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could someone help me I have 5 jars in my fridge and so far one has a lot of crystals and the rest have barely any. They've been in the freezer for about 2 days. Why are there so little crystals? Should I just keep them in the freezer for a while? Btw I'm doing Noman's STB tek
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Here is my Tek in the least amount of words for a quick and easy read, along with some questions.
Feed back from the experienced would be greatly appreciated.
Using 224g MHRB Powder
ONE Free Alkaloids
224g Lye
1 liter H20
pH 13.5+
Add to MHRB
1g:1g:15ml ratio
Agitate for 2+ hrs
TWO Extraction
125ml Naphtha VM&P
Agitate 30 min, avoid emulsion
Separatory Funnel releasing pressure
Pull 3 or 4x
Last pull shake vigorously, keep separate.
THREE Purify and Defat
Kangen pH 2.5
Shake 15 min
Separatory Funnel
Kangen Water: http://www.thewatertruth.com/go/
I have access to this machine. Is this ok? Or does vinegar have properties needed?
Kangen has a pH range 2.5 - 9.5
I don't even know if this is necessary, but it's only 15 min
FOUR Washing
5% Sodium Carbonate H20 solution
pH 8.5
Agitate 15 min
Separatory Funnel releasing pressure
Again, I don't even know if this is necessary, but it's only 15 min
FIVE Freeze Prep
Freeze 12+ hrs
Remove crystals and quick dry on ice bed
Reduce solvent 50%
Freeze again
Collect crystals, quick dry
Slow air dry the remains
Scrape crystals
SIX Recrystallize
Double boil setup - Pirax dish and shot glass
heat Naphtha in shot glass
20ml Nap per 1g Love
Add Love to hot Nap
Dissolve
Cool to room temp, fridge for 2 hrs, then freezer.
Here I will add other freezer prepped crystals to help the seeding process to form 1 big crystal of Love.
Remove and quick dry crystal
In theory this should work.
How is my Tek?
Any suggestions?
Are step 3 or 4 necessary?
What about the Kangen Water?
I Thank You All in Advance!
Feed back from the experienced would be greatly appreciated.
Using 224g MHRB Powder
ONE Free Alkaloids
224g Lye
1 liter H20
pH 13.5+
Add to MHRB
1g:1g:15ml ratio
Agitate for 2+ hrs
TWO Extraction
125ml Naphtha VM&P
Agitate 30 min, avoid emulsion
Separatory Funnel releasing pressure
Pull 3 or 4x
Last pull shake vigorously, keep separate.
THREE Purify and Defat
Kangen pH 2.5
Shake 15 min
Separatory Funnel
Kangen Water: http://www.thewatertruth.com/go/
I have access to this machine. Is this ok? Or does vinegar have properties needed?
Kangen has a pH range 2.5 - 9.5
I don't even know if this is necessary, but it's only 15 min
FOUR Washing
5% Sodium Carbonate H20 solution
pH 8.5
Agitate 15 min
Separatory Funnel releasing pressure
Again, I don't even know if this is necessary, but it's only 15 min
FIVE Freeze Prep
Freeze 12+ hrs
Remove crystals and quick dry on ice bed
Reduce solvent 50%
Freeze again
Collect crystals, quick dry
Slow air dry the remains
Scrape crystals
SIX Recrystallize
Double boil setup - Pirax dish and shot glass
heat Naphtha in shot glass
20ml Nap per 1g Love
Add Love to hot Nap
Dissolve
Cool to room temp, fridge for 2 hrs, then freezer.
Here I will add other freezer prepped crystals to help the seeding process to form 1 big crystal of Love.
Remove and quick dry crystal
In theory this should work.
How is my Tek?
Any suggestions?
Are step 3 or 4 necessary?
What about the Kangen Water?
I Thank You All in Advance!
