~Phalaris = The Way Of The Future~

[Jamie01]

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Thread 'Passifloras of Interest..(& MAOI plant Flavonoids)'

Nov 9, 2011

..from researching the MAOI effects of various flavonoids, i am inspired to start a Passiflora thread.. some contain useable amounts of harmala alkaloids, but much of the sedative/action of these species is due to flavonoids..more on this later.
..northern hemispherians can perhaps bask in warm notions of growing some next spring..in fact some of the biggest collections of grown world-wide passifloras are in Germany and the Netherlands..

the following list is taken mainly from Voogelbreinder (2009), which has an excellent passiflora section, there are around 600 species worldwide...

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[neurobloom]

please consider the subjective nature of these experiences. Active Phalaris works just fine even when it’s not dried before processing.

We had Tanit tested many times by TLC and fresh vs dry leaves didn't show any difference in profile and yield neither i have noticed any difference with bulk extractions for smoking they're pretty much the same.

 

[purple sticky]

Russian olive is another potential MAOI. I think it's mainly harmane and norharmane (weaker MAOI than classic harmalas though) but like you said why bother when Syrian rue is plenty and cheap?

I remain cautious talking about MAOI's when discuss phalaris due to the often unpredictable nature of phalaris profile.

For sure. The benefit of passiflora is that it's indigenous to a lot of the States. The fruit are delicious as well and the taste of the leaves is surprising. I think it's best as a food or at best used as an herbal remedy. I do think it's an interesting plant to have knowledge about but it's application seems wildly laborious for little pay off. I believe that Syrian Rue can grow nearly everywhere anyways plus it's super easy to get.

MAOIs do kind of have a certain kind of danger to them. You can die by ingestion of specific aged cheeses while using an MAOI. A lot of medications will change quite a bit alongside an MAOI as well, some of which can turn out to be pretty dangerous.

There is the part of me that loves the research though. I think developing a 'tek' or whatever for passionflower would be valuable as we may not always have access to things like Syrian Rue. I'd rather know that it could be used and never have to. I haven't used Syrian Rue ever though, but I'm tempted to buy some just to add to my collection of specimens. I think it's an important ethnobotanical plant.

 

[blig-blug]

You can die by ingestion of specific aged cheeses while using an MAOI

Not with RIMAs (Reversible Inhibitors of MAO-A) like harmalas or passiflora.

 

[neurobloom]

For sure. The benefit of passiflora is that it's indigenous to a lot of the States. The fruit are delicious as well and the taste of the leaves is surprising. I think it's best as a food or at best used as an herbal remedy. I do think it's an interesting plant to have knowledge about but it's application seems wildly laborious for little pay off. I believe that Syrian Rue can grow nearly everywhere anyways plus it's super easy to get.

MAOIs do kind of have a certain kind of danger to them. You can die by ingestion of specific aged cheeses while using an MAOI. A lot of medications will change quite a bit alongside an MAOI as well, some of which can turn out to be pretty dangerous.

There is the part of me that loves the research though. I think developing a 'tek' or whatever for passionflower would be valuable as we may not always have access to things like Syrian Rue. I'd rather know that it could be used and never have to. I haven't used Syrian Rue ever though, but I'm tempted to buy some just to add to my collection of specimens. I think it's an important ethnobotanical plant.

I know an old friend who os taking blood thinning medication and consumed rue as herbal complement without his doctor's advice. It lead him having a stroke and partial loss of motor control. This happened on the third day of starting to consume rue tea. One full teaspoon a night.