Psychic Abilities

[hrtsongmeditation]

I have an interesting paradox that I'm trying to deal with and wonder if anyone may have insights that may help.

I have had quite a few experiences with psychic abilities over the years and am determined to develop whatever talent I have to the fullest. I believe that the world will benefit greatly by seeing, recognizing and developing psychic abilities.

I know that it is by opening up to love and light that my abilities grow stronger and that fear and ego get in the way.

My fear and ego have had a field day with the fact that the vast majority of people don't really believe in psychic abilities. Among other things I've had issues with worrying how others would react if they found out and had a profound sense of loneliness and isolation.

I believe that one day psychic abilities will be normal and I know that the only chance that will ever happen is if those with abilities develop them and share their gifts with the world; but, I'm afraid.

That is part of why I'm here, what I'm hoping to get from DMT and psychedelics, I need help dealing with the fear so that I can go forward. I need more love and peace so that I'm not freaked out by the things I've seen and that I know I can do.

I need to go deeper in meditation, but going deeper will awaken things to a higher level.

I need to connect with God and with the angels so that I can learn and grow; but, I'm not entirely sure I really want to learn and grow.

And, I'm kind of ashamed of my own cowardice.

 

[Mustelid]

Don't worry about apprehension, to be concerned with ego is wise.

As Falstaff said in Shakespeare's Henry IV - Part One, "The better part of valour is discretion."

The advice my Mother gave me in both regards, personal and psychic growth, "Meditation is the Key."

"Meditation is the Ki," works too. Ki being Japanese for Chi.

Don't get too hung up on what others think too. There are a lot of frauds in the psychic business. If you don't present yourself like one, you'll be ok.

Some would say because there is no consensus proof of the existence of paranormal phenomenon, that developing spiritually is a waste of time. To that I say, there are established benefits to meditation, you don't have to agree on how an engine works to drive the car.

Subconscious processing of data or gleaning of information from the ether? The source doesn't matter if the information you get works for you and improves your life!

 

[hrtsongmeditation]

Don't get too hung up on what others think too. There are a lot of frauds in the psychic business. If you don't present yourself like one, you'll be ok.

Some would say because there is no consensus proof of the existence of paranormal phenomenon, that developing spiritually is a waste of time.

Agreed. That's all part of what drives me. I have seen enough to be convinced myself, including several instances of objects moving apparently in relation to my thoughts and feelings (while wide awake and without the influence of mind-altering substances.) I'm fairly certain that if I can work out the right method of meditation I could develop at least some degree of TK.

If I can offer the scientific world something concrete to grasp on it would make a big difference to a lot of people, not the least being other people like me who have seen things and wonder if they're going crazy. Maybe someday there could be some sort of publicly accepted certifying organization to weed out the frauds and protect people from hoaxes.

This is really a big part of where ego and fear come in. Objectively, if it's real somebody has to go first, to develop abilities and show the world; not necessarily me. Honestly, given the choice, I'd rather somebody else go first; but, since nobody else seems to have pulled it off (or at least come forward publicly as having pulled it off and willingly allowed the scientific community to examine them to determine a hoax) I feel a personal responsibility to keep going forward and keep trying.

I'm actually quite concerned about why no more concrete evidence has come forward yet. Is it just the centuries of witch hunting and people with abilities being understandably cautious about coming forward? Am I actually delusional?

Is there some form of organized opposition to the truth coming forward? I can easily see why the dark and destructive entities I have sometimes encountered while meditating may want to make people distrustful of learning those things that could make someone an effective exorcist.

Is it that so many have failed and requires a level of focus and determination that most will not put into pursuing a "doomed" cause? If so, again, I feel obligated to keep pushing forward in the name of science and truth. And also, because if my little one inherited these abilities (and I have seen evidence that he has) I would feel terrible if I gave up and left him facing the same kind of issues that I have been facing. At least he can have something I never had, a dad that believes and understands what he's going through.

 

[Jin]

i've found being in the moment to be a great benifit , if one wants anykind of psychic ability , no doubt i am hardly interested in psychic abilities yet being in the moment sometimes allows me to know what is coming and also at times i've been able to read the other persons mind and i exactly know what they are going to say next

i don't know whether this phenomenon is because of the predictblity of language or genuine ability , yet being in the moment is simply awesome , try concious breathing aswell as paying attention to sound , both are simply great methods to achieve this

 

[Axismundi]

follow your heart and the mistery of the human body will unfold through experience.