After doing my homework on mhrb extractions for the past few months
and after reading virtually everything on the internet i could find about home extractions i decided that the nomans tek seemed to be the most practical and efficient method. Im new to this and the only person i know personally with any dmt experience so other then this forum i have nobody to consult.. what it comes down to is that the tek just seems too basic compared to other teks for how highly people talk about the noman tek.. i just want to know if im missing something or if.there are some tips from anyone who has tried this tek. Or just a step thats been changed or improved on from the original "dmt for.the masses". I am not at all talking down on the nomans tek or questioning it whatsoever it just seems that if the extraction was that easy the streets would be flooded with dmt instead of it being as uncommon as it is.. any tips at all would be greatly appreciated.
and after reading virtually everything on the internet i could find about home extractions i decided that the nomans tek seemed to be the most practical and efficient method. Im new to this and the only person i know personally with any dmt experience so other then this forum i have nobody to consult.. what it comes down to is that the tek just seems too basic compared to other teks for how highly people talk about the noman tek.. i just want to know if im missing something or if.there are some tips from anyone who has tried this tek. Or just a step thats been changed or improved on from the original "dmt for.the masses". I am not at all talking down on the nomans tek or questioning it whatsoever it just seems that if the extraction was that easy the streets would be flooded with dmt instead of it being as uncommon as it is.. any tips at all would be greatly appreciated.
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this thread:
is the most helpful post i've ever seen.
is the most helpful post i've ever seen.
Hello again fellow nexians. I'm on my 3rd extraction now after my second was basically a disaster and yielded almost nothing from 50g of rootbark. I followed noman's tek to a T and so my first extraction wasnt all too bad, enough for a couple lifts off into hyperspace but now im stumped. My third extract is doing the same as my second. I let my jars evaporate a little so they saturate then freeze precip. Now after about 3-5 days only one jar is starting to produce tiny little crystals all along the jar. Would you say it is my rootbark maybe? It is of the mexican variety. I think I will go Brazilian next time from the same source. Does it ever take about a week to see crystals for any of you? I just don't see what im doing wrong :/ I yielded basically nothing from 50g on my second attempt. But my first from the same batch was decent (for me atleast)
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Unless your freezer is broken you should see crystals form overnight. Both extractions were from the same rootbark source? If one went well then I don't see why the others wouldn't (so I don't see how it could be your bark unless something happened to it in between the extractions). Double check your process.
Hey everyone.
I'm preparing for my first extraction (probably in the coming week), and I thought I'd ask a few questions regarding the materials used in the extraction. For my first attempt, I figured I'd go with a really basic tek, and chose the Lazyman's tek (STB). If that works out fine, I'm probably going to try to get a more pure product using Vovin's tek.
The last few weeks I've been gathering all my resources for my first extraction (distilled water, NaOH, naphtha, electronic pH meter, 2 500ml erlenmeyer flasks, MHRB) , but I still had a couple questions.
1) I see a lot of people using mason jars, not only for the freeze precipitation step, but also earlier on for the extraction itself. I picked up my erlenmeyers since they seemed ideal for a seperation. I forgot that you are supposed to gently tumble the container over to get the alkaloids to settle in the naphtha. Obviously the erlenmeyer has no lid, and working with corrosive chemicals I'm very hesitant to improvise with this. Can I simply gently swirl the erlenmeyer flask around for a while and get the contents to mix right, or should I use something to stir the contents? Or should I just be better off using a mason jar with a lid?
2) The one thing I have yet to acquire is something to do my pulls with. I was thinking of a sort of dosing syringe, but I can't seem to find any in local hardware stores (I'm trying to purchase as many of these things locally so that I don't have to wait for orders on the internet, pay for shipping and all that). I know a lot of people use turkey basters, but I've read that it isn't really all that ideal to work with. I take it the material needs to be at least HDPE plastic or (ideally) glass? Any suggestions on what I could locally obtain in a hardware store that is useful and safe?
In the long run I am aiming to get a good seperatory funnel.
I'm preparing for my first extraction (probably in the coming week), and I thought I'd ask a few questions regarding the materials used in the extraction. For my first attempt, I figured I'd go with a really basic tek, and chose the Lazyman's tek (STB). If that works out fine, I'm probably going to try to get a more pure product using Vovin's tek.
The last few weeks I've been gathering all my resources for my first extraction (distilled water, NaOH, naphtha, electronic pH meter, 2 500ml erlenmeyer flasks, MHRB) , but I still had a couple questions.
1) I see a lot of people using mason jars, not only for the freeze precipitation step, but also earlier on for the extraction itself. I picked up my erlenmeyers since they seemed ideal for a seperation. I forgot that you are supposed to gently tumble the container over to get the alkaloids to settle in the naphtha. Obviously the erlenmeyer has no lid, and working with corrosive chemicals I'm very hesitant to improvise with this. Can I simply gently swirl the erlenmeyer flask around for a while and get the contents to mix right, or should I use something to stir the contents? Or should I just be better off using a mason jar with a lid?
