official extraction help thread

[psilocybin]

Any questions or problems you may run into during an extraction can be asked to get other members input in this thread.

 

[eddyjmthewll]

thanks JefFlux
I don't have a cool fan, but i'll try with the baking tray... I've got 150ml of solvent, so i'd better try and speed up the process

what would be the problem with a hot air fan? oxidation of DMT? Is that loss of electrons? Why would that be a problem?

 

[JefFlux]

not sure exactly...but the presence of heat and solvents does not seem like a good idea !
Patience may be the key here, usually evaps overnight if its shallow enough

 

[eddyjmthewll]

Alright i've left it on a baking tray and it has almost all evaporated. basically no residue left.

Also I have a doubt i feel it has probably been asked already but i couldn't find answers: the rest of the crystals on the dish are still there drying out, and they seem actually pretty dry but i move them around with a fork sometimes and they still feel a bit soft and also still smell of naphta. I haven't put any fan blowing on them since I wanted to avoid oxidation but do you reckon the smell will go away if it's not gone away after 30 hours?

 

[inaniel]

Okay! So i have another noob question. I was able to separate the layers I posted about earlier, and threw the first three pulls in the freezer. An issue I've had at my new (very old) apt that I haven't had elsewhere: I don't think my POS freezer gets cold enough, and i'm left with a lot of naptha. I had it sitting in there for a full 24 hours and about 3/4ths of a second day, and was left with a lot of naptha still. There was what looked like a ton of DMT floating in the naptha.

I just moved in and didn't have any container to transfer this to (stupid mistake), so i grabbed the glass I used for my extraction (
I pull the naptha 'crudely' to get it all out of the extraction vessel into a long neck glass to more accurately pull). But there was still some base soup at the bottom. Now I have this naptha with base soup and crystals suspended inbetween. Is my only resort to carefully pull the naptha? I have a small glass baster which always leaves a few CM of naptha on the base soup which i'm unable to pull without contamination.

 

[inaniel]

Could I start the process over? Throw this all back in my base soup and do another a/b?

 

[melotikaci]

Okay! So i have another noob question. I was able to separate the layers I posted about earlier, and threw the first three pulls in the freezer. An issue I've had at my new (very old) apt that I haven't had elsewhere: I don't think my POS freezer gets cold enough, and i'm left with a lot of naptha. I had it sitting in there for a full 24 hours and about 3/4ths of a second day, and was left with a lot of naptha still. There was what looked like a ton of DMT floating in the naptha.

What do you mean by "lot of naphtha was left"?
Did you expect to evaporate naphtha in a freezer? That would take weeks, especially with the glass you are using.

After you take the dish out of freezer here's what you should do:
1. Remove naphtha from the glass and put it back into basic solution asap, if you take too long dmt will redesolve in it on room temps. (use syringe or big pipette to avoid loosing crystals).
2. Put the glass with crystals back into the freezer or in a fridge upside down(crystals should be attached to glass surface after you remove naphtha) for few hours to let it dry.

P.S. next time better use wider dish. it may be hard to scrape off the crystals from that.

 

[inaniel]

Okay! So i have another noob question. I was able to separate the layers I posted about earlier, and threw the first three pulls in the freezer. An issue I've had at my new (very old) apt that I haven't had elsewhere: I don't think my POS freezer gets cold enough, and i'm left with a lot of naptha. I had it sitting in there for a full 24 hours and about 3/4ths of a second day, and was left with a lot of naptha still. There was what looked like a ton of DMT floating in the naptha.

What do you mean by "lot of naphtha was left"?
Did you expect to evaporate naphtha in a freezer? That would take weeks, especially with the glass you are using.

After you take the dish out of freezer here's what you should do:
1. Remove naphtha from the glass and put it back into basic solution asap, if you take too long dmt will redesolve in it on room temps. (use syringe or big pipette to avoid loosing crystals).
2. Put the glass with crystals back into the freezer or in a fridge upside down(crystals should be attached to glass surface after you remove naphtha) for few hours to let it dry.

P.S. next time better use wider dish. it may be hard to scrape off the crystals from that.

Oh yeah I didn't place it in that glass in the freezer, I have a glass baking dish for that. I had a pretty good yield already stuck to the baking dish, but had a lot more floaters than usual in the remaining naphtha. With my previous extractions and I've never run into the issue with floaters, or excess naphtha, as I had a new stand alone freezes that worked amazingly well. Thanks

 

[melotikaci]

Oh yeah I didn't place it in that glass in the freezer, I have a glass baking dish for that. I had a pretty good yield already stuck to the baking dish, but had a lot more floaters than usual in the remaining naphtha. With my previous extractions and I've never run into the issue with floaters, or excess naphtha, as I had a new stand alone freezes that worked amazingly well. Thanks

From my experience one of the reason of floaters could be the recycled naphtha(saved from previous pulls). So if that's a problem for you try using new uncontaminated naphtha instead.

 

[inaniel]

Oh yeah I didn't place it in that glass in the freezer, I have a glass baking dish for that. I had a pretty good yield already stuck to the baking dish, but had a lot more floaters than usual in the remaining naphtha. With my previous extractions and I've never run into the issue with floaters, or excess naphtha, as I had a new stand alone freezes that worked amazingly well. Thanks

From my experience one of the reason of floaters could be the recycled naphtha(saved from previous pulls). So if that's a problem for you try using new uncontaminated naphtha instead.

