Orange goo w/ Nomans Tek

[LoccdatDMT]

I am now on my 4th pull and so far every pull has been nothing but orange goo. why is this happening? I have never had this problem before. Im using the correct ratio as well 1g bark 1g lye and a little bit less tan 15ml water. i have the powdered version so i added 1.5x more water. The solution is a little bit watery but not too bad. I dident get any of the bark in the solution as well when taking off the top layer of bestine. The bark is from a reputable site i usually get it from and have never had this happen! i know i added about 5-10g more lye to get all the bark but would that really make a difference? im freezing for about 36hours in my deep freezer but im just not getting the results i usually get and im really perplexed.

any thoughts??

 

[LoccdatDMT]

foprgot to mention im using about 95g of bark with little results......the first pull was 25mg of a little bit of white.

 

[zombicyckel]

DONT TAKE MY ADVICE

my first guess would be to place the goo in a shotglass with warm heptane. lets the oils get to the bottom. Then sip the clear layer out and let it evaporate. then re x again. just a shot in a dark.

Or maybe it needs to be converted into dmt again, I dont know


Wait for second opionion!

 

[LoccdatDMT]

Thanks for the reply i know i was looking at that in the FAQ but i was wondering wht i did wrong??? Whats the reason for it doing this?

 

[Icon]

Not sure where the orange goo comes from but I get it too doing the q21q21 tek with almost completely different ingredients. Usually I get a full snowglobe of white with a little blotch of orange goo. But I never complain, the goo is extremely psychoactive! My first breakthrough ever was on it. Anyone else who's used some bud to smear up a dose of the goo has had huge revelations.

Sorry you're not getting more out of the extracts though, weird :?

 

[LoccdatDMT]

I know right its weird. haha i shouldve dried it and smoked it but i threw it away!

 

[Macavity224]

I'm completely with you...I have a 1:1 ration of lye/naptha/mimosa (I don't even remember ho much anymore, I think 50g's. I've also done 3 or 4 pulls, except my freeze precips only last about 10 hours...if you're getting no results from 36 hours, I'm way behind you. All I end up getting is some brown crap at the bottom of the collection dish after I dump the naptha, no "snowglobes." I've also followed the Noman's tek word for word.

In response to that other poster, I don't even think I can scrape the goop up to try to do a re-x. Everytime I try to get it out of the plate with a knife, it just kind of falls apart, and I get aggravated about 30 seconds into it, so I just stop.

Both me and the OP would greatly appreciate some advice here, it seems we're both not doing so great with this whole extraction thing.

OP: Does your collection plate look something like this?

 

[LoccdatDMT]

yep im getting the same thing but my orange goop is in in fat blobbs!(i think because im using 95g) i have no fucking clue what causes this and im right there with you im also getting extremely aggravated. what kind of solvent do you use? im using bestine.

 

[Ancotar]

Hello!

Try not to be too frustrated as experiences such as this will help you to refine your technique for future extractions!

I've had this symptom before, but my goop was of a tan color in nature. I evapped, scraped, and collected and was left with a fine tan powder. When I tried vaping, it was some of the best extract I have tried to date!

You mentioned you are using bestine. I've heard of people having issues from time to time with this. Is naphtha available in your area?

 

[LoccdatDMT]

Unfortunately they took it off of the market last month idk why. I have also heard a lot of problems with bestine but ive extracted at least 3 grams in all using bestine it looked pretty close to cocaine with no re x thats why i liked that solvent so much. I have never smoked the tan gunk is it worth it if u dry it out?

 

[Hesse1990]

Hello!

Try not to be too frustrated as experiences such as this will help you to refine your technique for future extractions!

I've had this symptom before, but my goop was of a tan color in nature. I evapped, scraped, and collected and was left with a fine tan powder. When I tried vaping, it was some of the best extract I have tried to date!

You mentioned you are using bestine. I've heard of people having issues from time to time with this. Is naphtha available in your area?

Hi!

Long term lurker, first poster, but I've made a couple attempts at an extraction (all of them unsuccessful), with the same problem. However, there's no way to actually scrape the goo off the bottom of the jar I use because it all just flakes and falls apart...i think it might just be residue from the mimosa mixture. But I'm going to keep this thread bookmarked, i'd like to see if anyone can find a solution to this problem.

Also, on a side note I use naptha as a solvent.

 

[endlessness]

Hey guys,

Im not sure exactly why youre getting the orange stuff. I can think of two possibilities:

1- Your solvent has a bit of aromatics mixed in. So for example if its has 1% xylene or something, it would dissolve some plant oils and wouldn't freeze precipitate out well.

2- You got tiny bit (nearly invisible) amounts of the mimosa basic liquid as you did the pulls.

What you can do is try to recrystallize the oil as FAQ says, see if you get something purer. You can also try to evap all the rest of the solvent and see if you're left with anything, and recrystallize that too.

