Schizophrenia - A Digital Computer made Virus

[KannaRas]

Well it took years
I got my answer
Proffing it seems pointless since much of the help Cleaning up the *Virus had come from here
I wish it could be hard proven and known and more people could be treated in a more chilled process
If anyone has the research docs or information about it thats published id like the read

Question is
Would people diagnosed with Schizophrenia learning Its a Digital made virus
would find a treatment helpful
or a gateway to lose all shits and the mind compeletly learning about its true nature

lots of thankses nexians some other IRC wizzards and lots of other things

 

[dragonrider]

Well it took years
I got my answer
Proffing it seems pointless since much of the help Cleaning up the *Virus had come from here
I wish it could be hard proven and known and more people could be treated in a more chilled process
If anyone has the research docs or information about it thats published id like the read

Question is
Would people diagnosed with Schizophrenia learning Its a Digital made virus
would find a treatment helpful
or a gateway to lose all shits and the mind compeletly learning about its true nature

lots of thankses nexians some other IRC wizzards and lots of other things

Have you been diagnosed with schizophrenia yourself?

 

[KannaRas]

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Have you been diagnosed with schizophrenia yourself?[/quote]

yea with diffrent kinds over the years
and other psychiatric curses aswell

what i would have to say aginst the current way they are treating people will hold no weight with my diagnosis and medical history book they compiled

i could be just imagining said topic has helped me cause i want to belive it did
yet to those concerned we know thats not the case

and to go against highly taught pill prescribers with my view of this
will just get me another round in the mad house


ive met lots of people who suffer from very similar conditions
of diffrent diagnosists

and i can say with clarity
the reason they were there is to be blamed far away from those paitents minds


i dont think really there is anything i can do
but the current system of depressing someone experiencing lets call it awakening of sleeping regions the mind

also when does telling someone he has an uncureable illment
can do any good ?
and how the hell could a doctor go and say mental illness is considered uncureable illness
when this is litterally not a physical condition

the finding that certien drugs can calm someone down and lower the speed in the mind
in no way means that mental illness is physical
it just means they can drug someone to act more chill...

also its quite clear they have no real knowledge or facts about
other then

weve had some rats in cages that were aggressive
and we gave them some pills that made the rats in cage act less hyper and aggressive
so we went on to develop second gen and third gen of mind duller from those substences
(a quote from a retired psychiatrist i met )

might be way off yet i find it quite easy to belive

since it is what they really want
their wards to not be a mad house where every one talk nonsese and shout all day
and have the sense to realise they are not really helping them
it just seem they want their work envierment to be *safe and quite
so those kind of pills and injections seem to work best


cursing us with psychiatric swear words
that they offer no real explanation about
other then imbalance of chemicals in the mind
and offer to be locked to pills or injections basicly for the rest of our lifes
to keep some arr receptors shut down

how does a highly trained psychiatrist find it good to curse people with psychiatrict made up conditions
unless hes goal is to depress the person and keep him on false sense hes unfit for this or that


no doctor ive met would ever even consider to say that he offers a proccess to progress and lay off those pills in the future , basicly saying this is no treatment


more then that when confronted with questions like
dont you think that shutting down some receptors with pills for years is more dangerous incase of unexpected cenereio where one would have no access to those pills
and then a psychosis is basiclly gaurenteed


they seem to break down and sparks shoot from the side of their brains
thinking of it now
maybe they're just afraid to answer something like
well were trying to kill those receptors in your mind and in a few years when parts of your mind would be declared unoperational you could probably take off the pills

i can think that
who would agree to take those pills then ?
i mean some would
there are people who find those treatment helpful and glad they exist
yet its quite easy to see why

some psychosis/mania/ect cases are real intense
and some wouldnt mind that idea just to avoid confronting it again
at the same time
its not like they have anything else on the menu to consider as treatment ...

and they cant go on being *insane and have a normal day job (if you see what i mean)
so these god damned adjusment facilitys offer the chance to kill the interesting parts of the mind so we could peacefully go back to work in the enviorment of *normal people

to think of an alternetive is not an easy task
yet some people end up litterally living in those places

i dont know how big the mind users community is
and even if there are people who could replace the existing system that exists of mental hospitals

yet if someone feels like going as an undercover psycho for some time in a mental hospital
i wonder what he would have to say
hell
i can even belive after enough time he would leave there unbalanced himself

ive been there enough times to say how real the systematiclly designed ways to get paitents to rage out to get increased dosages approved on them and the like