2) The one thing I have yet to acquire is something to do my pulls with. I was thinking of a sort of dosing syringe, but I can't seem to find any in local hardware stores (I'm trying to purchase as many of these things locally so that I don't have to wait for orders on the internet, pay for shipping and all that). I know a lot of people use turkey basters, but I've read that it isn't really all that ideal to work with. I take it the material needs to be at least HDPE plastic or (ideally) glass? Any suggestions on what I could locally obtain in a hardware store that is useful and safe?
In the long run I am aiming to get a good seperatory funnel.
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1.You need something with a lid....you will need to shake/roll to get the Nap to 'touch' all of the mix...I use a 1l glass drinks bottle..
2. standard turkey baster works just fine..supermarket for a couple of bucks. No need to make it too difficult for yourself
Here's my kit list pic
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Thanks for the very quick and useful replies. Glad to see I don't need to specially order any lab materials straight away, though I am still thinking of going for the seperatory funnel when I'm more at home with the extraction process.
I'm sure these questions have been asked a lot before, but the search function didn't come up with many relevant results, so I figured I'd post in here as opposed to making a new topic for it.
Much appreciated, I'll make sure to post a report of my upcoming extraction
I'm sure these questions have been asked a lot before, but the search function didn't come up with many relevant results, so I figured I'd post in here as opposed to making a new topic for it.
Much appreciated, I'll make sure to post a report of my upcoming extraction
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ॐ said:
Really no need to get specialist gear..
Thats the beauty of kitchen chemistry...I managed to get all the necessary bits and bobs in a few hours of wandering around town..Charity shops are especially useful and cheap...and $ stores...big pickle jars are also useful.8)
Alright, I am going to attempt my first extraction using the STB Lazyman's tek in a few hours.
Could anyone verify if these proportions are correct? I've seen a lot of people posting extraction reports and failing due to too much/too little naphtha/lye. Especially since the Lazyman's tek is such a crude process, I want to make absolutely sure I get this right. In any case, I have an electronic pH meter, so I don't think I can really mess up the water/lye proportions.
My materials:
110g MHRB (powdered) (400-500g used in the original tek)
50 ml liquid NaOH (calculated as 200mg / 4)
500ml distilled water (calculated as 2L / 4)
50+ml naphtha (calculated as 250+ml / 4)
I am dropping the potato masher step since my bark is already powdered.
Does this seem about right, or does anyone think these measurements are a bit off?
Could anyone verify if these proportions are correct? I've seen a lot of people posting extraction reports and failing due to too much/too little naphtha/lye. Especially since the Lazyman's tek is such a crude process, I want to make absolutely sure I get this right. In any case, I have an electronic pH meter, so I don't think I can really mess up the water/lye proportions.
My materials:
110g MHRB (powdered) (400-500g used in the original tek)
50 ml liquid NaOH (calculated as 200mg / 4)
500ml distilled water (calculated as 2L / 4)
50+ml naphtha (calculated as 250+ml / 4)
I am dropping the potato masher step since my bark is already powdered.
Does this seem about right, or does anyone think these measurements are a bit off?
cyb said:
Thanks for the reply. I divided my materials into two mason jars, I'm shaking them vigorously over the course of half an hour. Material looks quite broken up already but I'm letting them sit for at least 15 more minutes before I add the naphtha.
Edit: Just pulled my naphtha from the mason jars after another 30 mins of tumbling them over as much as possible. Naphtha looks 100% clear, I hope everything went right :|
Off to the freezer!
Hi there, SWIM told me:"
i wanna start my first extraction but im having some language problems, since english is not my mother tongue. I wanna start with Noman Tek.
Do i get it right that basically all you have to do is get the dmt into the naptha and then let the naptha disappear?
Im still a bit confused about "evaporating" and "freeze precip" and the coffee filter in the noman tek.
Do i HAVE TO put my naptha into the freezer or could i also just put the dish somewhere in my home and let it evaporate freely?
In the tek it says in Step 7. " Leave the last NP extraction in the jar for a day or two"
What does NP stand for? Naptha?
Step 8: "Go to bed. You should have a collection of snow globes waiting for you in the morning."
Snow globes means DMT crystals, right?
