whats the point of the ash on top? also, this may be stupid, but how exactly do you smoke it? i really want this to work out for my friend. hold the flame away so it melts into the ash, once its melted do you still have to keep the flame away? or do you now "smoke the ash" ?
-
Members of the previous forum can retrieve their temporary password here, (login and check your PM).
smoking spice
- Thread starter asdfasdf
- Start date
You're not actually smoking the ash. The point of putting the ash on top is so that you don't burn or waste any of the spice in the bowl. The goal is to vaporize the spice by heating it up, keeping the flame away. The best method would be to purchase a Glass Vapor Genie (GVG). That would get you the best results. The advantage to the glass one (which is more expensive) over the wooden ones is that you can see the vapor fill so you know exactly when to clear it. I also think it might be bigger, but don't quote me on that 
gobalswg said:You're not actually smoking the ash. The point of putting the ash on top is so that you don't burn or waste any of the spice in the bowl. The goal is to vaporize the spice by heating it up, keeping the flame away. The best method would be to purchase a Glass Vapor Genie (GVG). That would get you the best results. The advantage to the glass one (which is more expensive) over the wooden ones is that you can see the vapor fill so you know exactly when to clear it. I also think it might be bigger, but don't quote me on that
I use a GVG, but have never used the wooden one. I have held both in my hand though and will say that the GVG is a little longer, and the GVG also holds a larger volume of smoke inside the stem as well.
i dont ask for myself, swim is giving it to friends, and wants to let them know how to ues it, not tell them where to buy a 50 dollar pipe. isnt keeping the flame away enough to protect it? how is a thin layer of somthing so fine like ash going to protect it anymore? also, ash as in, just tapped off a cigarette, or smashed a little to not be so airy? thanks all.
It's a $100 pipe. Yes it's bigger than the wooden ones, and it's the best tool for the job by a considerable margin.
The real question is what are you doing "giving" spice away if you a) haven't even tried it yourself, or b) don't know how to use it?
Don't be cavalier with this stuff. Don't give it away indiscriminately and don't ever, ever sell it.
The real question is what are you doing "giving" spice away if you a) haven't even tried it yourself, or b) don't know how to use it?
Don't be cavalier with this stuff. Don't give it away indiscriminately and don't ever, ever sell it.
Strange Gray Static Mayan Pattern
Nameless
Keeping the flame away is a bit tricky. I use a method that works for me just fine. I use a regular glass/acrylic pipe, put in the bowl 2 screens, ashes mixed with DMT, another screen, and smoke with the flame almost touching the upper screen.
I also heat the upper screen a bit with the lighter before hitting, otherwise the first hit is mostly a dud. Broken through without problem with 30mg.
I also heat the upper screen a bit with the lighter before hitting, otherwise the first hit is mostly a dud. Broken through without problem with 30mg.
Uncle Knucles said:
if you want to wag your finger at me, at least answer my question as well. why is "giving" in quotation marks? you assume im lying? i know how to use it other ways, just not this one in particular. and why does it matter if ive used it or not? and the people im giving it to have used it before. you made yourself look very ignorant, in my opinion.
no need for personal attacking here, read the attitude section please.
Art has a good point I must say. If you havent smoked dmt, then you'll not realize from personal experience just how completely life-transforming this experience can be. You will also most likely not be able to realize the fine details and personality traces that one needs to perceive when making the judgement whether its a good idea to give dmt to a specific person or not.
When you give such substances away, you are significantly responsible for it, you are connected to the experience the person will have. What if the person completely freaks out, like it has happened before, and cant integrate the experience? How could you, who havent even tried it, help this person? Please reconsider your position
and also read the Health and Safety section
Art has a good point I must say. If you havent smoked dmt, then you'll not realize from personal experience just how completely life-transforming this experience can be. You will also most likely not be able to realize the fine details and personality traces that one needs to perceive when making the judgement whether its a good idea to give dmt to a specific person or not.
When you give such substances away, you are significantly responsible for it, you are connected to the experience the person will have. What if the person completely freaks out, like it has happened before, and cant integrate the experience? How could you, who havent even tried it, help this person? Please reconsider your position
and also read the Health and Safety section
I didn't answer your question because I thought it was inappropriate, and I wagged my finger for exactly the reasons that Endlessness mentions above. I put "giving" in quotation marks because it sounded like a question that someone extracting for profit would ask. If this isn't the case, I'm glad to know it - but your overall message is still shifty.
To all who are new to this wondrous substance and have thoughts of sharing with others, I urge you to consider the following with all due seriousness beforehand:
You alone are responsible for every grain of spice you extract. Every person you introduce it to is now your responsibility. For however long they continue to use it, for whatever integration issues pop up later in their lives, for whoever they in turn introduce - it's all now on you, dorm room shaman - so you might want to know what it is that you're giving before you start giving it out...
If you haven't done this, you have no idea the amount of power it contains - and you certainly don't have any business in giving it out to others. If, as you say, the people you're giving to have actually used it before, why would they need someone who hasn't to tell them how to do it? DMT is a life changing event - but it isn't always a positive one for everyone who tries it. If you disregard the potential to harm, you're either a fool or don't care.
To all who are new to this wondrous substance and have thoughts of sharing with others, I urge you to consider the following with all due seriousness beforehand:
You alone are responsible for every grain of spice you extract. Every person you introduce it to is now your responsibility. For however long they continue to use it, for whatever integration issues pop up later in their lives, for whoever they in turn introduce - it's all now on you, dorm room shaman - so you might want to know what it is that you're giving before you start giving it out...
If you haven't done this, you have no idea the amount of power it contains - and you certainly don't have any business in giving it out to others. If, as you say, the people you're giving to have actually used it before, why would they need someone who hasn't to tell them how to do it? DMT is a life changing event - but it isn't always a positive one for everyone who tries it. If you disregard the potential to harm, you're either a fool or don't care.