Ah, interesting. I did mix in some older naptha with new naptha this time around. I wanted to a) not waste the old naptha and b) see if any dmt was still there. I recall reading a thread where someone reportedly used the same naptha for heaps of pulls and continuously had good yields. thanks for the help.

 

[Northerner]

I've been thinking about the rue extraction with the seeds in cloth...

Then thinking about the process of lyesing the cell via pressure cooking to release the DMT from plant matter in acidic water and then basing...

Then it could also be logical that if I pressure cooked the bark in cloth and squeezed all out of it that I could, based it, I could then perform a solvent extraction on fibreless solution?

What am I missing? Is the destructive nature of the base on the plant matter at all important in the extraction of DMT?

 

[downwardsfromzero]

That's a perfectly reasonable idea. The concept is essentially that of a tea bag, regardless of the plant matter involved. If you try the pressure cooking I'd suggest to make the water only slightly acidic as very low pH will destroy the cellulose that makes up your 'tea bag'.

 

[Northerner]

Thanks dfz, I'll take it easy on the vinegar... maybe even skip it.

I'll try the rue first this weekend I think, see how I feel about the PC process.

 

[JefFlux]

I'm often surprised at how easily the dmt re-crystalises.

Dissolved 750mg into a 20-30 ml of Vodka and added 500mg of powdered Caapi bark and after checking it 24 hours later, noticed these beautiful x-tals sitting on top of the mix;

 

[Kanela]

Hello!

I have a question about salting... As wondering around forum i found out you can salt your solution for better yields (Cybs' Hybrid ATB Salt Tek, Max Ion Tek). I am a beginner as you can see from my posts, and right now i am doing BLAB tek (changa version, using d-limonene, sodium carbonate and IPA wash) is it ok to adopt salting to this tek? Is it necessary to add salt? Last time i was doing extraction with my "teacher" BLAB tek yielded 2,5% from 1kg of MHRB, great yield so maybe is not needed to salt...? What do you Nexians think/know about?

Thank You!

 

[BloomTheShroom]

Hello everyone. This is my first official post. I had a few simple questions.
I'm choosing a poor mans tek, method anyway with alterations and was hoping some people could answer a few questions I wasn't sure about.

I will be doing my extraction in this order
-Mix 100g MHRB with excess sodium carbonate, add water, make a paste
-Spread on glass pan, let dry
-Add 185 ML 95% Ethanol, let sit for 1 hour, occasionally shaking/stirring
-Filter out onto dish through what? ******* Coffee filters work good? *****
-Do two more pulls. Combine liquid and let evaporate slow
-Mix reddish/brown sludge into warm vinegar. ***** How much vinegar should be used? ****** How long do I let it sit in the vinegar, or do I filter it as soon as it dissolves into the vinegar?*******
-After mixing, filter it. Mix with excess sodium carbonate, spread on a plate, let it dry.
-When dry, using ***** Ice cold acetone I'll dissolve the paste into it and filter then evaporate again, but **** Do I use ice cold acetone? How long do I let it sit in acetone, or do I once more, filter immediately when it dissolves in the acetone? ***

I believe I was pretty specific in all my details and I'm confident in this route of extraction, just wanted a few insights on basically a few things.. Thanks!
*EDIT*-Forgot to mention, where there are asterisks is where I have a question, thank you!

 

[FrizzleFried]

Quick question about mini ab. Do you need to use an NPS for the acid wash, or can I just drop the freebase straight into my acid?

 

[Sakkadelic]

Quick question about mini ab. Do you need to use an NPS for the acid wash, or can I just drop the freebase straight into my acid?

yes you can, put the freebase in the container and add the acidic solution while stirring/swirling until all the freebase dissolves then proceed normally

 

[Ananda7519]

I thought my first extraction failed because of adding water lowering the PH. I had saved the used solvent in a jar in my big freezer where it has been for a few days. I pulled it out just now and saw dmt crystals all over the inside. I poured out the solvent and fished out all I could with a long tea spoon and put them on a glass plate to dry.
I heated up some 90ml Naptha to 110f in a hot water bath and poured it in put the lid and shook vigorously a few times until the glass looked clean and poured all the solvent into a large baking dish. I am assuming in a day or so to have some goop evaped out. I have it 90 percent covered with plastic wrap sitting on the back porch.

Question: The naphtha is yellow and very cloudy in its chilled state from the freezer. When it is all evaped down I am assuming I will have a bunch of other plant material present besides the dmt. Do I need to re/X it or can I just smoke the beige goop?

 

[BloomTheShroom]

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[burnt]

I thought my first extraction failed because of adding water lowering the PH. I had saved the used solvent in a jar in my big freezer where it has been for a few days. I pulled it out just now and saw dmt crystals all over the inside. I poured out the solvent and fished out all I could with a long tea spoon and put them on a glass plate to dry.
I heated up some 90ml Naptha to 110f in a hot water bath and poured it in put the lid and shook vigorously a few times until the glass looked clean and poured all the solvent into a large baking dish. I am assuming in a day or so to have some goop evaped out. I have it 90 percent covered with plastic wrap sitting on the back porch.

Question: The naphtha is yellow and very cloudy in its chilled state from the freezer. When it is all evaped down I am assuming I will have a bunch of other plant material present besides the dmt. Do I need to re/X it or can I just smoke the beige goop?

Never hurts to recrystallize materials like this. if it evaporates down to yellow goo it will still contain actives just not as pure. What was starting plant material?

You want to avoid basic water ending up in final product as that is corrosive.
hope this information is useful.