UpAndDown said:
nen888 said:
in the vast nexian archives, we find successful crystals and good yields have been obtained from Phalaris brachystachys in the past,
see this Phalaris tek by fourthripley >
On processing Phalaris. PDF - Advanced/Enhanced chemistry - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
which obtained the crystals pictured below
"1200g of foliage harvested in September 2010 yielded 90mg of alkaloid compared to the 25mg recovered from 1200g from September"
1200g fresh p. brachy --> 180g dry p. brachy (
85% water)
180g = 180.000 mg and yields 90mg of DMT. So the % alkaloid content is
0.05% in this example!! :shock: :shock: Far away from 3%
With 25mg is
0.0138%
..while i appreciate this empirical query UpAndDown
i also feel the need to say - i don't have time to do google searches for nexians at the moment, but there is more info if one digs a little deeper..on Phalaris generally and P. brachystachys..but wikipedia is not a trusted source really for most of this plant alkaloid info, like jamie says..
in that thread linked we find a little later on
benzyme:
I did a sonication on some phalaris a while back, followed by a quick A/B. the product looked identical after re-x. Brachystachys is certainly the way to go, yield-wise.
digging deeper we find benzyme also tested
Jorkest's extract, as in:
Phalaris Brachystachy - STB - Xylene Extraction - then FASA
which seems to be
115mg 'dmt' from around 5 grams dry weight grass..not bad
but, there are a couple of Phalaris points this line of enquiry brings to mind for me..
1) Plants (especially very polyploidal species like Phalaris) vary greatly, including seasonally..except for a clone (and even then seasonal and nutrient factors vary) we can't ever give a 'true' % for such a species, only a range..
over the years, even before the internet really existed with forums etc, i've heard of many many phalaris experiments..there are lower yields and higher yields (less common), which is why the Nexus has done a lot of work to identify and test particular strains or genotypes, an ongoing work
2) Experimentation is still where most Phalaris work is at...i'd say, from the many reports i've heard over the years, the general average Phalaris yields are 0.1-0.3%..given how abundant some stands of some species are, this is still something to be grateful for..a bit more work for a free gift from nature, that can even grow in Iceland!
..the highest Phalaris alkaloid contents i'm aware are the Italian AQ1 clone (1% DMT of dry weight) and also in a paper i posted somewhere on the nexus, i recall alkaloid content upper range (on another Phalaris species) at 1.5%..but i've used up my search the nexus time quota today...
but these percentages are out there to be found..looking for "3%" in anything would seem a bit over-hopeful..
from that linked thread:
fourthripley:
95 mg of alkaloids from 1200 g of material
This is of course wet weight. Taking that down to dry weight equivelency 95mg from 120g- or there abouts- doesn't seem too bad for a source that can be harvested in 8 weeks or so