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"Sass - Organic Ecstacy" is Complete Bullshit

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The procedure I used for those experiments I outlined in my first set of posts in the thread On the Trail of Cinnamolaurine. I have experimentally eliminated the use of hydroxides as the base for extracting phenol-bearing alkaloids. Ammonia or sodium bicarbonate are the preferred bases for these compounds.

Recently I tried extracting alkaloids from sassafras root bark I obtained from a health food store. The base was sodium bicarbonate, the solvent was chloroform, the acid used to salt the alkaloids out was HCl, and the water was evaporated without heat, on a plate with a fan.

The yield from this extraction was good (it's not final yet, I have a couple more pulls to do), and the extract was nice and bitter, and absolutely not salty (tasted a <1mg dab). The yields seem already to be higher than with Limonene. I also threw in some toluene after several pulls had reduced the chloroform to a very small amount (it's pretty warm where I'm at). Salting out from toluene is slower but still effective. If I had added more chloroform, I am sure that the extraction would be done already! It's very effective as a solvent.

I will be tasting this extract at 250mg in a few days to see how effective it is. This will also help determine if health food store sassafras that I have available contains active alkaloids, or if they are deteriorated in some way.
 
My only experiences with "sassafras" has been alkaloids extracted from the sassafras root. Some time ago, the chemists doing the MDMA syntheses realized they could do an A/B/NP extraction from the leftover juice in their steam stills to produce an alkaloid extract with similar but much less intense effects as MDMA.

I have written about this material several times and generally been met with disbelief. Everyone thinks that the drug myths they've always believed ever since they were kids is true, and the idea that Sass=MDA is one of them. I have personally extracted and consumed this material, and I have received the identical material from others who have extracted it, and yes they called it Sassafras, because that's the plant it's extracted from.

The chemical proposed to be responsible for the effects of sassafras alkaloid extracts is cinnamolaurine. You can look it up, there's a wealth of info about it, although there is not a wealth on its pharmacology. I performed an experiment where I extracted alkaloids from two different species of cinnamon (which according to much literature, contains cinnamolaurine). The effects of these extracts were very similar to sassafras alkaloids. The differences can be explained by the different alkaloid profiles in each plant.
This is essentially what inspired me to collect the stem and branch bark from a sweet bay tree (Laurus nobilis) when the opportunity arose due to the tree getting pruned. There are some interesting alkaloids in bay bark. I've made a tincture from the bark and it has "a noticeable effect". One day I hope to be able to access sweet bay roots as well.

Please don't wantonly destroy sweet bay trees in the hope of getting high!
 

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