Rue Cold Water?

[Anty]

Edit: Just wanted to update. 4 grams syrian rue with 10 grams mimosa hostilis, both powdered, with a splash of vinegar in a mason jar of water for one week, shaken daily, was incredibly powerful. Lower the dose if intense isn’t your preference. Loved it.

Original post:
Does anybody know if a cold water extract of syrian rue would work? I know it works wonderfully well with acacia, and it’s just so convenient to just shake a jar of water and then filter/drink the liquid at the end of the week.

I’ve never added lemon juice to my CWE acacia before, but perhaps with rue and mimosa in there together it wouldn’t be a bad idea to add a bit? How much lemon juice would one add to a CWE? Never tried it. If anyone’s got some info to share that’d be great

I was thinking 4G rue and 10G mimosa in 250ml water… would this work? Lemon juice is a completely unknown factor to me. Drops? A bucket? (Kidding, but seriously, I have no clue).

How many doses does the cwe method mentioned in the edit make.

 

[Sakkadelic]

How many doses does the cwe method mentioned in the edit make.

One.

Mimosa is apparently active on its own with CWE, and with syrian rue in the mix 10g mimosa is a rather high dose. 4-5 g mimosa would be a more moderate dose.

Thread 'Efficiency of Mimosa cold water extraction'

Jul 17, 2025

I've been reading some old threads on using a cold water extraction for Mimosa. The consensus seemed to be that much less tannins and gunk are extracted that by boiling. That makes it very interesting to me, as the reason I stopped using Mimosa is that my body seemed to reject the tannins (egg tek wasn't enough).

However, many people made CWEs with the intention of drinking it without harmalas, something possible with Mimosa that requires a much higher dose to be effective. Thus, I don't know how effective the extraction is when compared to simmering, I only found a single pertinent...

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[Panpsychic]

So I tried this method for peganum harmala with CWE or basically cold brewed tea, ground up some Rue seeds and put them in a jar with some water and dash of vinegar to lower PH and reduce chance of mould growth, in the fridge, shaking every day.

It seems to work, but is very slow. You can tell the intensity of the brew and harmala concentration by the color with rue tea, and after a week it wasn't nearly as concentrated as a comparative tea that had been simmered once for just half an hour.

I think if one really has no time with a minimal approach, one may as well boil some water in the kettle and pour this in the initial ground seeds before placing in the fridge when it cools.

However what I have gotten from this approach is that I realize it doesn't fully make sense to do three half hour or one hour boils and strains, then keep the liquid in the fridge while separating the 'spent' seeds (which it turns out can sometimes still be quite active) and using them another time or just discarding which is a waste, or maybe using for incense.

So my method going forward is a combination which also saves time: One initial half hour simmer of ground seeds enough for several doses of tea (3g for one dose). When cooled this is then transferred to some glass jars with the seed residue placed inside.
This means that the brews will continue to get steadily more concentrated over time, and as I anyway partake only every week or so or every few days at the most, it works well and I will be getting stronger rue teas the longer I wait.

If one wants a stronger brew straight up, then a few boils and strains initially is still the way but it makes sense to put the seeds residue inside the jars when you store in the fridge so it continues to increase potency over time.

 

[Panpsychic]

So I tried this method for peganum harmala with CWE or basically cold brewed tea, ground up some Rue seeds and put them in a jar with some water and dash of vinegar to lower PH and reduce chance of mould growth, in the fridge, shaking every day.

It seems to work, but is very slow. You can tell the intensity of the brew and harmala concentration by the color with rue tea, and after a week it wasn't nearly as concentrated as a comparative tea that had been simmered once for just half an hour.

I think if one really has no time with a minimal approach, one may as well boil some water in the kettle and pour this in the initial ground seeds before placing in the fridge when it cools.

However what I have gotten from this approach is that I realize it doesn't fully make sense to do three half hour or one hour boils and strains, then keep the liquid in the fridge while separating the 'spent' seeds (which it turns out can sometimes still be quite active) and using them another time or just discarding which is a waste, or maybe using for incense.

So my method going forward is a combination which also saves time: One initial half hour simmer of ground seeds enough for several doses of tea (3g for one dose). When cooled this is then transferred to some glass jars with the seed residue placed inside.
This means that the brews will continue to get steadily more concentrated over time, and as I anyway partake only every week or so or every few days at the most, it works well and I will be getting stronger rue teas the longer I wait.

If one wants a stronger brew straight up, then a few boils and strains initially is still the way but it makes sense to put the seeds residue inside the jars when you store in the fridge so it continues to increase potency over time.

As I posted elsewhere the issue with this having further evaluated, is that leaving the seeds in the brew in the fridge leads to increased mould growth if its more than about a week. While simply letting it sit does eventually lead to some level of harmala extraction you need longer than this, so you are far better off and will get a much more concentrated brew just boiling the seeds for 3 x half an hour to an hour, then straining and leaving the brew in the fridge with a bit of lemon juice to lower PH.

So no lazy methods with Rue preparation, as with any spiritual endeavor and practice.