 

[LoccdatDMT]

Thanks endlessness im pretty sure mimosa got in because i think i had an emulsion that went really foggy and i couldent tell if it was an emulsion or just really foggy. haha so this morning i got my 3rd pull and it was just weird. As soon as i put in my solvent and tumbled it for about a minuet it was just straight orange i waited about half a day for it to return to normal but it wouldent. i ended up just throwing it in the freezer and got the really brown/orange results ive never gotten.

BTW does heat have anything to do with this? because im extracting in a really warm area and ive never had this happen till now.

 

[clockworktemple]

honestly think this is sum form of jungle spice probably more likely toulene on that note of aromatic 'endless' as toulene seems to produce the brown/tan oil as apposed to the bright red resin of the xylene. im with endless on the prognosis that ur solvent is not very useful at pulling out spice at least not under the conditions u have it at. may i please sorter nudge the fact that maybe the ph is wrong a lower ph would perhaps stop ur bestine picking up the spice but the oils ok, thats just a thought litmuss or a red cabbage is ur friend right now if u say u followed the tek well then perhaps ur lye or whateva is not quite right maybe u have slightly acidic tap water (very unusual) as the tek i recall ses the tap water was basic. i think noman uses tap water and assumes the tap water to be basic. PH !! is what this screams too me i would suggest dumping alot of salt into ur basic layer just to make sure u said u had an emulsion and that hints ur ph is too low aswell. (u could mix sum strong lye and mix that but the salt is alot safer as it shouldnt destroy any dmt in suspension the lye will) hope this helps :surprised

 

[clockworktemple]

also it never hurts to get a knife and dip it in the substance burn it does it smell like spice ? if it does u probably have a crude form of spice but to adress the do u have black? side of this ... if u dont know u dont have black wtf are u doing exactly? black is the killer and u should never rush ur pulls leave the solvent to stand and then decant a second time seriously holes in ur lungs isnt cool! the solvent may look clear till u leave it for up to 24hrs and then where did the black come from? the answer is suspension. but that said goo doesnt necessarily mean black and yer goo can be incredibly active.

 

[clockworktemple]

1:1:15 is not necessarily the correct ratio too not to spam ur thread, 1:1:15 is what noman suggests should get u there n tbh normally it does but really are u a noob or a scientist are u dealing with chemistry or baking a cake ? not to be demeaning but its a blunt way of putting across the ur a scientist doing chemistry lets get critical argument. really hope u get this all sorted and ur spice be delivered to u allbeit not so gracefully.

 

[endlessness]

There's no way an acidic tap water would make any difference with these amounts of lye, Noman tek lyeamounts are already very very high, even unnecessarily high (but doesn't hurt, just helps breaking emulsions and making sure dmt is soluble in the non polar solvent). You'd have to have concentrated hydrochloric acid for tap water for it to make a difference

Mimosa is it's own pH indicator, when it's jet black, pH = 13-14.

Smell is a very poor indicator because it could have mostly spice smell but still be contaminate with plant oils/basic liquid/whatever else.

Oh and, lye does not destroy any dmt.

It could be the toluene/xylene thing, it could be the droplets of basic liquid, could be a mix of both, or some other third option we're not thinking of. In any case I dont think it will hurt to wash and/or recrystallize (or re-a/b if still doest get clean) the product.

 

[clockworktemple]

didnt know about the jet black thing thats a shred of gold (are u sure mixing ph7-6.5 water with mimosa doesnt make it go black cos i would imagine it does as its a dye and it pretty much does if ur doing an a/b), i know it shouldnt really but what else can go wrong but ph, mention of emulsions ses ph to me. just trying to find the problem. i heard that lye can denature dmt especially if not properly dissolved. dont go on my clockwork chemistry tho it works for me 7 years n ive never had a problem other than getting xylene in my eye which gave me conjunctavitus for a week, wear goggles haha smell is a good indicator imo of whether spice is there to start with thats what i meant. i honestly dont think thats the basic aqueous layer thats just my opinion. but obviously my chemistry is invalid so i shall continue as i have been .... without others. peace

 

[clockworktemple]

try salting out not freezing .... tara

 

[endlessness]

Yeah salting is good. You can re-a/b, so basically after salting you base the acidic alkaloid solution and pull again with a non-polar, that definitely cleans it up.

As for the mimosa ph color thing, yeah im very sure. If you just put in water at ph 6-8 (though the pH will drop to 5 or something due to mimosa's acidity) it stays with a more reddish tone. At ph 9 or so (dont remember, just as an example) stuff starts precipitating (I think not just alkaloids), it becomes greyish, the whole mix gets really thick, but then if you add more lye to ph 13-14 it all dissolves again and become more liquid and jet black.