Second Pull. Help please!

[wittykitty]

Am confused as to what steps to do for the second pull after the very first. I did my second pull and got a yellow oil waxy glob in the middle of my crystallization dish.

I did the very basic extraction method. Crock-Pot, sodium hydroxide etc.

Note: I do not strain my powder into a tincture. This has worked beautifully in the past and worked great for the first pull this time but I haven't done it in so long that I forgot what to do in the second pull.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Voidmatrix]

Can you elaborate more on the details of your process? Is this Gordo's tek?

From the bit of information you've shared, it appears that you may have pulls a some DMT that is in a gooey phase or you pulled more plant fats, oils, and potentially some of the soup. Fortunately, there's nothing to worry about. Re-xing or mini A/B.

It would also be helpful if you could provide some pictures.

One love

 

[Qoniaq]

what are you using to do the actual pull? Naphta? How long are you leaving the spice in the base before adding your naphta and how long are you leaving the naphta in?
Any chance you got some of the aqueous base in your pipette when you sucked the naphta out?
I usually do the 1st pull, put it in a pyrex, bash it in the deep freeze, and add another 150ml of naphta into the earlenmeyer flask. shake it up every 4-5 hours for a day, let it sit for at least 8 hours to settle and pull that. rinse and repeat...
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[Qoniaq]

Don't know if your post affected me, here are the pics from my latest batch: on the right, pull 1...on the left, pull 2 ! WTH??? HAHAHAHAH never had this obvious a difference before!!! My word. What's going on????

 

[brettsta]

View attachment 111199Don't know if your post affected me, here are the pics from my latest batch: on the right, pull 1...on the left, pull 2 ! WTH??? HAHAHAHAH never had this obvious a difference before!!! My word. What's going on????

Yes your process is same as mine and , the second pull is always more yellow , I mix them both together in the end .
But I got to admit that is quite the colour change , you must of adjitated the second one much more, than the initial pull , mine gets yellower and yellower the more pulls and the more I shake it , untill it starts looking gloopy where I stop .

Good result though I would be pleased , should last a while

 

[Qoniaq]

Yes your process is same as mine and , the second pull is always more yellow , I mix them both together in the end .
But I got to admit that is quite the colour change , you must of adjitated the second one much more, than the initial pull , mine gets yellower and yellower the more pulls and the more I shake it , untill it starts looking gloopy where I stop .

Good result though I would be pleased , should last a while

in all my years, over i dont know how many batches..this is legit the 1st time I ever have such a disparity. pull 2 looks like a tired pull 5...hahha. but pull 1 came out lovely, no? looks like freshly fallen snow....
An extraction run lasts me pretty much one month of daily sessions. I do about one extract run a month, give or take..i get 20-25 or so sessions per 700ml cart

 

[brettsta]

Interesting, So you do daily ? Are we talking going deep , post breakthroughs ? Or sub ,

 

[Qoniaq]

Interesting, So you do daily ? Are we talking going deep , post breakthroughs ? Or sub ,

My 'morning gym' sessions are juuuust at the edge of breakthrough. I usually do 2 x 10secs on a 700mg cart, then do 5-6 second top ups to hover in the level I want. My calculations are that I average 1mg per second inhale.
I do full run voyages about once per 2 weeks or so. depending. 3 X 12-15 secs. I prefer sitter when I go deep, so it depends on my trip buddy. I do my daily sessions alone. early morning, like 0530 till 0600-0615
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[brettsta]

I've been under my own impression that everyday probably isn't a good idea .
That's because in my world apart from outside at the woods , there was no such thing as a
sub breakthrough on purpose, that was a failure in my book , and i would go again next night .
And the thought of doing that everyday is unimaginable.

Before coming to nexus , it was just me , in my own bubble , just my dogs as a trip sitter to watch over me .
i got a lot of "head" mates but no one who has done DMT .

I live with this altered ego , where I'm a record shop owner by day and a psychonaut at night .

I'm now beginning to see maybe the sub breakthrough has its own merits , and it appears that some people who Say they do dmt , infact only sub breakthrough.

I get the impression like myself you also venture where many fear to tread .
I think I will start having a light loaded vape around , for when the moment calls , I'll give it a go .

 

[Qoniaq]

I've been under my own impression that everyday probably isn't a good idea .
That's because in my world apart from outside at the woods , there was no such thing as a
sub breakthrough on purpose, that was a failure in my book , and i would go again next night .
And the thought of doing that everyday is unimaginable.

Before coming to nexus , it was just me , in my own bubble , just my dogs as a trip sitter to watch over me .
i got a lot of "head" mates but no one who has done DMT .

