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Problems with Cyb's ATB hybrid salt tek

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SWIM is using Cyb's ATB hybrid salt tek. First pull was OK. Subsequent have been next to nothing. Can using to much naphtha prevent the salt from precipitating? Is solution to just let naphtha evaporate, then do recrystal? Could it just be lame plant material?
 
The word "salt" in Cyb's salt tek refers to the NaCl in step 4.
What precipitates in the naphtha is not a salt form.

Yes the partly evaporating of naphtha is a common treat so it starts to 'milk' at room temp, certainly if you give it a soft gentle whiff on the surface with a ones soul's laden exhale. I've never tried without soul.

BTW I like Zatoichi more than Kill Bill :thumb_up:
 
I was told to try the Max Ion variation of this tek. During the acidfy, it says to heat for 8 hours, but does not specify what temperature. Have people experimented? Saw in one section that during acidify 70C should be used. Is this too hot? What are the ramifications of too much or too little heat?

I have a few jars that I started as Salt tek, and already have acid in them. Any problem freezing them, and then doing another heat for 8 hours? I do not want to screw things up.

What temperature for hot water the salt is mixed with?
What temperature for hot water bath with Lye?
What temperature should naphtha be before mixing with solution?
Doesn't it get heated and mixed when naphtha is in it? Cybs salt tek said that heated pulls extract more DMT.
How much is minimal amount of naphtha for 50 or 100 grams of MHRB?
Following the tek is 50 or 100 grams of MHRB better?
It say the final liquid will be about 1.5 liters. I only see about 600 to 700 listed in tek.
 
Acidified brews (or brews where alkaloids are in their salt-form <-- not to be confused with NaCl!!) are pretty temp resistant, have you never heard of brewing ayahuasca in boiling pots?

I would never warm up pots with elevated pH due lye in.

Warm naphtha to pull better is like just above room temp say 30 - 35 deg C. Done bain marie style in a very ventilated place. Watch out it tends to build up pressure when shaken!

So far for immediate safety advise, no more spoon feeding from me here, I'm sorry.
 
Thanks for that info, although the details are still extremely vague. Not knowing and guessing is far more dangerous than following a procedure. Still no idea why he states it will be 1.5 liters and only totals 600ml to 700ml. I will just have to guess on the rest.:?

I knew the heated Ayahuasca, but was not sure they boiled it.
 
After reading all of the teks, which used exact numbers for things in most cases, read some other notes in the wiki. For temps I saw 75C for acid, 60C for base, and 40C for naphtha. I am trying to follow tek exactly, to see if any tweaks increase results. That is why I was interested in details.
 
zatoichi said:
I was told to try the Max Ion variation of this tek. During the acidfy, it says to heat for 8 hours, but does not specify what temperature. Have people experimented? Saw in one section that during acidify 70C should be used. Is this too hot? What are the ramifications of too much or too little heat?

I have a few jars that I started as Salt tek, and already have acid in them. Any problem freezing them, and then doing another heat for 8 hours? I do not want to screw things up.

What temperature for hot water the salt is mixed with?
What temperature for hot water bath with Lye?
What temperature should naphtha be before mixing with solution?
Doesn't it get heated and mixed when naphtha is in it? Cybs salt tek said that heated pulls extract more DMT.
How much is minimal amount of naphtha for 50 or 100 grams of MHRB?
Following the tek is 50 or 100 grams of MHRB better?
It say the final liquid will be about 1.5 liters. I only see about 600 to 700 listed in tek.
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I used wrong term. Getting used to nomenclature. By salt I meant crystals or precipitate.
 
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