should i go and assume they want to see if the paitent is aggressive
nah ive witnessed that shit done on myself aswell
at the one time i went there on my own choice (meaning i could leave at any time)
They took it to a stupid level it was then too easy to see they were praying id slip so they could get approval to take that privilage away from me

and this is not the paranoid schitzo talking
you can go see for yarselves

theres even been one case where one fella who was with me that raged a bit too much at the nights and caused some trouble cause he was smokin inside that led to confrontation that eventually led to him being injected with some sedatives
and a day or 2 later he died


just to return to the nexus vibe for a moment here
how strange is it when someone loses their mind from mind altering substences
and then is suprised when all reality starts to drip and dizzle for weeks
is that not what youve signed up for ?
i mean yea recreational purposes at times for sure
but dont ya know ?
is what i always try to think

seems like in alot of those cases really
the people who experienced it dont really care about the wild long trip that opened up
as they say and i can attest to some of mine
were filled with energy blissful feelings and lots of funny madness
and only sees it as a bad experience after doctors & people gather to explain how unfit for their view of the world that insanity was

not to generalise all cases
some people do get violent and aggressive to a point action need be taken

yet ive met more then few cases of litterlly the persons just were talking nonsense and madness that seemed unfit for the people around them

and then these god damned psychaietrists
for some reason have the right to charge their insane rates
just to give prescriptions to higher shelve drugs ?
cause what ? they spent lots of time learning what ?
to offer a diffrent pill incase of side effects ?
most pharmasicts know the side effects of most pills aswell ,,
i doubt they are being payed the hourly rate psychiatrists do


i might be babbling unrelated nonsense now
this topic enrages me


feels like if i go in my past posts ill probably find the exact post im writing right now

everything has this touch of dejavu recently very strange sometimes i get this new kind of dejavu where i recall i dreamt it happening
aye is that what dejavu means ?

in this case this probably isnt a dejavu i must of written this befor
cause i simply cant release from this rrrr thats going on on those ward camps

 

[dragonrider]

What makes you feel better then?

I don't realy know that much about schizophrenia, but being outside in nature always makes me feel good. Even when it's cold and rainy.

 

[KannaRas]

What makes you feel better then?

I don't realy know that much about schizophrenia, but being outside in nature always makes me feel good. Even when it's cold and rainy.

mixing things up here
going for a walk in nature
or something of the sorts
is personal to the person and hes activities that he likes that makes him feel better

about schizophrenia
first of all the realisation that its not all just nonsense and madness and imaginary things cooked up in someones or my own mind
is a step taken to develop techniques and progress with dealing with this condition

to go on about my own madness what ive found and on would be a problem to write

what im on about here
is how the current way of dealing with this by white coats
with the usual interrogation list of questions
that try to get you into a trip to their labs

and the no no you are insane
take this pill go away
and return when youve learned not to talk about this kind off stuff with us white coats

in a way its possible to look at it like
paitent talks with whitecoat about this or that madness
whitecoat laughs that paitent is stupid enough to tell him about the madness
realising he must be insane to talking about it with him (unless its a first timer)
-so then he opens up the whitecoats betting tables on a new paitent

whitecoat sends paitent to labs for a round for paitent to learn -
that whitecoats has no idea at all about this kind of issues and all they can offer is
no you are insane dont talk about it come back next week and take pills
and see if your mind had stopped workin
then literrally for a week or 2 you just sit take pills just to return for a few minutes
for a check up to see if you still think they can really do anything to help
or if youve practiced enough your sanity check questions to get the hell out of the place

now i am saying this because even if 90% of my own experience and madness with schizophrenia is based off nothing related to reality

the lack of any kind of techniques or options to deal and work on anything other then
lets up your dosage
should be insulting to practitioners who title themselves doctors in the field of mind

and from my own view its more like 10% is based off of madness and the rest fills into real peices that has real connections and ways to integrate and improve

then those places where people litterally just sit and have 30 min disscussion once a week or 2 some not even that
or people just waiting on sanity checks that come every 2-4-8 weeks to get a chance to get the hell out of there
as places that title themselves treating mental paitents
should be burnt down to the ground
and every one working there that had not once filled any kind of report that said place has nothing to do with treating people should have any kind of related title revoked and banned from working with people


in another way to look at it
it could be renamed Escape room - belivers
where people who belive strange things
from imaginary creative people up to religious people
would be locked inside
and every other week they would be asked questions about what they belive
and untill they pass a complete the questioneer atheist set of mind they wont be released

just added this part cause i recalled when my personal doc prepered with me that even answering to the sanity check board session to a question like
do you belive in god , with Yes could cancle my release chance

 

[dragonrider]

Well this is a difficult topic and i'm no expert, so i don't think i could offer any sound advice on how to deal with your illness.