 

[hrtsongmeditation]

All good advice.

Mostly I keep going forward and keep trying because it feels right.

Fear doesn't feel right.

Faith and love feel right.

 

[BergTrip]

[...] I believe that the world will benefit greatly by seeing, recognizing and developing psychic abilities.

I know that it is by opening up to love and light that my abilities grow stronger and that fear and ego get in the way. [...]

The way I see it, ideally the expansion of psychic abilities is just a possible by-product of spiritual growth ('opening up to love and light'.) And if your yearning for love and light deepens, your yearning for psychic abilities will lessen. Psychic abilities have their value perhaps, but I don't see how the world would benefit from it greatly if more people would be psychic.

But the world would benefit if we as humanity would become more and more conscious of the fact that what we truly long for is love and light.

And about the ego. Longing for psychic abilities is potentially a bigger ego-game than longing for love and light.

Having said that, it's still an interesting subject matter, this psychic stuff. I just wouldn't place it at the forefront.

 

[hrtsongmeditation]

Largely I agree and since the love and light is the more important aspect and I believe ultimately the part that awakens the abilities that is where I place most of my focus; but, I have to respectfully disagree about the value to the world if more people were psychic.

If nothing else the existence of psychic abilities would be a powerful symbol as to the value of meditation and of focusing on personal spiritual growth. It would work to counteract the idea that those who actively seek to cultivate greater levels of love and light are naïve and get more people to actively consider the ideals that are being taught.

I can see a great deal of value for having therapists with empathic and telepathic abilities; and, I suspect that a great number of individuals drawn to those fields have latent psychic abilities that could be developed and would enhance their ability to help their patients. This may contribute to the high suicide rate in therapists.

It is not difficult to see the value of TK for law enforcement. Possibly a telekinetic could disarm a suspect without having to shoot them.

Not to mention all the possibilities in terms of entertainment - I've got a great mental image of the kind of show that could be put on moving crystals in hypnotic patterns. Maybe one day the could be a "Psychic Olympics" with events of both raw psychic strength and style/finesse.

 

[Walter D. Roy]

No one said it would be fun when we delved into our soul! Especially with psychedelics. Just keep pushing forward and illusions with disappear. Fear is an illusion.

 

[kervork]

Fear is destroyed by action.

You stand at the edge of a cliff above the water. (we've all been there)

You feel the fear as you stand there, contemplating the jump. As long as you stand there you feel the fear.

Notice, how the second your feet leave the ground, your emotion changes. It is no longer fear.

 

[hrtsongmeditation]

And I do keep acting. I pray and meditate every day, some would say too much. Every time I meditate the fear dissolves, at least for a while.

The real time that the fear gets me is afterwards, especially if I experience something new. Mostly the fear is "Oh shit. I'm driving myself crazy." I have gotten to a point where I have conversations with my soul/my God Self on almost a daily basis and occasional conversations with angels and other spirits. I have regular conversations with voices in my head and I believe that they are legitimate psychic communication. I have on occasion been told things that even subconscious processing of information would not cover.

One of my first experiences with telepathic communication with non-corporeal entities happened after I fell asleep listening to a binaural beat CD designed to open my 3rd eye. I set it on repeat and fell asleep listening. I woke up with a splitting headache. I had some errand I had to do (I no longer remember what, the errand was inconsequential) and as I drove I had this voice in my head start bugging me to buy a lottery ticket. I grew up Christian and had at this point never bought a lottery ticket, subscribing to the idea that the lottery was a tax on those who are bad at math. After a while I decided to go ahead and buy the ticket in order to get the voice to shut up and leave me alone. I paid $1 and won $600.

So, I have good reason to believe in the reality of the voices that I talk too; but, sometimes they're wrong as well. I can't always tell the difference between my imagination, my wants and desires and legitimate spirit communication and that kind of freaks me out. I keep going forward figuring that in time I'll get better, but it's not always easy to stick to it.

Mostly I'm here talking because when I'm feeling insecure it helps me to go over the reasons that I believe. It helps me to talk things out when I feel nervous and go over the reasons I believe and the reasons I think it's important that I not give up.

So, thank you for giving me a platform to do that. I really appreciate the feedback. It's nice actually talking to other live people about all of this.