What will it be like in the freezer? A layer of naptha and crystals at the bottom?
Im confused about Step 9. It says "Pour each jar of naptha out through a coffee filter."
What about the crystals, will they stay at the bottom of the jar or will they stick in the coffee filter? If in the coffee filter it seems so hard to me to get the dmt out of it.
Now some more basic questions which still confused me.
A "pull" just means to suck up the naptha with a turkey baster for example and then put that naptha into a different container, correct?
Ok enoguh about DMT and next question about LSA.
Ive read the PanoraMIX HBWR Extraction method and it says "Do a naptha wash, so add napta until 5cm above the seeds.->Repeat step"
What does the "wash" exactly mean. I tried to search around with google but it all still confused me. Wash means to seperate something from a substance by adding another substance if i get it correctly.
But in this LSA Tek what do i do? Add Naptha, pull it off, add naptha again? Do i have to shake it or something?
The naptha just removes something bad from the seeds? It seems to be different than the DMT Tek because it says "discard the naptha" later.
The real deal is done with the IPA correct? So the IPA for LSA is like the Naptha for DMT, correct?"
Thanks
i wanna start my first extraction but im having some language problems, since english is not my mother tongue. I wanna start with Noman Tek.
Do i get it right that basically all you have to do is get the dmt into the naptha and then let the naptha disappear?
Im still a bit confused about "evaporating" and "freeze precip" and the coffee filter in the noman tek.
Do i HAVE TO put my naptha into the freezer or could i also just put the dish somewhere in my home and let it evaporate freely?
In the tek it says in Step 7. " Leave the last NP extraction in the jar for a day or two"
What does NP stand for? Naptha?
Step 8: "Go to bed. You should have a collection of snow globes waiting for you in the morning."
Snow globes means DMT crystals, right?
What will it be like in the freezer? A layer of naptha and crystals at the bottom?
Im confused about Step 9. It says "Pour each jar of naptha out through a coffee filter."
What about the crystals, will they stay at the bottom of the jar or will they stick in the coffee filter? If in the coffee filter it seems so hard to me to get the dmt out of it.
Now some more basic questions which still confused me.
A "pull" just means to suck up the naptha with a turkey baster for example and then put that naptha into a different container, correct?
Ok enoguh about DMT and next question about LSA.
Ive read the PanoraMIX HBWR Extraction method and it says "Do a naptha wash, so add napta until 5cm above the seeds.->Repeat step"
What does the "wash" exactly mean. I tried to search around with google but it all still confused me. Wash means to seperate something from a substance by adding another substance if i get it correctly.
But in this LSA Tek what do i do? Add Naptha, pull it off, add naptha again? Do i have to shake it or something?
The naptha just removes something bad from the seeds? It seems to be different than the DMT Tek because it says "discard the naptha" later.
The real deal is done with the IPA correct? So the IPA for LSA is like the Naptha for DMT, correct?"
Thanks
onethousandk
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No experience with LSA so I can't help you there.
Correct.
You can choose between a freeze precip or an evaporation. Either one separates the DMT from the naptha which is what you want. Many people will freeze precip first to get nice white crystals and then evap to get the rest. Don't ever just throw out your naptha.
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You will have crystals stuck to the sides of the glass as well as hopefully a nice fluffy layer at the bottom.
The coffee filter is because even though you will have many crystals stuck to the sides of the glass, you will also have some free floating at the bottom. After a freeze precip, you'll want to empty the naptha into your evaporation dish, using the filter to catch as many crystals as you can. You will lose a little bit to the fibers of the filter, but not much.
Correct.
lerpoxel said:
Correct.
lerpoxel said:
You can choose between a freeze precip or an evaporation. Either one separates the DMT from the naptha which is what you want. Many people will freeze precip first to get nice white crystals and then evap to get the rest. Don't ever just throw out your naptha.
lerpoxel said:
Correct
lerpoxel said:
You will have crystals stuck to the sides of the glass as well as hopefully a nice fluffy layer at the bottom.
lerpoxel said:
The coffee filter is because even though you will have many crystals stuck to the sides of the glass, you will also have some free floating at the bottom. After a freeze precip, you'll want to empty the naptha into your evaporation dish, using the filter to catch as many crystals as you can. You will lose a little bit to the fibers of the filter, but not much.
lerpoxel said:
Correct.
