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If The Maxx wants to be dramatic about his trip report, I don't really see the harm in it.
Perhaps it is a bit on the cryptic side but so is the psychedelic experience itself.

Personally I enjoy a great riddle....even a number riddle, even though I'm terrible at math.

My point is, how does everyone know that The Maxx does not have something incredibly interesting to share? Perhaps he is just using a bit of showmanship here to raise some eyebrows....

From what I am seeing here, people are being way too hard on The Maxx for no darned good reason. It's not like we get a million new threads a day here at the Nexus to look over it's not like his thread is taking up precious space or anything. Also I see NO reason to be concerned for the Maxx's mental health or whatever.

It's not like he in any way indicated that he is suffering, upset or violent to himself or others.
Psychedelics are supposes to make you think outside of the box...so what's the problem here?
If The Maxx wants to relish his revelation by giving us "cliffhangar" threads about it then so what? Is that a reason to get aggravated by it?


God forbid someone should post something that is actually interesting and thought provoking in a creative way that is also highly unusual.

I saw no reason to be offended, annoyed or angered at this thread. If The Maxx's post makes you mad, then perhaps there is a deeper issue here that has nothing to do with The Maxx..

What really irritates me is that now I'm afraid you have all discouraged him and I will never get to find out what the heck he is talking about!


IS it too much to ask for us to be compassionate and understanding towards one onother?
After all this is a DMT forum.
 
Eliyahu said:
My point is, how does everyone know that The Maxx does not have something incredibly interesting to share?
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Because he appears incapable of sharing it with us?

Look he is rambling on in a crazy fashion and it's pretty obvious. He makes it sound like there is something HUGE looming just over the horizon that only he sees. Do you honestly not see the problem with this? It's not like he is giving us an actually prophesy or something. He is rambling on about complete crap.

Honestly it sounds to me, someone who has been around these drugs for 25 years now, like he desperately needs to take a break or he runs the risk of checking out of consensus reality and when that happens you often get checked into a psych ward.

I will gladly stand corrected.
But first please tell me what it is exactly The Maxx is trying to share with us?
 
Eliyahu said:
If The Maxx wants to be dramatic about his trip report, I don't really see the harm in it.
Perhaps it is a bit on the cryptic side but so is the psychedelic experience itself.

Personally I enjoy a great riddle....even a number riddle, even though I'm terrible at math.

My point is, how does everyone know that The Maxx does not have something incredibly interesting to share? Perhaps he is just using a bit of showmanship here to raise some eyebrows....
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Of course he might have something incredibly interesting to share. How should we know, unless we find out. But extraordinary claims ask for extraordinary evidence, and I personally would not use his approach if I were about to deliver a big revelation to people who are eager to listen.

Eliyahu said:
Also I see NO reason to be concerned for the Maxx's mental health or whatever.

It's not like he in any way indicated that he is suffering, upset or violent to himself or others.
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In this community we care about safety. I think it makes absolute sense to be concerned by someone who might have overdone it, and that does not require a dramatic episode. Dramatic episodes are what we want to avoid precisely.

I disagree with anyone who ridicules The Maxx, but unless he backs up his assertions further, it's normal to think at first he didn't express himself well, or he has lost it a little bit. I'd love to find out that he hasn't and he has a big reason for this post.

Eliyahu said:
I saw no reason to be offended, annoyed or angered at this thread. If The Maxx's post makes you mad, then perhaps there is a deeper issue here that has nothing to do with The Maxx..
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With this I agree. But how not to be wary or worried at first?
 
Eliyahu wrote: IS it too much to ask for us to be compassionate and understanding towards one onother?

This is my aim entirely with what I have posted, I have a great deal of experience here.
Maxx has stated in the past he consumes a large amount of spice frequently.
This is obvious psychosis, if we were to turn a blind eye and say nothing how compassionate would that be?
In my experience after HPPD has set in the slightest bit of Marijuana can trigger flashbacks, I know some people here do not believe in HPPD some tote it like a trophy, I was one who boasted of my state of insanity, finally I realized I had to stop using for a while so that I could even function in the real world.

