some advice on spice for n00bs

[Eternal_LVX]

Hey Nexus!

I just wanted to share with you all my experiences with Spice. I haven't posted in a while.

Some things to consider when it comes to Spice:

- Read everything on this forum especially this: FAQ - DMT Frequently Asked Questions and Troubleshooting Guide - DMT-Nexus Wiki
- It's not hard to get. A lot of n00bs complain about not being able to find it. Just make it!
- Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark, Naphtha, Lime, Lye, Vinegar and Ascorbic Acid are all options for your recipe.
- Sodium Carbonate can be used for a wash.
- There are many Teks to choose from. Follow the Teks on this forum and you'll be good to go.
- Be cautious about who you tell. The fewer people that know you have it, the better.
- When you finally have it, respect what you got! This is a sacred sacrament.
- When you're ready to try it, dont be too afraid. But realize that your body thinks it's dying and its ok. Let go!
- Do it in a safe place, somewhere you wont be disturbed or interrupted. With a friend or alone, either one.
- Don't have expectations about your experience. It's different every time.
- I've found that hitting the Spice in a glass pipe works well to vaporize the spice. You can make this if you're crafty.
- Experienced members have recommended the GVG or Vaporgenie. Buy one!
- The more times you hit it, the further into hyperspace you go. Just my opinion.
- Don't drop the pipe! Set it down, and fall into hyperspace bliss!
- Record your experiences in a private journal or on this site for all of us to see!

That's all I got for now, thanks for checkin it out! Peace

 

[tele]

- It's not hard to get. A lot of n00bs complain about not being able to find it. Just make it!

I agree, one definately should not buy it, people who sell it are idiots who don't respect it. Spice is to be shared for free only, it's not crack cocaine that one can sell

- Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark, Naphtha, Lye, Soda Ash and Ascorbic Acid are the ingredients to your recipe.

There are teks which has other ingridients, such as lime as a base, so these are only used for some of the teks

- Follow the Teks on this forum and you'll be good to go.
- Be cautious about who you tell. The fewer people that know you have it, the better.

I agree, don't talk about it to anyone except your closest friends

- When you finally have it, respect what you got! This is a sacred sacrament.
- When you're ready to try it, dont be too afraid. But realize that your body thinks it's dying and its ok. Let go!

Well this is just your interprentation, I don't agree that your body thinks it's dying, even when sometimes that could be the case, but SOMETIMES

- Do it in a safe place, like your bedroom when everyone has gone to sleep. With a friend or alone, either one.

What is this? If one lives with someone who can't be awake when you smoke spice, that's the wrong place to do it, NEVER SMOKE SPICE AT YOUR PARENTS HOUSE, go to nature or wait until you have your own place... This is not cannabis one can smoke at your parents house's roof for example.
This is a n00b advice for n00bs. Smoke with a friend only if he/she's smoking too or if you need a sitter. Alone is best

- Don't have expectations about your experience. It's different every time.
- I've found that hitting the Spice in a glass pipe works well to vaporize the spice. You can make this if you're crafty.

Different yes, but sometimes similar. Glass pipe doesn't work well, GVG or VG(vaporgenie) works well!

- Record your experiences in a private journal or on this site for all of us to see!

I agree journey diary is good and I keep one too

On side note:
I don't think your advices are too great(especially the when people are asleeping or glass pipe) or new, and personally I don't feel like your too experienced with the spice yourself. Sorry if it sounds bad, and I appreciate that you're trying to help n00bs, but there's plenty of stuff to consider. Especially when it comes to set/setting, extraction and smoking method!

There's plenty of good and "experienced" advice on dmt nexus wiki...

Any noob should start there:

DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

That's all I got for now, thanks for checkin it out! Peace

 

[d*l*b]

- Do it in a safe place, like your bedroom when everyone has gone to sleep. With a friend or alone, either one.

What is this? If one lives with someone who can't be awake when you smoke spice, that's the wrong place to do it, NEVER SMOKE SPICE AT YOUR PARENTS HOUSE, go to nature or wait until you have your own place... This is not cannabis one can smoke at your parents house's roof for example.
This is a n00b advice for n00bs. Smoke with a friend only if he/she's smoking too or if you need a sitter. Alone is best

I can’t see what the issue is with advising journeying when everyone has gone to sleep, it might not be the time of preference for everyone but there are a lot of benefits – it’s quieter and you are far less likely to get an unexpected interruption. Less noise on the street if you live in a built up area too. I rarely smoke before midnight.

 

[soulfood]

I will agree that smoking alone is great for straight freebase, but if you add a harmaloid to the mix it can be a great experience between close friends.