I live with this altered ego , where I'm a record shop owner by day and a psychonaut at night .

I'm now beginning to see maybe the sub breakthrough has its own merits , and it appears that some people who Say they do dmt , infact only sub breakthrough.

I get the impression like myself you also venture where many fear to tread .
I think I will start having a light loaded vape around , for when the moment calls , I'll give it a go .

ooohhh...we should chat vinyl!! I am a collector indeed!!!..
I use the daily sessions as a meditation aid. over time my doses have lowered, and even sober, when I sit, I can now get about 75% of the way there with nothing.
I take just enough to get the deepest, calmest meditative states. breathing slows way down, body fades into optional status. I retain just enough agency to navigate, and hover just close enough so I can really focus on state, rather than spectacle. in this state, I practice transitioning in and out of deeper (or higher. depending on your preference) levels. this daliy practice has allowed my full blown excursions to be much more easily accessed, with much less time spent in Transitional zones, less pre flight stress, quicker claming of the nervous system during transit..stuff like that.
if you do a 30-50% break through dose, with music playing, and a sitter or whatever, and open your eyes cause its 'not working'..its annoying...I find it just feels like coming down from mushrooms. BUT, if you do low dose like that, lie down, meditate, breathe, focus...it is glorious. its another regime completely. not jittery like when you think you failed. its its own thing. calm. vast. no 3d explosive visuals. usually no narrative. just the sort of calm tail you get after a big trip. that breath hold of the spirit..it gives me tremendous energy for the day, I do a deeper stretch after, and feel renewed..

 

[Voidmatrix]

I'm now beginning to see maybe the sub breakthrough has its own merits

Every level has something for you, even purely somatic experiences, you just gotta know how to "see" it.

I often like getting just to the "veil" and then immersing myself in that. It's peaceful, nice, meditative, rejuvenating...

One love

 

[Qoniaq]

Yes your process is same as mine and , the second pull is always more yellow , I mix them both together in the end .
But I got to admit that is quite the colour change , you must of adjitated the second one much more, than the initial pull , mine gets yellower and yellower the more pulls and the more I shake it , untill it starts looking gloopy where I stop .

Good result though I would be pleased , should last a while

Got .682g of the white from pull one and a surprising .691g of the yellow from pull 2. so almost 1.4g from 2 pulls. made a cart from each. the yellow tastes great! deep deep.flavour that i live and the test hit...well..it hit! so...nice! P3 is drying and P4 is in the freezer...we shall see..

 

[brettsta]

Got .682g of the white from pull one and a surprising .691g of the yellow from pull 2. so almost 1.4g from 2 pulls. made a cart from each. the yellow tastes great! deep deep.flavour that i live and the test hit...well..it hit! so...nice! P3 is drying and P4 is in the freezer...we shall see..

Yeah that's a great result , fukin beautiful init

 

[brettsta]

ooohhh...we should chat vinyl!! I am a collector indeed!!!..
I use the daily sessions as a meditation aid. over time my doses have lowered, and even sober, when I sit, I can now get about 75% of the way there with nothing.
I take just enough to get the deepest, calmest meditative states. breathing slows way down, body fades into optional status. I retain just enough agency to navigate, and hover just close enough so I can really focus on state, rather than spectacle. in this state, I practice transitioning in and out of deeper (or higher. depending on your preference) levels. this daliy practice has allowed my full blown excursions to be much more easily accessed, with much less time spent in Transitional zones, less pre flight stress, quicker claming of the nervous system during transit..stuff like that.
if you do a 30-50% break through dose, with music playing, and a sitter or whatever, and open your eyes cause its 'not working'..its annoying...I find it just feels like coming down from mushrooms. BUT, if you do low dose like that, lie down, meditate, breathe, focus...it is glorious. its another regime completely. not jittery like when you think you failed. its its own thing. calm. vast. no 3d explosive visuals. usually no narrative. just the sort of calm tail you get after a big trip. that breath hold of the spirit..it gives me tremendous energy for the day, I do a deeper stretch after, and feel renewed..

Yes my breath work I use before is extremely effective, it's a must before any journey.

As I start my journey through the sub breakthrough stage, I'm in the in-between world , half in there world and half in mine , and my imagination is running wild , to much information !! this is what I don't like and the quicker I get through to the breakthrough the better .

But in the spring , in June I go to meet the fox gloves in the woods , a sub breakthrough here is perfect , it's incredible I sit amongst the foxgloves with the bumble bees .


Yeah I can chat vinyl to the cows come home !!