What i do know is that schizophrenia is a realy terrible illness that causes people to suffer an awfull lot. And that as far as i'm aware, there is no treatment for it, that completely ignores the factor of brain-chemistry. So succesfull forms of treatment that focus on cognitive therapy only, do not seem to exist.

Most anti-psychotic drugs are know to have a lot of nasty side-effects. But if people have been treated succesfully, they often do not have to take these drugs all the time for the rest of their lives.

Often, they can go without these drugs for most of the time, and they should just be realy carefull and vigilant, and when there are signals that a psychotic episode is on the way, they start taking them again for a while untill the symptoms are gone again.

That does seem to work for a lot of people, and because of this, many people with schizophrenia can even have a completely normal life with normal jobs, and sometimes even succesfull careers, if that is important to them.

The reason i mentioned being outside in nature, is because physical activity in nature is not just something that feels good, but it also seems to have a positive effect on brain-chemistry, and therefore it could help against the side-effects of drugs and it could also help people recover more quickly so that they can take less drugs, or quit them sooner.

I wish you the very best.

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

Kanna - I would not have ever believed you to be "schizophrenic." You always have seemed like a mystic that has a beautiful imagination.


When I was in a car accident, there was brain damage and disruption between the synapses of the "left" and "right" halves of the brain. This was difficult to handle, for a while. I would have no idea why some things seemed totally clear - while other times it was total inability to articulate and relate to the world around me.

So they said, "well maybe this is 'that' or 'that' or 'this'?" Nope, nope, and nope.

I cannot be certain, but I wonder if the neurogenesis that can be induced from the consumption of psychedelics helped "bridge" some of the damaged connections.

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Bear in mind, these are not "credited" sources. But, maybe they can point you in the right direction to explore this idea?

I'm not schizophrenic - that I am aware of! If so, i guess we don't let ourselves know... jkjkjk

But, I did have schizophrenic symptoms for a while. They never showed me the most recent images of the MRI, but they didn't mention any consideration of schizophrenia and said that my brain was relatively "normal." :lol:


But, I did use WAY TOO many psychedelics between the different MRI images. Maybe that caused new growth and bridging? I dunno. I would not recommend trying it unless you're willing to potentially go "crazy."

I still have difficulty being able to find the best way to articulate an idea to others in a conversation. In text, I can filter my thoughts and edit as needed. IRL - you get what ever comes out of my mouth and I am often just as surprised as the person who hears it. Lol! It's nothing wild - just a sense of impulsive speaking without taking the time to make sure the thoughts are bridged and turned to words. It's more like - rapid fire. I'm getting better, though. Allowing a little time to reply and consciously being aware of my thoughts has helped.

I feel like this has improved over the past 5 years. (Or gotten worse!!!! Hahahahaa)

What if - you are a visionary? And the reason you have your experiences as such is due to being tied into the cosmic weirdness?

But, i am no doctor. So, I do not recommend taking my words as truth.

Did you ever suffer any extreme head trauma?

IF it is a *virus type thingy - then maybe I can help?

You'd have to describe the symptoms that are most troubling and give me a few days. It'll take me some time to put my mind-set into your described "symptoms" and then see if there is anything that I can help with. Usually 3 days is needed - for me.

I function in an odd way. If it's something beyond that - then I will do what I can; but no guarantee. I do most of the work in dreams. But, during the day I have to "become" the symptom so that I can "lure" it into my dreams.

Anyways.

I hope you find some relief.

ACY


If you wanna do it yourself, then use the hatchet, the mallet, and the blade. You know the deal.

 

[KannaRas]

it seems schizophrenic is just a code word doctors use when they need to shut someone up
and make him worry about speaking on certen subjects

luckly a friend ive met in south africa befor i was about to go for my first round at the mad house
introduced me to tree resin and told me about how it can restore old memories
now i realise that it was not related just to how certen smells can trigger some old power lines in the mind

she knew about how burnt resins are offering to spirits
and many times when i would throw some crushed resin powders on coals i would think of that
bringing in that intent

one night i was outside playing some guitar for the trees and doing some drumming on it to
go into a higher state

as i sort of drifted out , not to the point whered id partly see spirits
tho to some kind of higher state

then i closed my eyes for a moment cant really say how long you know time
time left for a vacation back then
this was a few months ago i think i had disscussion on it on chat

it was like i was sleeping and i got woken up with smelling salts
as if by a spirit or ?
that smell was something else