Does anyone else here in the Nexus have personal experiences to share? I would love to hear more stories that defy the explanation of our current paradigm.

 

[ajscent]

Hello dude
Good to hear you story !
Gotta say though ... Why would you want enhanced abilities ?

To further gain influence and power in the world ? To help people ? To be influential and important behind a guise of being spiritual ? To be different to others and validate a feeling of being special ?

Sorry if that's harsh but I am worried for anyone who would want special abilities.

If this timeless power , love , endless destroying love which has created star systems and the Milky Way wanted you to have
Special abilities to show the rest of the world I really doubt it would be getting you to play binaural beats and concentrate , meditate on the want of psychic abilities. It would just simply hand them to you on a plate.

In history you can see many people who have seeked special abilities and each have gone down in history as being pretty troubled and doubted as to their validity.

I read in your post something along the lines of 'society is suppressing psychic ability" but I don't think that's the case , people love a magic show, ESP someone like Derren Brown , he is amazing. If someone could move objects around by will that guy would be on every news channel going , every you tube show and newspaper.

I can't help but be concerned for your well being as to why you would strive for this ability ? This specialness?

You are special as you are , not an enhanced version of yourself , no ones perfect and that's cool , it's ok.
But seeking magic powers is just not healthy , and again I really ask you why you want this even if it were possible ? I can't help but be straight with you and ask is it to gain noteriety and social standing ?

If it truly is for noteriety and social standing then I would like to suggest doing that in ways that will achieve that for yourself , because going down this road is very likely to lead to self hatred , social anxiety and a grave feeling of isolation.

It's never to late to learn and turn things around , not even if you are 90 years old.

Enjoy the lottery ticket , I used to work as a croupier when I was 18 ... You have no idea how many first time gamblers win , it is uncanny , completely bizarre , I would see it every night. A young kid would come in , state it was his first time and he would often win , time and time again , of course the kid then believed he was special and would loose his money. But it was a phenomena all of us saw working there , a certain naivety with a new punter somehow gave them that initial win.

What's a healthy mind ? Someone who doesn't need to prove themselfs to others , or be superior . People who search for psychic powers don't have those traits. I know I may sound harsh I can just see you walking directly into psychological trouble unless you drop the need for psychic powers man.

Good luck , and again sorry if sounds harsh , but hey

 

[Metanoia]

No one said it would be fun when we delved into our soul! Especially with psychedelics. Just keep pushing forward and illusions with disappear. Fear is an illusion.

The real time that the fear gets me is afterwards, especially if I experience something new. Mostly the fear is "Oh shit. I'm driving myself crazy." I have gotten to a point where I have conversations with my soul/my God Self on almost a daily basis and occasional conversations with angels and other spirits. I have regular conversations with voices in my head and I believe that they are legitimate psychic communication. I have on occasion been told things that even subconscious processing of information would not cover.

I can really relate to this. I don't normally open up and tell people about the fact that I hear voices on a regular basis. They think you're insane. I don't worry about what they think, I worry about what they might do because of what they think. I don't want to be committed to an institution because I told the wrong person I could communicate with spirits

Many years ago I came to the realization that if these voices/communications weren't negative, they weren't telling me to hurt myself or someone else, that I should just do my best to embrace it. Everyone has some fear of losing their mind. I think if you feel normal and these voices are actually helping you in some way, there's no issue.

Like Walter so succinctly put it, no one said it would be fun

 

[hrtsongmeditation]

Thanks for the concern ajscent, but I think there's a couple of things you've got backwards.

Mostly, the issue is that the social anxiety and feelings of isolation are where I'm at now and what I'm trying to deal with. It's not easy having something as a part of your day to day life that society as a whole does not accept. And, it's bloody annoying that I can't even go to a therapist to help me deal with my issues because most therapists would just assume that I'm schizophrenic.

Would you say that a gay man wanting to come "out of the closet" was psychologically unhealthy for wanting the acceptance of his family and friends? Of course not. And, if that same man became a gay rights advocate because he was tired of dealing with people who didn't accept him, you'd get it. Here's the thing - The gay rights advocate is specifically fighting not to be special. He is fighting for acceptance. He doesn't want to feel singled out. He doesn't want people making a big deal out of it.