And your right Maxx, I have a fear for these substance, a healthy one many would call a deep respect. I have no anger here toward anyone, but someone has to tell it like it is.
We are all obsessed with these plants, but if we don't keepour obsession at a healthy level we will be looked on as foolish by the very hearts of the naysayers we are trying to win over to see our perspective on this. It is our RESPONSE ABILITY to look after one another, Maxx most of us have been there and know where you are coming from. Please take a few days to consider our advice.
 
Frusciante said:
Eliyahu wrote: IS it too much to ask for us to be compassionate and understanding towards one onother?

This is my aim entirely with what I have posted, I have a great deal of experience here.
Maxx has stated in the past he consumes a large amount of spice frequently.
This is obvious psychosis, if we were to turn a blind eye and say nothing how compassionate would that be?
In my experience after HPPD has set in the slightest bit of Marijuana can trigger flashbacks, I know some people here do not believe in HPPD some tote it like a trophy, I was one who boasted of my state of insanity, finally I realized I had to stop using for a while so that I could even function in the real world.

And your right Maxx, I have a fear for these substance, a healthy one many would call a deep respect. I have no anger here toward anyone, but someone has to tell it like it is.
We are all obsessed with these plants, but if we don't keepour obsession at a healthy level we will be looked on as foolish by the very hearts of the naysayers we are trying to win over to see our perspective on this. It is our RESPONSE ABILITY to look after one another, Maxx most of us have been there and know where you are coming from. Please take a few days to consider our advice.
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I suppose I don't understand the point of taking psychedelics if they only lead to psychosis and HPPD. That does't sound like a very likely way to win over the synical hearts of naysayers either, telling them that psychedelics induce insanity, HPPD etc or that they keep you from functioning in the real world.

While I do believe that negative side effects can occur because of psychedelic use. I personally believe this is a result of people fighting with all their might to try and stay or remain "sane" or "normal" or what ever in the midst of a psychedelic tsunami.
IMO sanity is just a more comfortable version of complete illusion.
 
Frusciante said:
Eliyahu wrote: IS it too much to ask for us to be compassionate and understanding towards one onother?

This is my aim entirely with what I have posted, I have a great deal of experience here.
Maxx has stated in the past he consumes a large amount of spice frequently.
This is obvious psychosis, if we were to turn a blind eye and say nothing how compassionate would that be?
In my experience after HPPD has set in the slightest bit of Marijuana can trigger flashbacks, I know some people here do not believe in HPPD some tote it like a trophy, I was one who boasted of my state of insanity, finally I realized I had to stop using for a while so that I could even function in the real world.

And your right Maxx, I have a fear for these substance, a healthy one many would call a deep respect. I have no anger here toward anyone, but someone has to tell it like it is.
We are all obsessed with these plants, but if we don't keepour obsession at a healthy level we will be looked on as foolish by the very hearts of the naysayers we are trying to win over to see our perspective on this. It is our RESPONSE ABILITY to look after one another, Maxx most of us have been there and know where you are coming from. Please take a few days to consider our advice.
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Agreed 200% and well put, friend.

I think I read in the Wiki here that everything revealed in an altered state of mind should be treated at the very least with a degree of skepticism.

Maxx, please do not take my words earlier as harsh or ridiculing. Just wish I could understand better. I remember i asked my friend before he disappeared for more clarity in the signifigance to him about the number 8 and he couldn't put it in words either. I don't know, something about that always kind of bothered me.

Anyways, sorry, just my two cents.
 
Eliyahu said:
IS it too much to ask for us to be compassionate and understanding towards one another?
After all this is a DMT forum.
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Thanks, brother, that's the best thing anyone has said on this thread so far. Compassion is the name of the game, nothing else really matters.

"I remember i asked my friend before he disappeared for more clarity in the signifigance to him about the number 8 and he couldn't put it in words either. I don't know, something about that always kind of bothered me."

Do not compare me to your friend. We are not the same. I could tell you what the numbers mean, I know, I didn't just write them down for no reason. I guess I considered people here to be more adventurous. Find out for yourself or it will have no meaning.

I stated I don't want believers, I want people to try it for themselves.

There was one astute person who said I went about this with a bit of showmanship, and I do that for a very good reason: I make my living writing and drawing comic books. I have style. I tend to write dramatically. (I'm pretty well liked in the underground, for the few out there who still read comic books) . And to those sad, judgmental, misguided ones who think I'm going insane: I write and draw 14 hours a day to meet my deadlines. You have to be present to do that.

