Nitegazer
Rising Star
Hey fellow extractors,
I'm in the middle of an extraction based on this method, but started with 100g powdered yellow caapi. In the interest of capturing all the alkaloids, I lysed the heck out of it: vinegar/water soak for 6 hours, followed by freezing, and then 15 min boils for each pull.
When I first tried to basify, the color changes in solution indicated that the reactions were going as expected. Unforunately, very little fell out of solution. After an overnight, only a thin coating of alks on the bottom of my vessel.
I suspected that oils or something else from the plant was locking up the alkaloids, preventing them from clumping up properly and holding them in suspension. I added more lye (totaling about 16g for the 900ml solution), tried vibrating (using an electric razor, as suguested here by some helpful fellow) and finally added a bit of salt. At least one of these was a factor in some good precipitation.
You will see that the precip is not falling to the bottom, which will make it difficult to separate from the basic water mix. Should I filter? What would folks recommend? I have tried fridging overnight, but that didn't seem to do the trick.
**EDIT** - I found that by removing just a portion of the liquid volume and replacing with regular tap that the crystals broke up to finer particles and sank to the bottom. Problem solved. I'll just check back once I have a final yeild.
I'm in the middle of an extraction based on this method, but started with 100g powdered yellow caapi. In the interest of capturing all the alkaloids, I lysed the heck out of it: vinegar/water soak for 6 hours, followed by freezing, and then 15 min boils for each pull.
When I first tried to basify, the color changes in solution indicated that the reactions were going as expected. Unforunately, very little fell out of solution. After an overnight, only a thin coating of alks on the bottom of my vessel.
I suspected that oils or something else from the plant was locking up the alkaloids, preventing them from clumping up properly and holding them in suspension. I added more lye (totaling about 16g for the 900ml solution), tried vibrating (using an electric razor, as suguested here by some helpful fellow) and finally added a bit of salt. At least one of these was a factor in some good precipitation.
You will see that the precip is not falling to the bottom, which will make it difficult to separate from the basic water mix. Should I filter? What would folks recommend? I have tried fridging overnight, but that didn't seem to do the trick.
**EDIT** - I found that by removing just a portion of the liquid volume and replacing with regular tap that the crystals broke up to finer particles and sank to the bottom. Problem solved. I'll just check back once I have a final yeild.