The issue is that the stuff that happens regularly is perceptual and difficult to prove. How do I prove that I'm not crazy when I talk to spirits? Talking to spirits is part of my daily life and keeping something like that a secret is bound to cause emotional problems and resentment of other people for not listening and understanding. But, at the same time I can't really blame people for not believing without more concrete evidence. So, if I can I will provide it. I believe that I have latent TK that I can develop. I believe that I can provide people with evidence.

Psychic abilities are a part of my day to day life and have been since I was a kid. They are a gift from the universe. I was born with them. Like any gift from the universe it takes training to develop those gifts to their max potential. And, like any gift from the universe, fear and doubt can jack you up so you never reach your potential. A bit more with psychic abilities, but fear and self-doubt can jack up a physical talent too. You're not going to find a pro gymnast who hasn't had to face and overcome fear. Fear freezes people up.

I don't want my abilities stronger to be special, just the opposite. I know a girl who was kicked out of BYU because her roommate walked in on her floating above her bed in her sleep. That's not right. I don't like it when people's lives get jacked up because of other people being ignorant.

"In history you can see many people who have seeked special abilities and each have gone down in history as being pretty troubled and doubted as to their validity."

Most people I've met with abilities keep them secret and I don't think that they should have to. That's what I'm fighting. That's what I'm trying to change. I was born with abilities and I know others who were too. No one should have to grow up feeling like a freak because of something that they were born with. I want to live in a world where "I want to be a professional psychic" is every bit as normal as "I want to be a doctor." Of course, that will never happen if nobody stands up; so, I take personal responsibility for making the change I want to see in the world.

I'm here. I'm psychic. Get used to it.

 

[hixidom]

To perhaps side with ajscent a little: Pursuing enhanced psychic abilities requires you to start with the assumption that you are not perfect the way you are now. You say you want to rid yourself of fear, but you seem to overlook your fear of being limited and of the inherent meekness of humanity.

 

[ajscent]

Ok dude I hear you , I'm not sure it's cool for me to debate anything further with you , honestly I thought your story was full of self deception and some of the sentences used , even where you suggested you may be delusional and putting in excessive mediation time was maybe not doing you good .

It's all sounding just a little bit to X Men with your telekanisis powers and that your going to be the first human to show the media these powers.

I wish you well man , and it's not cool for me to question anything further , I guess we are on an open forum and when you put your story out your going to get lots of various viewpoints.

Good luck with the Telekanisis and introducing the media to your abilities. I really don't know what else to say bruv

 

[ajscent]

I don't want my abilities stronger to be special, just the opposite. I know a girl who was kicked out of BYU because her roommate walked in on her floating above her bed in her sleep. That's not right. I don't like it when people's lives get jacked up because of other people being ignorant.

Dude , man this really isn't to be taken at face value ? I know under the influence all things including the impossible happen but I have to use my voice of reason here , people do not levitate. They just don't . It's too funny.

Regarding the voices , I can't comment here as I have no experience and only have a slight understanding , and from what I read others also have a sligh understanding. I totally get for anyone experiencing this kind of path that it must be fraught with difficulty and is not something that I wish to experience so I am not in any way a valid interpreter of what this kind of experience means.
I'm in no way laughing at you or be-littleing this side of things as its simply something I have no experience of. I do however totally agree that talking to other people about this is a tricky thing to do. I wouldn't know what to suggest.

I really like antripoles (a member here) take on things and maybe he could make sense of that kind of stuff. ? Don't know, but at the end of the day it's all so personal and whatever believes we carry do take our energy and also manifest into the thoughts we carry around and develop. I'm always going to knock someone who says they can do telekanisis , and don't get me wrong , I wouldn't mind lasers coming out of my finger tips and stuff like that but with my feet on the ground it just doesn't happen.

Have a good evening dude and I guess whilst is always the way we will do just as we want to do. Good luck.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

I really like antripoles (a member here) take on things

i am fairly sure you mean antrocles

there is no antripoles on this forum.

 

[hrtsongmeditation]

It's alright man, I'm not offended and you're not going to offend me.

Honestly part of the reason I come out and talk in forums like this is that I feel like the time and effort I put into defending my position strengthens me a bit. Dealing with people who disagree with me helps me learn to deal with it better. I need both confidence and humility and I develop both. Speaking my mind instead of keeping things a secret helps me to deal with the social anxiety and gain self-confidence. Dealing with dissenting viewpoints helps me to develop humility.