I will tell you all exactly how I do it, in graphic detail, then the ball is in your court. You can either continue to ridicule me, which is totally cool if that makes you happy or makes you feel better about yourself, or you can experiment for YOURSELF and see what you come up with. I said in the first post on this thread that words are hollow, actions are what matter.

And I also stated VERY CLEARLY IN GIANT YELLOW LETTERS that I AM BY NO MEANS THE ONLY ONE TO PRACTICE THIS.

Yes, you guessed it, the key is meditation. Who does not meditate, disintegrates.

The trick is to meditate on objective physical sensation. Paying attention to physical sensation is paying attention to energetic sensation. Being awake to oneself and one's surroundings increases the intensity of the impressions so that they affect the spin of the electrons that are present in the nervous system. In this context, being awake means being aware of one's own self while at the same time absorbing impressions from the outside. The increase in spin and enrichment of the complexity of the pattern of being that results brings more and more form to the radiant body.

A part of the electromagnetic field that fills the nervous system rests a few centimeters above the skin, outside of the body. This field is an organ just like the heart or the brain. It is in quantum superposition, the electrons effectively everywhere in the universe and nowhere specific. It may be imprinted by information from anywhere and any time. With it, you may see other worlds, you may see the past and the future, you may see into the lives of those around you.

However, the process of imprinting itself causes the organ to cease to be in superposition and thus to cease to be accessible to further imprinting. The ability to control this organ can be developed. Many practices will work, but the best is to meditate in such a way that the mind is concentrated on physical sensation. This relieves the pressure of impressions incoming from the physical world on the electromagnetic body that enables it to expand.

You must be able to watch and not watch at the same time. When you learn this, it will stay in superposition even as you take the imagery that it is receiving into your brain and process it.

This is opening the third eye. The nervous system delivers these impressions to the area of the brain closest to the pineal gland, which is where this organ is centered. Objective sensation is consciousness. You are within life, but not entirely absorbed in life.


Oh, just the ravings of a madman! Just hit that GVG and keep telling yourself there's no other way.
 
Im sorry that you've taken our concern as ridicule friend, there is no need to be in argument. I can understand that this is what you seek, to enter the DMT realm with out partaking of the molecule. But what if there comes a time when you can't control it? The fact that this experience happened with the aid of Marijuana strikes me as a tale tell sign of psychosis, and again this is based on my own experience, also to reach a state of enlightenment with no drugs would sound more impressive and less like abuse.

I simply thought it unwise to not make mention of how serious we should take our health.
 
The Maxx wrote:

Who does not meditate, disintegrates.
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Nice saying! I might have to borrow this if you haven't already copywrited it

Anyways... as a writer I could spot your creative flair for the dramatic a mile away.
Although it has been argued by certain scholars that there is little difference between a true creative genius and an absolute madman....
(A. Huxley, The Doors of Perception/ Heaven and Hell)

And so....
I absolutely concur with your revelation and your discoveries concerning the power of human awareness...

I have also found that while there are many "methods" of meditation the most effective one for me personally has been the most simple. To simply allow myself to exist by ahering to a state of inner silence. Eventually that silence becomes self perpetuting and then like you said opens up the third eye. I have also noticed that the human soul in it's entirety is essentially this eye.

Wow what an amazing thing when two completely insane people agree with one another.
Obviously this is merely a shared delusion of somekind.

Let me know when you figure out which reincarnated prophet you are......:d

Only Kidding!:lol: mostly. :|
 
Eliyahu said:
The Maxx wrote:

Who does not meditate, disintegrates.
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Nice saying! I might have to borrow this if you haven't already copywrited it



Let me know when you figure out which reincarnated prophet you are......:d

Only Kidding!:lol: mostly. :|
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There are no copyrights in my world. Even my comic book states at the bottom: "Copyrights are stupid. Share with all."

I'd better not answer that second statement, people think I'm crazy enough. But I feel you, believe me!
 
I too was surprised by the reactions to your thread Maxx. First of all, I've read at least 2 other threads in the past where weed users described entering hyperspace as a result of smoking weed. Secondly, we as humans have much more to learn than we currently know, and so if you discover a random fact, it is much more likely that it is entirely unique than something we already know. Discovering new things is something that we all do every day. why discover would seem so alien to anyone here is beyond me. Thirdly, calling somebody or somebody's ideas crazy is dismissive and everybody here deserves more respect than that.

