Pamphlet to place with DMT samples?

[arcanum]

^^ Hmm maybe the pamphlet should just read: " Welcome to the DMT-Nexus "

:surprised I've seen that shroomer already explained himself on the subject. But if someone else intends to take up this advice with less worthy intentions and gets their ass busted by the Feds, then having little pamphlets attached to a multitude of individual doses of DMT reading "www.dmt-nexus.me" doesn't sound like a bright idea to me. But hey, maybe I'm wrong?

 

[cyb]

^^ Hmm maybe the pamphlet should just read: " Welcome to the DMT-Nexus "

:surprised I've seen that shroomer already explained himself on the subject. But if someone else intends to take up this advice with less worthy intentions and gets their ass busted by the Feds, then having little pamphlets attached to a multitude of individual doses of DMT reading "www.dmt-nexus.me" doesn't sound like a bright idea to me. But hey, maybe I'm wrong?

I agree...please refer to post no. 8

 

[arcanum]

to cyb, well if the boss is ok with the "flyers" attached to DMT doses then so be it. ( confusion persists)

Shroomer, x8 rehab? have you not considered doing an Ibogaine session? That shouldn't be that difficult for a man of means.

DMT for the terminally ill?, not sure about that, a bad trip is the last thing I'd want to inflict on a dying person.
MDMA would be my choice. You see, when you get a bad DMT trip and fail to integrate quickly and properly it can actually make your fear of dying increase by a big margin. Ayhahuasca under expert guidance for those fit enough to travel, etc. might be an exception.

Anyways good luck.

 

[Bill Cipher]

Painful? I think this is idiosyncratic noise.

Indiosyncratic noise? I'm not really sure what the hell that means, but I assure you it's very real.

Naltrexone isn't a maintenance drug, it's an opiate blocker. It blocks your receptors so you can't get high. This acts as a deterrent when there's nothing else that will stop you from scoring and using. But it's also used in torturous rapid detox programs, where the addict is anesthetized and given an IV flush, which creates a kind of speeded up super withdrawal. Those who go through it wake up withdrawn, but it's an asskicking that takes a long while to recover from. It's a very punishing process.

If you'd ever had an active opiate dependence and taken naltrexone prior to 10 days or so of complete abstinence, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. In both instances this was after all significant withdrawal symptoms had already concluded, so I assumed it was safe to resume. I was wrong, and both times immediately thrown back into 24-48 hours of frothing at the mouth, muscle spasming, blowing out of both ends misery.

This is why recovering users are typically given a test shot of narcan prior to starting naltrexone treatment - because if there is a reaction, it's going to be very short lived.

 

[Shroomer]

^^ Hmm maybe the pamphlet should just read: " Welcome to the DMT-Nexus "

:surprised I've seen that shroomer already explained himself on the subject. But if someone else intends to take up this advice with less worthy intentions and gets their ass busted by the Feds, then having little pamphlets attached to a multitude of individual doses of DMT reading "www.dmt-nexus.me" doesn't sound like a bright idea to me. But hey, maybe I'm wrong?

I agree that having anything linked to the Nexus would be a bad idea. I have been working on putting a few different things together and custom tailoring them to be what I'm envisioning. Also I have an Idea for an Android app that's rolling around in my brain. But I feel I'm not going to be able to make the perfect pamphlet for DMT until I have experience with it my self. I had to delay my order for 2 kilos of MHRB because of a delay in getting tax money so it will be a few extra week till I can do an extraction. I don't mind though it gives me more time to do my homework. I'm in the middle of a expansion of my business and must make sure if I run into any huge unseen expenses I have every penny I need.

I appreciate all the advice and Dark_Star thank you for sharing, I can relate to so much of what you said! Your story is very close to my story...

Peace, Health & Harmony - Shroomer

 

[CAAPI-RIGHT]

Painful? I think this is idiosyncratic noise.

Indiosyncratic noise? I'm not really sure what the hell that means, but I assure you it's very real.

Naltrexone isn't a maintenance drug, it's an opiate blocker. It blocks your receptors so you can't get high. This acts as a deterrent when there's nothing else that will stop you from scoring and using. But it's also used in torturous rapid detox programs, where the addict is anesthetized and given an IV flush, which creates a kind of speeded up super withdrawal. Those who go through it wake up withdrawn, but it's an asskicking that takes a long while to recover from. It's a very punishing process.