When I first started with DMT I would smoke first thing in the morning as it would give me the whole day to reflect. Right before bedtime I find I lose the lesson sometimes. However, back then I was living with people who worked early shifts. Now in order to assure I don't get disturbed I'm smoking much later, but this isn't ideal as I find it impossible to sleep up to 4 hours after DMT.

 

[Eternal_LVX]

Well, I guess I should clarify a few things.
The reason why I chose to list those items as a starting point is because they are easy to get. It's a lot easier to get Vitamin C pills than it is other types of acids. But I do agree that people should be free to choose what they want to use.

I never said anything specifically about anyone's parents house. I use to live with roomates that were loud and would interrupt so I just advice not to get interrupted. It's more peaceful when someone isnt blasting the TV or running in and out of your room. It's just more convenient for everyone. I feel like doing it out in nature could be risky. You dont want to be caught with a pipe and crystal substances. Living alone is ideal OBVIOUSLY.

You are probably right about the GVG, but if you dont have the resources to get one, it's much easier to McGuyver a glass vaporizer yourself.

But I agree that I am a n00b at smoking spice. you caught me. I admit it. The reason I posted this is just to emphasize some quick easy points without someone having to sift through pages and pages of posts just for some quick advice. Obviously someone liked it because I got promoted for posting it.

 

[Eternal_LVX]

I just edited it considering all your advice.

 

[d*l*b]

The reason why I chose to list those items as a starting point is because they are easy to get. It's a lot easier to get Vitamin C pills than it is other types of acids. But I do agree that people should be free to choose what they want to use.

White 5% vinegar or citric acid? Over here at least (UK) vinegar is available everywhere and is also very cheap. Other benefits to choosing vinegar are that you can use it to neutralise spills in the basic stage of your extraction.

 

[universecannon]

- Do it in a safe place, like your bedroom when everyone has gone to sleep. With a friend or alone, either one.

What is this? If one lives with someone who can't be awake when you smoke spice, that's the wrong place to do it, NEVER SMOKE SPICE AT YOUR PARENTS HOUSE, go to nature or wait until you have your own place... This is not cannabis one can smoke at your parents house's roof for example.
This is a n00b advice for n00bs. Smoke with a friend only if he/she's smoking too or if you need a sitter. Alone is best

Alone isn't necessarily best for everyone. Some prefer to have a friend there to talk to/ground them/deal with possible outside disturbances/take pipe after smoalking. One persons preferences doesn't always reflect the majorities preferences. Everyones different. That said: people should be VERY mindful of where they are smoking spice and who they smoke it with or around.

And he never said anything about smoking dmt at your parents house. There are many reasons why i think many people prefer to smoke it at night. I have room mates who i don't want to be hearing or having walk in my room randomly while i'm dealing with self transforming thousand tenticled mantid elves..many would rather just do it while the crickets churp, and the possibility of hearing outdoor/indoor noises (people cars music tv ect) are at a minimum

 

[tele]

I must say I did a mistake considering it would be somehow connected to parents or other people who don't want you to do it. There was this one topic where this guy was smoking at his moms house and had bad trip, I probably reflected somewhat on that...
However, I also recommend the time when people have gone "quiet", that is, no sounds whatsoever from outside your house or neighbours, that's why I usually blastoff during about midnight. That's actually good advice, I just misinterpreted it, sorry for that.
I agree, one must not be interrupted and one should smoke it in as peaceful surrounding as possible.
I don't think smoking in nature would be too risky if you find spot secluded enough, but obviously it's not something a newbie should do.

About smoking with your friend:

Alone isn't necessarily best for everyone. Some prefer to have a friend there to talk to/ground them/deal with possible outside disturbances/take pipe after smoalking. One persons preferences doesn't always reflect the majorities preferences. Everyones different. That said: people should be VERY mindful of where they are smoking spice and who they smoke it with or around.

I agree, some people might be too anxious smoking alone, however someone who's just going to laugh at you when you're tripping balls or something similar should be avoided, therefore if you decide to trip with a friend(Even if he/she doesn't smoke), make sure you trust him/her totally to be your sitter. Yeah, everyone's different.

- The more times you hit it, the further into hyperspace you go. Just my opinion.

It's true, the more you hit the further you go. But some members including me take the full dose in one hit from the GVG, because that is easy with GVG+copper mesh screen and proper vaporization temperature.

 

[Shaolin]

From my experience, I would be cautious about advising sodium carbonate (soda ash) in an extraction if used as a base instead of a wash.