after that i kept hitting the strings looking around as if my mind was completly blank
till max shows up (one of the dogs who lives in my house) standing infront of me strangly i dident recognize him at the moment there

it was one of those launch moments i recall from LSD trips where nothing exists but the moment itself everything past as if never been

then i look at this gray hound staring at me while i sit by some trees hitting the guitar
no idea whats going on as i start to realise thats max i know him and he wants to go back to the house
tho in that moment that dog was an alien who followed the sounds to me and that house was a figment of hes imagination or something like that

that dog is partly jedi he plays mind tricks on me all the time im sure of it since then

i drifted on this wave to far yea then followed from there

lots and lots of old memories leading me again to the same realisation that always slipped from me
them damn whitecoats

im not insane
this shit is more real than anything or anyone i ever saw in this damned country

and even if by any chance they ment good and to play the heyoka's and be arr no your just crazy haha spirits and belif in the unknown haha

they went a bit far and brought in too much brain washing mechanizems

how does involvment of the digital play part of it ?
must be the 2019 fix they released Anti virus for the mind
Install for the removal of eye-mosquito's who dug up into brain
and send em flying into the zapper
must of been waiting on this update for 18 years
cant really tell

ever noticed how fly's seems to be present every time the thougt line start to drift into negative places ?

one night i had the a strange dream i remember waking up in a rage punching the air and a fly got zapped a second after

might be connecting strange things here
life is getting stranger every night
or im just starting/returning to notice it




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But, I did use WAY TOO many psychedelics between the different MRI images. Maybe that caused new growth and bridging? I dunno. I would not recommend trying it unless you're willing to potentially go "crazy."
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could be
theres some wacky flow in the mind while on psychadelics
wouldnt be hard to imagine that old broken unpassable roads in the mind can get replaced
with psych trips the mind would be more creative and build new roads to places
i can see that



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Allowing a little time to reply and consciously being aware of my thoughts has helped.

I feel like this has improved over the past 5 years. (Or gotten worse!!!! Hahahahaa)
--
nothing suprising there
got to get mind into idea's mode chill or such

----
What if - you are a visionary? And the reason you have your experiences as such is due to being tied into the cosmic weirdness?

But, i am no doctor. So, I do not recommend taking my words as truth.

Did you ever suffer any extreme head trauma?
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not really
one day i got knocked to the ground by a flying Barbary fig leaf to my head , calling it a leaf is strange
it was without the spikes luckly :d

first time i got to madhouse was litterally because i was talking about strange stuff nonstop
was lots of cosmic weirdness back then
in most cases is not enough to take someone in there
so they had to use the he could be dangerous to himself card to bring get me inside


Thanks for offering again ACY
Its being going better

i think i know the deal not too sure honestly
if it comes to that ill try again without really knowing what im doing
things work alot better like that some times
or ill talk with ya

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[KannaRas]

just some flying toughts and worrying things

Syncronicity ?
Technology ?
The force ?
Spirits ?

as an example
Imagine your walking down a busy street
theres talking all around
you lose focus to gain focus and as you walk down the street you notice a conversation flowing
as if your not moving at all its just a few people talking but as you are moving
and it is other people talking other voices but still all mixing to the same thing
how would you look at it ?

is my mind playing tricks on me listening to what i want to hear to create this dialog between all the words flowing around ?
that would be possible for the first few times to think its the case

Syncronicity ?
is walking around aimlessly without a place in mind or a time to reach somewhere looking there or there letting signs lead your walk left right stight back
bring on this syncronicity to life making it flow so well its damn scary ?

Technology ?
Have i missed the grand opening of future cybernetics implants and the infection of an AI consiousness taking over people's minds and this thing is playing tricks trying to drive me crazy with how big bandwith it has to create such connection in all its implants around?

The force ?
Maybe the earth itself is a living organizm from the wind down to the mind of every living thinkin moving creature
tho that would have to include the idea that like a human body some cells are deeply sick
attacking eachother
or maybe in a less disturbing view
pushing cells humans animals insects towards their place in the organs of the earth itself
in ways its hard to comprheand in a baseline tought of encounters and experiences

then as a living thing earth's could of been travellin in some strange places in space
doing lots of cocaine and eating junk food that damaged its spiritual capabilitys bringing in the deeply material down to allmost only physical belif system in most of its parts causing imbalances in the system and lots of cells losing connection and sense and downright
to attacking their own host

:d aliens around have space map to space hospital ?
could be the earth has the location tho space rockets are no longer working
i think the psytrance aliens had created a replacment system
they just need a location to set up the boxs and prepell us in the right direction with soundwaves
(space boosters replacement design picture will be added)