Maxx, I totally get where your coming from when you say you can't tell us about your realization now. Timing is everything. Language is everything. Wait as long as you need to find the right time and the right language to share your idea, IF you want to share it. In the meantime, the best I can do to understand you is reflect on the sequence of numbers you have provided and, if I have the opportunity to do so, I will.

Thanks for sharing.
 
I tend to agree, if it's not safe for a psychonaut to say "crazy" sounding stuff here and not be judged and belittled for it, then where IS safe?
 
Well if the OP was closer to post #27 then all of this would have been avoided.

Like it or not the OP had a strong sense of "I'm the chosen one and I have the knowledge". This type of thing is never received well on the Nexus.

Most of the post which are being criticised were more concerned with the well being of The Maxx and were posted by people who have direct experience with the negative effects that taking psychedelics can have on people.

I tend to agree, if it's not safe for a psychonaut to say "crazy" sounding stuff here and not be judged and belittled for it, then where IS safe?
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With justification and explanation the Nexus is a safe place where you can say anything and you will receive good replies and lots of sincere help. Cryptic mumbo jumbo will be replied to in a similar fashion.
 
Eliyahu said:
IS it too much to ask for us to be compassionate and understanding towards one onother?
After all this is a DMT forum.
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BECAUSE this is a forum about DMT and other entheogens we have to be very prudent about people who are clearly on the verge of psychosis or in the act of too much substance use/substance abuse.

When people make rambling posts about their experience with claims of extraordinary things AND when they think this is a fact instead of a possible side effect of the substance use we have to step in.

We have to remind these people to stay grounded and that it might be a good time to stay away from substances or from certain combinations. Maybe only lowering the amount of substance use might work but we have to be very careful here.

Looking at past experiences not only on this forum but also on other places we should never strengthen possible delusions! Acknowledging a delusion and encouraging it is one of the worst things we can do, it can help people get into a psychosis with an incredible long duration or worse.

So we have to take responsibility and should not encourage this road The Maxx is on. The Maxx should be given a place to talk more about his experience since it might be that over time the effect of the substance and it's journey will wane off and The Maxx will see that his OP is indeed just a weird rambling instead of a real 'prophecy'. Oh, and Eliyahu, please stop with your prophet ideas, we have been over this already and a smiley will not work to hide your intentions.

To the others who are mocking the OP:

This will not work either and with your mocking you might strengthen ones possible delusion! Also it is bad taste to mock people, here on the DMT-Nexus we promote respectful discussion and if you read the Attitude page you will read that what you are doing is against the rules and might even result in a temporarily suspension of your account!

To The Maxx:

I think it is in your best interest to stop using substances for some time, then after a while of no substance use you should read your OP again with a sober mind, then try to feel how other people would read such a post and what kind of impression it would make. If I'm honest; your OP reads like a warning sign about your mental health and it makes me very worried about you. So please, take into consideration what I have written down here.


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
The Maxx said:
Do not compare me to your friend. We are not the same. I could tell you what the numbers mean, I know, I didn't just write them down for no reason. I guess I considered people here to be more adventurous. Find out for yourself or it will have no meaning.
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I need to make something very clear here. Maxx, I am not ridiculing you, but you need to understand where I and others who have posted on this are coming from. We are always skeptical when receive "messages" of revelation and what not from others. Let me make a couple points here:

First, at which point was I "comparing" you to the individual I referenced? No, rather, I compared WHAT YOU SAID to what HE said to me and guess what, whether you like it or not, you both had the same way of speaking and conveying this "knowledge." I never once said that this is going to happen to you, but after he said this to me, like I said earlier, he went rogue, and now I see newspaper articles of him getting arrested for painting little blue hearts all over everything around town and rambling strange sayings to the authorities. That is all I meant, so I'm sorry if you've misinterpreted my message, I hope this clarification will help. Maxx, let's be 100% real here. Regardless if it is something we WANT to understand, to a lot of us here, it was just rambling nonsense that had no meaning other than what you put into it, regardless of the fact whether it has great meaning to you or not. So this is why people are asking the questions they are and saying the things they are. Cryptic posts are not received well in this community and the reason for this is because we like to communicate with each other without the need for trivial riddles and extremely vague sayings. We're all on the quest of growth here. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but that's just the way it is, friend. The genuine concern and worry exhibited by a lot of the responders to this post should reflect that. If you're going to come on here and get cryptic with the members of this community and act like a "chosen one who knows all and ye who are not I will never know", that is totally cool, that is totally your right to do so, but it is also our right as the receivers of this said "message" to break down what it is you are saying so it can make sense to us as individuals in our personal growth. To respond with "figure it out yourself" in summary is not going to get good results. At that point, it's just meaningless words. Nothing more.

