smoked dmt

[SnozzleBerry]

possiblly different tec with other variables such as time and temp. Im not sure like I said im no chemist only speaking from experience

The tek should not matter as neither time exposed to the basified solution nor temperature should have any effect on what you are claiming. Essentially, imo, you burned your spice, got throat irritation, and are now making ridiculous accusations about too much naoh making super alkaline spice or degrading your spice. Again, I say this is not true, I don't care what your opinion is if you have no real evidence to support it. It is common knowledge that you can shoot the pH to the moon on the basification step of a dmt extraction as the molecule can withstand it just fine. You claim to be a knowledgeable and trustworthy spirit something-or-other in another thread, yet you don't even know the most rudimentary aspects of the simple extraction that yields the molecule you are introducing others to. Do you see nothing wrong with this???

 

[finding0]

I work with ayahuasca much more the extracted dmt. Agian im not very science savy.And for the throat thing. I havnt smoked dmt is 6 moths and its still there and still bleeds and a doctor comirmed it as alkaline exposure

 

[RigelL]

I´m not a scientist either but maybe you´ve done a sloppy extraction and you pulled some of your basified solution along with the naphta. It is the only way to get alcaline burn when smoking DMT. Lye is NOT soluble in a non polar solvent and you can really basify all you like ( my solutions always go pH 13+) that it will not affect the pH of your freebase. You can spin this all you like but SnozzleBerry is right.

 

[finding0]

http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals-cactus-misc-entheogens-psychedelics/42118-dmt-extraction-tek-no-use-lye-read.html

Here it talks about high ph destroying dmt, there are some other post around on the web to. And no I was very careful with my seperation

 

[mandelbrot]

I´m not a scientist either but maybe you´ve done a sloppy extraction and you pulled some of your basified solution along with the naphta.

Even so, you'd have to be either not reading a tek, mentally retarded, or actually be a wolf to somehow smoke some basic solution.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals-cactus-misc-entheogens-psychedelics/42118-dmt-extraction-tek-no-use-lye-read.html

Here it talks about high ph destroying dmt, there are some other post around on the web to. And no I was very careful with my seperation

1. This is not a valid source.
2. Who the hell is this guy?
3. Did you even bother to read the article??? He gives no evidence whatsoever to support his claims. Please, find a legitimate, sceintific source if you're going to attempt to disprove something considered common knowledge here.
4. I'm sure there are literally droves of people on the nexus with the same sort of anecdotal evidence showing the exact opposite of what this guy is claiming.

 

[finding0]

I did some thinking. With support of my theory on dmt deteriation subjected to high ph. Maybe the fat was braught to a very high ph and the dmt being in it for a ong time was destroyed. My first time of doing an extraction I didnt defat it. it worked for a few weeks but then stopped working.

 

[finding0]

Idk, im not saying i am not wrong

 

[SnozzleBerry]

I did some thinking. With support of my theory on dmt deteriation subjected to high ph. Maybe the fat was braught to a very high ph and the dmt being in it for a ong time was destroyed. My first time of doing an extraction I didnt defat it. it worked for a few weeks but then stopped working.

This is gibberish. If you did a mhrb extraction, a defat is completely unnecessary. Are you claiming that because you didn't do a defat, your spice worked fine for a while and then magically stopped working?

 

[finding0]

Im making no claims but hypothasis. But yes my dmt did randomly stop working for me and others. Never been able to figure out why

 

[SnozzleBerry]

Im making no claims but hypothasis. But yes my dmt did randomly stop working for me and others. Never been able to figure out why

Well, a hypothesis implies that you are making an "educated guess" or a guess based on some piece of factual information/evidence. So I ask you, what is the inspiration for your hypothesis?

 

[RigelL]

I have just read it! LOL is what comes to mind.:lol:

Gonna leave this for the chemist in here... but leave also this for finding to reply. If high pH destroys or "contaminates" DMT, how do you explain this:
- i use NaOH in it´s purest form, straight out of the pharmacy
- my solutions as said above are always pH 13 up ( my pH meter only measures acuratelly untill 13)
- both my last 2 extractions i got a yield above 2%

According to that link i should have never had any kind of DMT. Either that or i´m also suffering from accute burns in my throat and i still dunno about it.
Also if you read the posts that reply to your link you see what the ppl there think about it. It´s not only here in the Nexus...

 

[Bill Cipher]

I'm telling you all, this guy is bad juju - has no idea what the hell he's talking about (and yet somehow speaks with authority), and sees it as his personal mission to dose up people en masse.

That's a very dangerous combination. He should not be here, IMO.

 

[finding0]

the hypothasis is based on experience. But obviously im wrong if people feel so strongly to show hostility.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

the hypothasis is based on experience. But obviously im wrong if people feel so strongly to show hostility.

I think you're missing the point. People are showing hostility because your "hypothesis" isn't based on any chemical mechanisms. It isn't based on any physiological mechanisms. It's half-assed conjecture at best. If you're going to make assertions, you better damn well be ready to beack them up. Additionally the hostility comes because you claimed to be "so knowledgeable" about this molecule and the risks of dosing tons of people, but you clearly do not have even the slightest inkling of what you are getting yourself and others into. Again, you don't even know the most basic principles of an incredibly simple extraction procedure.

 

[finding0]

Knowing how the procedure of extraction works and the love an wisdom that dmt holds are to complety different things. Extracted dmt is rarely used for wolfs students and is 90% ayahuasca. 1000's of years ago there was not even a name of dmt yet people used it for healing, love and wisdom as I do. Now why woud it be needed knowledge to help guid others?

 

[gibran2]

I work with ayahuasca much more the extracted dmt. Agian im not very science savy.And for the throat thing. I havnt smoked dmt is 6 moths and its still there and still bleeds and a doctor comirmed it as alkaline exposure

So explain to us how a doctor could diagnose bleeding in someone’s throat as “alkaline exposure”, especially 6 months after the alleged exposure. A legitimate physician might be able to diagnose a chemical burn soon after an exposure, but there is no test that, 6 months after exposure, leads to a diagnosis of “alkaline exposure”.

And by the way, if you’ve had bleeding in your throat for 6+ months, you should really get that checked out by a legitimate medical professional. It could be something serious.

 

[finding0]

I when to the doctor as soon as I relised the throat was heaviy messed up. I told him what I did and he told me it was alkaline exposure. I have not smoke for 6 months since then and it is stil there. It bleeds when i caugh or vomit and there is nothing that can be done says doctors

 

[gibran2]

Knowing how the procedure of extraction works and the love an wisdom that dmt holds are to complety different things. Extracted dmt is rarely used for wolfs students and is 90% ayahuasca. 1000's of years ago there was not even a name of dmt yet people used it for healing, love and wisdom as I do. Now why woud it be needed knowledge to help guid others?

According to your own statements, your lack of knowledge has led to chronic bleeding in your throat as a result of “alkaline exposure”. If your lack of knowledge has caused such a problem to yourself, it’s not too hard to imagine that it could cause equal or greater harm to others.

 

[finding0]

It only happened from the first time. There have been many pulls since with pure safe crystal.