Outside the body our memories fail us, study.

[armbarsalot]

DMT - out of body - hard to remember..


New research from Karolinska Institutet and Umeå University in Sweden demonstrates for the first time that there is a close relationship between body perception and the ability to remember. For us to be able to store new memories from our lives, we need to feel that we are in our own body

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[Bancopuma]

Interesting stuff, but there may be some interesting exceptions to this. Recent research has strongly suggested that a fair portion of people who have been through an NDE (of which the out of body component is a major part) actually retain memories of the event clearer and more vivid than memories of either their waking life or dreams. Which is especially interesting given the fact that brain function may be highly compromised during NDE's, to varying degrees.

Article:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130327190359.htm

Study:

Thonnard, M., Charland-Verville, V., Brédart, S., Dehon, H., Ledoux, D., Laureys, S. & Vanhaudenhuyse, A. (2013) Characteristics of Near-Death Experiences Memories as Compared to real and Imagined Events Memories. PLoS ONE, 8, (3), e57620.

Characteristics of Near-Death Experiences Memories as Compared to Real and Imagined Events Memories

Since the dawn of time, Near-Death Experiences (NDEs) have intrigued and, nowadays, are still not fully explained. Since reports of NDEs are proposed to be imagined events, and since memories of imagined events have, on average, fewer phenomenological characteristics than real events memories...

www.plosone.org

 

[null24]

I'm on my mobile and have yet to read the study or the articles posted, but I have to agree with Bancopum's statement. In my limited experience with obe's (two, one spontaneous, one induced), and I'm not talking about drug experiences, the memory is clearer than most. They are such profound events that to not remember them would be impossible. It's not like dreaming. Although the body registers the tactile responses from our environment, and them can be stimulated to memory by re-encountering those stimuli, there are 'different' tactile responses in whatever contains consciousness in an obe.

 

[armbarsalot]

Its a pretty limited study (84 participants) so not conclusive by any means. My experience in dreaming & OBE its a struggle to recall much of anything after a few minutes & fits well. The body is part of consciousness, any disconnect, either implied or actual has an effect. Its definitely something i want to recall, perhaps a focusing on bodily cues will help.

 

[112233]

, the memory is clearer than most. They are such profound events that to not remember them would be impossible.

weeeellllll, the same could be said for a DMT breakthrough . . . . and lots of people forget most everything that happens. Like dreaming, with practice comes more recall.