 

[Global]

I would advise looking into Q21Q21's lime tek. Also this whole thing regarding "smoking in the parent's house": everyone has different relationships with their parents which can include what you may consider odd and complicated dynamics, so everyone should assess their situation carefully.

 

[tele]

I would advise looking into Q21Q21's lime tek. Also this whole thing regarding "smoking in the parent's house": everyone has different relationships with their parents which can include what you may consider odd and complicated dynamics, so everyone should assess their situation carefully.

Yeah true, therefore general guidelines are difficult to make. Everyone should just at least use common sense when it comes to DMT... But never smoke around anyone who doesn't want you to do it!

q21's tek rules!

 

[Apoc]

- Do it in a safe place, like your bedroom when everyone has gone to sleep. With a friend or alone, either one.

What is this? If one lives with someone who can't be awake when you smoke spice, that's the wrong place to do it, NEVER SMOKE SPICE AT YOUR PARENTS HOUSE, go to nature or wait until you have your own place... This is not cannabis one can smoke at your parents house's roof for example.

hey.... why do you condone smoking weed at a parents house but not spice? Both are illegal.

 

[tele]

- Do it in a safe place, like your bedroom when everyone has gone to sleep. With a friend or alone, either one.

What is this? If one lives with someone who can't be awake when you smoke spice, that's the wrong place to do it, NEVER SMOKE SPICE AT YOUR PARENTS HOUSE, go to nature or wait until you have your own place... This is not cannabis one can smoke at your parents house's roof for example.

hey.... why do you condone smoking weed at a parents house but not spice? Both are illegal.

Illegal yes, but it's not about legal issues.

It's about the strenght of the toke.

 

[Eternal_LVX]

I just want to say, even though there have been some disagreements on this post, I really appreciate all the feedback! I like being involved in topics that catch people's attention. That's why another reason why I posted. I want to be able to contribute something to this site because it's helped me so much.

From my personal experience, I smoked it my first time with my girlfriend there at night and it was different than when I smoked it during the day when I was alone. But I think we all agree that what I was trying to say was this:

But never smoke around anyone who doesn't want you to do it!

Alone isn't necessarily best for everyone. Some prefer to have a friend there to talk to/ground them/deal with possible outside disturbances/take pipe after smoalking. One persons preferences doesn't always reflect the majorities preferences. Everyones different. That said: people should be VERY mindful of where they are smoking spice and who they smoke it with or around.

I meant the sodium carbonate was for the wash only too...

Maybe I should revise it again. Any other suggestions for the experienced members? Things I could add?

 

[McCoyBoy]

I have a question about breakthrough's. Once one has completely broken through, do you still have body function? can you move and think freely?

 

[۩]

I have a question about breakthrough's. Once one has completely broken through, do you still have body function? can you move and think freely?

Everyones different.
Some people black out and convulse from the sheer intensity of the experience.
Others, like myself, can think, speak, and move while in hyperspace. Sure it's weird, insane, intense, but it's an option...

I prefer to just sit still usually and melt, or my hands/arms will start flying around rhythmically, or I'll press them together, or...

And also, it doesn't help to call new members n00bs. I remember when I was curious, young, and dumb, blindly asking questions in hopes of figuring out this grand mystery. I remember what it was like to be there, and that is why I regard the new members as brothers and sisters, and not noobs, but that is just me.

 

[smokerx]

I have a question about breakthrough's. Once one has completely broken through, do you still have body function? can you move and think freely?

I did not break through yet at least that is what I think but I smoke bigger dose and there is no way I could use any body functions. I could not even open my eyes. No way you can stand up or do anything. I was completely unaware of this reality we are now. I still do not consider this as break through but some here would maybe said it was one.

 

[gibran2]

I have a question about breakthrough's. Once one has completely broken through, do you still have body function? can you move and think freely?

It depends on how you define a breakthrough and what happens to you during a breakthrough. I generally have OBEs during breakthroughs – I am no longer in my body. As a result there are no eyes to open, arms to move, legs to walk with, etc. I assume my body is taking care of itself while I’m gone, but I’m not aware of what it is actually doing.

 

[Eternal_LVX]

And also, it doesn't help to call new members n00bs. I remember when I was curious, young, and dumb, blindly asking questions in hopes of figuring out this grand mystery. I remember what it was like to be there, and that is why I regard the new members as brothers and sisters, and not noobs, but that is just me.

If I recall, you were pretty harsh on me when I first joined.
Here's the link in case you don't remember..

1111 - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

You seemed pretty close minded and judgemental.
Just a little playful hazing. I'm still pretty new myself.