIM have to add more (edit)calcium hydroxide to the mixture? HMMM.

2. How Should SWIM dispose of D-limo safely? Toilet? Grass? What do ya'll do?

Thanks,

Damiana
 
Yes I mean calcium hydroxide.

There is a small amount of vinegar that is always left in the limonene that SWIM can't get out.
 
Okay, how does one dispose of the D-limo though?

I found this online:

DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS
Waste Handling & Disposal Method: Dispose of in accordance with Federal, State and Local environmental regulations. In most cases land fill or incineration would apply. There are no uniform EC regulations for the disposal of chemicals or residues. Chemical residues generally are applied as “special waste.” We recommend that you contact either the authorities in charge or approved waste companies which will advise you on how to dispose of special waste. Do not allow to enter drinking water supplier, waste water or soil without municipal authorization.
 
I recommend cleaning your toilet, then for good measure, dump some in the tank.
You bathroom will smell real fresh.
Just don't dump it in your Koi pond...😉
 
I was wondering if there is any advantage to actually drying the Lime Cactus Mix?

I almost think i remember reading a thread, maybe even this one-- but it is long-- whereby the presence of a little moisture was favored for some reason.
Maybe it helps to free up the alkaloids.

It seems it varies with these dry/semi-dry teks.

Maybe the ones with Sodium Carbonate are more appropriate for drying.
Especially when pulling with Limonene?

Thanks for your consideration...
 
SWIM came to the conclusion that it would be better not to dry out the mix, just cause the lime is so fine that it would pass through filters, require more acid to neutralize, and possibly contaminate the final product with the byproduct of its reaction with the vinegar.
 
obliguhl said:
I was wondering if there is any advantage to actually drying the Lime Cactus Mix?
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I think the reason is, that mescaline is soluble in water.
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There would be one advantage.

Drying the cactus/lime mass should make it choppable and even to where it could be powderized in a coffee grinder.

This powder would make for much more thorough/easy pulling. For instance, if one had a magnetic stirrer the powder could be stirred throughout the solvent on a continuous stir for a few to even several hours, stirring better than any human can.

Even without a stir plate, one could use a stir rod or chop stick or whatever to stir, and it would still be much easier/quicker to reach a point of thoroughness, and satisfaction that one got everything from the mass. Maybe even just shake it around in some suitable container instead of stirring.

This works very well with mhrb. Personally, not sure about cactus....but it seems that if the drying process itself did not pose a problem, then the drying and powderizing would be advantageous.
 
Other than maybe using a little more Limonene, and maybe having some dust to contend with, it seems the only drawback would be if for some reason a little bit of water somehow helps facilitate the extraction. In the case of this Tek, I thought I had remembered reading that Mescaline was soluble in water; would this make the transfer to the Limonene somehow more effective? Or maybe there is no problem going straight from dry, basified powdered cactus/lime to Limonene...
 
wouldn't re dried cactus powder soak up and lock in alot more limo than usual?
the powder already soaks about 100ml limo that you cant get back out easily when the cactus powder
already has 300ml water in it.

just a thought8)

peace
 
That's a great point, especially considering how much limonene disappeared when the smart aleck tried to out-smart the tek and use the blender to whip things up. At that point it took an additional 300ml+ just to free it all (limonene) up again.
 
What kind of average yields should SWIM expect from this tek? SWIM just finished his two semi-cold MEK washes, and ended up with about 2.3g of material from 75g of FV's Peruvian Torch, which he believes works out to 3.1% of the mass of the starting material. That's pretty impressive, and he's wondering if maybe some contaminants slipped through his washes. Maybe he's just in shock. Does this look about right?


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SWIM did three extractions with the limonene, and extracted each limonene pull three times. SWIM intends to pull at least once more from the starting material, since he got quite a bit of stuff from the third extraction. He hasn't had a chance to conduct any in vivo experimentation yet :p
 
damiana said:
That looks about right. That is very impressive indeed, 3% is rare but not unheard of. Did SWIY use the same d-limo?
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Yes indeed. SWIM figured that, by recycling the limonene that was already saturated in Mescaline freebase, he might increase his yields. SWIM was just a bit confused since an alcohol extraction of the resin from 25g yielded an experience that he might expect from 100-200mg of mescaline. Perhaps isopropyl alcohol extractions just don't work as well as Ca(OH)2/Limonene reactive extractions.

On another note, SWIM was also a bit confused that people recommended adding dilute HCl to d-Limonene to form the Mescaline HCl salt. Wouldn't the dilute HCl react with the limo to form a halohydrin? SWIM doesn't know anything about the toxicity of that compound, but he's pretty sure that one would be formed, and that it would end up mixed in with the product.

Will report back once material has been bioassayed :D
 
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