Spirits ?
Down the more fantasy road of looking at things possesions and spirits having power to jump consiousnesses around on people ?
would be a bit more interesting way to look at things rather then agent smith's body hopping
by cybernetic that would lead to the disturbing idea of how technology can physiclly enslave every one around to their bidding

or maybe theres a clash of too many of these things working all together at the same time
or is this just a case of well its how you choose to look at things change your point of view to make your experience of the madness better ?
rather much understand whats going on befor i decide how i want to look at things

are we powerless to act and just focus on the view that would lead us for the ride we have
to be the most enjoyable for us ?

are most people just way too much pumped on meat cocaine or what ever it is that makes em way way too much grounded to a point its impossible to even notice any sign of the spiritual flow that should possibly play a much bigger part
or the logical reason that people dont really know too much
and influencing someone with their toughts in this day and age
is more likely to disturb the view one will come to find fitting
then assist on the understanding one would land on
is why this discussions are avoided by most

like a random video i saw on youtube where someone was saying
well just because Trump said it dosn't mean its a bad idea
but its not far off that Idea's brought on to someone by someone whos untrusted by him
would make that idea lose lots of cred just by the association of where that idea came from

the resarch offices of manipulation and distraction from truth
sure has lots of funding you know what i mean ?

as i have taken a part of some digital nightmare specials
its not hard for me to understand how the digital can have so much power on the mind
specially when your fixated on a movie or a screen for hours with sounds and colors flashing your system

but at the same time ive also been hypnotised by a tree who showed me just as strange as stuff as the digital world



flying trough space are we ?
maybe we can outrun some sattelites and see if some people get their minds back
or just shut down in the middle of the street
that would be an interesting experiment

 

[KannaRas]

Taking into point that with technology exists the ability to lets say clean up a mind voices clutter

Should it not lead to assume its technology that caused it in the first place ?

then would it not be of reason to realise how far this technology can go and how easily it can be used to send someone to visit the mental labs

assuming this is technology how portable would you think it is ?

can bluetooth or wifi hot spots or w/e hit brain signals to light up wanted electrical currets in some one's mind

or like in ment in my location details - 50Hz
electrical lines running all around where people are living generating this/that state of mind for the people living around it ?


that would lead up to how far of research has been done in this field ?
and at the same time answer how to get test subjects

altough to assume right away its by ill intent can be wrong
can also think *well lets see who's minds electrical currets are still functioning
and not cluttered and broken by the posioned food and water all around
by sparking some electrical data in the air


tho who and how and what is using it
or better to question who or who's


toughts create reality , they say that alot
can see it in action really

but then again are we in a point in time where technology stands that someone can still trust hes own toughts ?

think - create - see it - then question if the original tought is of your own
Clairvoyance ? i doubt it
tought inceptions leading to physical event
sounds more like a script , not meaning a computer one - tho i does seem to fit in with the idea

could then unexplained violent events or self harm be blamed on technology
could one day this get so far sort of like epilepsy warning befor a long movie
the epilepsy warning would also include -you are about to see a 2 hour long movie
that with cutting edge technology of colors data transfer cause you to go into a blind rage
at the sight of ???? in the future

ofc people are still people and should all have self control of themselves no matter the case

though damn how far technology is rocketing up to levels its hard to comphreand
where are these questions ?

manchurian and clockwork movies are real old
how far could it have gone since

should it not be of reason to think this
when its pretty common these days to sit and binge an entire tv show of many hours

where you got all neccecery effects to program minds by creating event - pulling said emotion - combining with sounds

then wouldnt it be possible by said
hey have you watched ??? series oh yea ofc saw all of it
leading to ok then this sounds these colors these what ever can bring these reactions out of a person

i might be heading a bit far off on how much this can effect people
though am i ?

in these days where control means everything
wouldnt it be a top requested research subject ?

- send someone to spark talk about the movie idiocracy in the office
-- why sir what now
- i want to replace all water lines with cola without any ressistence
-- right away boss

or something like that ya know

am i gonna get a pass this year at paranoia ?
cant fail paranoia again i hate paranoia classes
what do you think ?

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

Much love to you, my friend.

 

[BundleflowerPower]

Have you ever gotten into mythology?

When I awakened spiritually, I had some schizophrenic like experiences. When I started to learn about mythology I realized that I’m on a hero’s journey. Just reading about the gods and goddesses, somehow the schizophrenic seeming parts of my being began to be mapped onto a mythological view of the world and cleared many things up for me.