If you'd ever had an active opiate dependence and taken naltrexone prior to 10 days or so of complete abstinence, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. In both instances this was after all significant withdrawal symptoms had already concluded, so I assumed it was safe to resume. I was wrong, and both times immediately thrown back into 24-48 hours of frothing at the mouth, muscle spasming, blowing out of both ends misery.

This is why recovering users are typically given a test shot of narcan prior to starting naltrexone treatment - because if there is a reaction, it's going to be very short lived.

Hi Art,
I like your name as I'm a fan of Seinfeld as well. I thought the same as you at first (and I'm a pharmacist) but after reading Jonathon Ott's article I think I might try it myself. I'm currently on methadone and trying to get off but it's a bitch, only gone from 80mg to 20mg and can't seem to go lower. Ott states in his article that there are different receptors for opiates, and that some relieve pain and others make it worse. These receptors that make it worse are much smaller in number and they are the receptor that naltrexone prefers to bind to. Binding this subclass with the antagonist naltrexone allows for no dysphoria and all the euphoria from the other subclass of mu receptors.

He suggests a half microgram dose of naltrexone. The dose given for opiate cessation is usually 50 millograms per day. A 0.5 mcg dose is 1/100,000 of 50 mg dose, which is so negligible it's worth trying, given that in his 2 bioassays he states that the opioid feeling increased by 30% with 0.5 microgram dose administed with the codeine he was already taking. He admits to using for 25 years as well, so I think he knows what he's talking about.

He said it was a subclass of the opiate mu-receptor, which is the main receptor for the euphoria one gets from opiates. When I was in school we learned that there where four subtypes and now I read on wiki that five are known. There will probably be many more known in the future. I'm sure this one is some other sub-type and differs from the mu-receptor type. It must if one causes euphoria and one causes dysphoria from opiates. The journal he cites is from 1996 so for all I know it may even be the kappa receptor, which causes dysphoria (and salvia hallucinations somehow?).

We also learned in pharmacy school that there are 80-100 different endogenous endorphins, so the endorphin system that opiates mimic is a complex one. But this 1/100,000 of a normal dose may be sound science. Someone else in this thread backed it up with experience as well. I wonder if this would work with naloxone which is in Suboxone, cause I have a strip someone gave me and I could probably get thousands of microdoses from it.

Sorry to hear about your adverse reaction, it happened to a friend and I know its far worse than anything I've gone through. But mcg doses may work.

I wonder why pharmaceutical companies aren't all over this. Oh yeah, business would go down! Let's assume they don't know, don't want to start conspiracies.

 

[CAAPI-RIGHT]

Erowid.org: Erowid Reference 7716 : Obviation of opioid withdrawal syndrome by concomitant administration of naltrexone in microgram doses: two psychonautic bioassays : Ott J

Thanks for the Ott article Anthimus!

And thanks Traveler for the pamphlet, and as I now know from reading it, the nexus!

 

[The Traveler]

^^ Hmm maybe the pamphlet should just read: " Welcome to the DMT-Nexus "

:surprised I've seen that shroomer already explained himself on the subject. But if someone else intends to take up this advice with less worthy intentions and gets their ass busted by the Feds, then having little pamphlets attached to a multitude of individual doses of DMT reading "www.dmt-nexus.me" doesn't sound like a bright idea to me. But hey, maybe I'm wrong?

Indeed. Even though harm reduction is gold. The DMT-Nexus should NEVER be associated with distribution of entheogens in ANY form.

The pamphlet needs a revision anyway so it might be wise to make a different derived version that only gives solid advice but no mentioning of the DMT-Nexus.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[Pup Tentacle]

Perhaps said pamphlet should consist of nothing but all the harm-reduction info that can be fit upon it?

 

[cyb]

The DMT-Nexus should NEVER be associated with distribution of entheogens in ANY form.

I have further edited the original post (no.3) ... so as not to be taken literally

 

[a1pha]

The pamphlet needs a revision anyway so it might be wise to make a different derived version that only gives solid advice but no mentioning of the DMT-Nexus.

Wise idea.

Let me know if I can help with the formatting in any way.

It would be nice to LaTeX this document.

 

[Guyomech]

As far as the psychedelics administered to terminal cancer patients goes: it was actually mushrooms.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/magazine/how-psychedelic-drugs-can-help-patients-face-death.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0