Quick question about ayahuasca

[keleblin]

I'm in the process of brewing up my first batch. What I need to know is, do I have enough caapi? I have 28g of red vine, and 28g of leaves from Bouncing Bear Botanicals. I've already brewed the caapi 3 times at 3 hours each, and reduced the brew to about 100ml (from about one liter).

I have plenty of rue extract in concentration of ~75mg/ml (according to the vendor, and it fluoresces brightly under UV, so I trust it), if I need to supplement my caapi brew with some additional harmala alkaloids.

 

[Eliyahu]

I don't really know what level of experience your going for so I can only speak for myself but.....

It takes me between at the very least 75 grams of Caapi to even get proper visuals...
I generally consume between 100-150 grams worth of Caapi in brew form during a typical session, I also add about a gram or two of Syrian rue to make the experience last longer and to give the visuals a touch more color. By the way I have tried the "mckenna" red vine from a few different vendors and it is nicer than most, it's probably the same thing you have. I would still use at least 100 grams per person if you want the proper purge and the full effects.



or....if that is all you have I would take something to potentiate it...

Psilocybin Mushrooms, Mescaline or LSD work well as Ayahuasca magnifiers.

Of course when I take Ayahuasca I personally am generally going for a fully immersive +4 soul satisfying experience, not just a walk in daisy park.

 

[Eliyahu]

Also, I'm afraid 28grams of Chacruna leaves won't do anything but turn your teeth green for a minute. From my experience it takes a lot more than that and as you know..

"Chacruna ain't cheap"

..and this is why most folks around these parts use mimosa or even better yet pure DMT for our Ayauasca Takin'.

 

[Eliyahu]

OH HEY SORRY!!

I didn't see that part you wrote at the bottom where it says your taking syrian rue extract with it...

I must be going blind from taking to much DMT (haha.)

Anyways I still think 50-75 grams of vine is in order even with rue....I would just take more vine and less rue because too much rue will over-dominate the experience...

and i'm sticking to what I said about the Chacruna just staining your teeth

 

[keleblin]

That's what I thought. Looks like I'll be using a few drops of rue extract to make sure this brew has enough force behind it. I'm looking for a strong experience, strong enough for some deep spiritual-healing/psychonautic-exploration. I have a friend who is giving me an audio recording of the last ayahuasca ceremony he attended in Peru last year, to listen to during my aya trip.

The leaves I was referring to are caapi leaves. I'm using MHRB for the DMT source.

 

[endlessness]

Do NOT add extra harmalas at least till you tried the batch first.

I have had caapi VERY potent at 25-40g.

It is prudent that you do a test ingestion of 10-20g the first time you try a caapi batch. You can even consume more the same day since no tolerance is created, but first take little and wait for a couple of hours before you take more.

I dont know about the chacruna from BBB.. Ive heard hawaian chacruna is also very potent, though most chacrunas are very weak.. You can make concentrated brew separate from caapi first, and once you know the strenght of each you can put them together if you want, in appropriate proportion.

Same if you're using MHRB, start with 3g, see how that goes, take more later/another time if its not enough.

You can also have your pipe ready with freebase dmt if you dont get where you want.

 

[Eliyahu]

It's probably good advice to start small...

I guess I have just become frustrated from never having low doses of caapi work.
And then I feel like I wasted it.. so I always tend to dive right in...

don't mean to give unsafe advise

 

[Eliyahu]

I'm also wondering who endlessness's caapi supplier is?...I don't know of anyone that has gotten caapi that strong. I'm not doubting it's very possible I have just never had that kind of luck with my caapi purchases

 

[jamie]

I have some caapi that will have you begging for your fraking like at 80g, puking for hours dying over and over again. 20g of this vine is a full on visionary dose and will be my limit with this vine from now on till I finish it. Yes, B.caapi vine like this is out there but it is rare..I went from drinking 80-120g of caapi on a regular basis to dosing 80g of this vine thinking it would be a normal dose..this was on par with what I would imagine 320g of caapi would be like, with admixture..trust me it is best not to assume you know the limitation of ayahuasca and it's potentcy..

Beyond that I also have B.muricata red ayhuasca vine here that is about that same potentcy..active at even 10g..

Then I have black Alicia Aniopetala vine here that is reported to be even stronger than that..