Lastly friend, for you to get combative or vague with people when they ask for an explanation is not a very good way to get people to listen or even to try to understand what you are saying. Some of the brightest minds around are a part of this community, and these same minds will have no problem grilling you for an answer when something doesn't make sense or something doesn't add up. So please be prepared in the future for that.

Again, sorry if I offended you or any others, but I meant every word I said in my previous posts and this one.

Please take the advice being kindly offered: Take a break.

(This is being written at 7:31am in the morning, right after I woke up, so please forgive any spelling mistakes or instances where I might have repeated myself. I'll edit later. Thanks! :D )
 
The Traveler said:
Oh, and Eliyahu, please stop with your prophet ideas, we have been over this already and a smiley will not work to hide your intentions.
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Captain!
I mean no dis-respect to you or this beautiful internet community you have created.
What you say goes and therefore your wish is my command!

My apologies for everything.
 
The Maxx

Traveler has given you excellent advice, the most logical way forward would be to take a break from entheogens and to focus on creating your comic books. As a creative outlet is an incredibly constructive way to take your mind off things for a while. It will do you no harm and if anything help you integrate yourself safely... ;)


Much Peace and Respect
 
AHHHHH HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! **HEE HEE HEE! Eh Heh, eh oh, whew!**


Tell you what I'm going to to do, folks: I'll just agree that you're all right and I am wrong. Why not? No sweat off my sack!

ANNNNNNNNDDDDDDD I'll do y'all another huge solid: I will, from now on, only post in a humorous thread, nothing else. No more endless circular Clashes of the Egos. I will only make posts that make people laugh, not think, for this thread demonstrated an embarrassing lack of an OPEN AND HONEST EXCHANGE OF IDEAS.

I will tell you one thing before everything is funny again: My pen is mightier than your finely-honed, diamond-sharp egos and misguided judgements that clog the pipes of reason.

Hey! Ban this kid, he violated out Attitude Page! Post a link in his email informing him why he's banned! How dare he step out of line!

HA!
 
I'm so vibing with both "sides" of this coin. The dissenting viewpoints of the majority here, are mostly good intentioned "hey, be careful with delusional thought patterns" type stuff. I respect that. Health, safety, sanity. The community needs to look out for our psychonaughts. Be good family y'all.


Eliyahu said a big word, a mighty word "compassion". I respect what you said in this thread, you crazy prophet guy! I also have mad respect for what Vodesil and Trav spoke. Good stuff.


We are psychonaughts. Anything is possible and no-one really knows. let's let a mad man be mad every once in a while. Loosen the sanity leash a bit. hey, I was in the chorus of warning Maxx, earlier in this thread. Sometimes good stuff comes from the crazy place. This is coming from a guy who has recently let go and overcame some delusional stuff....I'm maybe not 100% free. But extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence.....yeah, it's a good mantra for the rational stuff, and that stuff is awesome. But every once in awhile it rains frogs. Sometimes a platypus happens. Life is not always ordinary. Extraordinary things happen.


Anyway, respect for everyone. And compassion. Everyone in this thread. I'm respecting your viewpoints....Actually, I'm agreeing with everyone. And I'm compassionate. We are all in this universe, up against some stuff we can ramble about insanely, come up with equations to describe, come up with all sorts of extraction teks to try and get at it....but we can't be 100 percent sure of any of it.

Except for when we choose to just believe the experience. Only the madman is ever truly sure. The only time you truly KNOW anything, dood, you is crazy that time. Believe it or rationalize it away. This is reality. or not. Who knows?

Respect.

Compassion.

Love you guys.


Maxx, i always enjoy your posts, you are funny and cool. Don't let that leash get too long, okay. I won't judge you if you let it run wild a little bit though.
 
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