And, for the most part I agree with everything you're saying. A lot of the fear that's been messing with me is rooted in the very points you are making. Is it hubris to think I can succeed where others have failed? How many people tried and failed to build a flying machine before the Wright brothers got it right? I don't know that I'll succeed; but, I do know that I can't succeed if I give up.

I'm particularly haunted by the question of whether I am actually schizophrenic. Maybe I should be on medication. But, I've seen enough stuff that I don't really buy that explanation. I want something concrete so that I can put that nagging worry out of my head forever and if I can do it publicly it helps anybody else who's seen similar weird stuff to believe in themselves too.

I've got a lifetime of weirdness. For example, I had one time a couple of years ago when I fell asleep meditating and woke up with one of my crystals floating above me. After about a minute it fell and gave me a black eye. No chemicals involved.

Again, I understand the skepticism, but that's why I feel like if there is even a little chance of success I have to go forward. While I have moments when I'm worried about why stuff hasn't come out I think that at the end of the day it's mostly because there are so many people who don't believe. Before the Wright Bros how many people were sure that building a flying machine was impossible? When the world things you're nuts it's kinda hard to follow your dreams. How often is impossible an illusion based on lack of experience?

Add that to the reality of the inquisition and witch hunts so that anybody with the least bit of talent has good reason to be afraid of the population at large and you've got a pretty compelling reason things haven't come out yet.

I get that it may have looked a little off when I first posted everything. Let me put it this way - I never meant to imply that I believed that those fears were valid, my concern is more that they get in the way of the calm and focus that I believe that I need to cultivate.

And, I get that it may be easier to believe that I'm nuts or a bored 13 yr old getting off on making up stories. It's not always easy for me to believe and I'm the one that has lived it. If it were easy to believe I wouldn't be having so much trouble.

And like I said most of what I'm after in talking about it is the self-confidence that comes from speaking my mind and being true to myself. I feel like that confidence is important to my going farther. I don't actually need anyone to believe me to get that.

All that said, thanks for being honest with me man. I've always preferred it when people are open and honest instead of keeping silent and just writing me off as nuts. I could tell in the way you wrote everything that you come from a place of sincere concern and are not just judging. I appreciate the opportunity to say my piece.

 

[Hiyo Quicksilver]

When weird shit happens, I always find it most useful to try and reasonable and somewhat objective about it. That's not to say that it's too easy to remain critical and reasonable while electrical devices are flicking on an off to the flux of my emotions, when I get up to retrieve my phone moments before a call comes in, or when my thoughts echo the words coming out of another's mouth seconds before they say them... but it's certainly an antidote for the mania that comes with over-analyzing these things. Besides, I've only ever noticed positive effects in that department from a critical attitude. I hate to quote McKenna, but his riff on Thomas the Doubter is an eloquent case for holding your own and not allowing your reason to sway in the wake of fantastical happenings.

However you take it, there's no reason to feel alone because the way you experience the world seems so alien from those around you... Just interact with others according to what you have in common, and everything shakes out fine. People are people, and even a complete nutter seems like a sage when he chooses his words carefully; there's often little reason to expose others around you to the inexplicable nature of your own reality, however weird it is... But making outlandish claims or publicly attempting fantastical acts will make you the focus potentially unwanted or negative attention. If there's validity to your experience, then why bother proving yourself? Just go your way and do what you want to, and what you can...
And hell, if it turns out that you were just delusional all along, there's no silly mistakes to apologize for because you were smart enough to avoid them all along.

Ultimately, identifying as psychic, crazy, or a friggin messiah is completely useless anyway; just an ego trip full of attachment and doubt. Shrugging off the labels and roles is just as vital as the serenity it takes to discern fantasy from reality at the heights of ecstasy. The label is just one more thing to cling to and doubt. If you really are committed to seeing what's truly going on, where's the harm in stopping the self-conversation, projection and desire to convince others. The silent self work is where the real benefit is anyway, and discretion is always the key to using any power to its potential.

...besides, nobody needs another psychic, raving messianic asshole, or akashic reader. We need good, wise people who will level on the line and encourage us all to learn and explore together and find new ways to live. People are people after all.
If you can find a way to use any quality you have to further that end, great! Otherwise, it's just background noise. Even if you can pitch no hitters from 1000 miles away, what good does it do?