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Stop making me go outside!

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Harmalas, in order to what? Extend journeys? Brighten them up a bit? I mean, what EXACTLY do harmalas do? I know they're maoi inhibitors and all that, but how do they feel, and how would they help me in this case? Thanks, fractal!
 
Yeah i definetly agree with fractal.

Better yet, try true ayahuasca, or a mimosa/rue tea!
This will definetly add some depth and meaning if this has been a problem, For sure if youve never tried the oral route, I think this is definetly the way ahead for you.

The teas (harmala+dmt) are much different than smoking, yeah extened journeys, (by a long shot), slowed down to a more understandable pace, making it somewhat more akin to the traditional psychedelics, and the plain fact that theres just some magic going on there with those plants, no doubt about it, they would add more magic and meaning for sure i would say, and that seems to be what you are after
 
Wow, harmalosa, I'm so down! I'm actually still reeling from a journey from a few mins ago...I think you and fractal, and everyone else is right...oral is the way to go...just so I know, how many hours should I expect this to go on? =D
 
And one thing. Trip at sunset or after.
Personally I hardly ever trip in daylight. I might do but only if I do it indoors and with good curtains.
 
It's 'cause tripper's made of pure darkness, heheh.

You're experience with dog hands and tree arm is pretty interesting. I dunnae what it means.
Do you draw at all? It would def make a cool picture.
 
aLZABO, seriously, right? Honestly, its really freaky when it happens, but I'm getting used to it...I just may attempt to illustrate it tonight! What a good idea!
 
Harmalosa, I gave it a thought, and I'm totally down for the ayahuasca admixture. I'm guessing banisteriopsis caapi is what I need, but should I get.... shredded vine, whole vine, or vine extract? I mean, I'd end up doing a harmala extract anyways, right? Would it be smart to go for the pre-extract to save time+energy?
 
Yeah aya is amazing, like i said i'd get both, rue seeds are handy to have around.

Yup b.cappi..

Idk you don't have to do an extract, you could make true ayahuasca tea by just boiling the vine..
I would definetly recommend this way instead of the extract, for sure!
For one it's all natural and wholistic, I mean why fix something thats not broken right?! It can be prepared using plain water, and no solvents or anything for that matter, and leads to (IMO) the best experience..
Thats just me though im all about the natural teas, and I believe an extract only leads to half the experience, theres many unknown factors going on, and the plant spirit may or may not be present in the extract as it is in the true ayahuasca tea, if of course you even believe in these spirits.

Either way I would personally recommend WHOLE VINE,, or whole anything for that matter
and i would recomend looking into how to prepare an aya or mimosa tea, and thats exactly what id do if i were you.
 
BananaForeskin said:
The same thing happened to me towards the end of last year's bout of spice usage. Inside equaled bad trips, outside was fine.

Given my experience, this could be a signal that your time with it is winding down. If you wanted to play it safe, I'd say take a break for a while, or you should be prepared for a bad trip. There could be one coming.

Also, are you using changa? If so, you could try switching up the blend. I had a blend once that only ever gave good experiences when outside, and drew the user out of doors.

Otherwise, I suppose you're stuck being in nature! It's the spice, how much control do you really expect to have? :twisted:
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Dude,like a month later, you were riiiiiiiight.....how is this? The outside situation led to 3 subsequent days in a row...first day, I could not remember my journey whatsoever...next day, I took a HUGE hit of spice, with no effects whatsoever...my hardhead didn't understand, and decided to try AGAIN, and on the 3rd day, I had my ass TOTALLY KICKED by the molecule...seriously had my ethereal body ripped to pieces and thrown around the room...It was a heavy result for not getting the hint, (I could see my severed arm on the floor across the room) I was surprised it could be THAT MEAN...I figured for being so other-worldly and advanced, it could at least keep its anger in check...(no worries, i've already had ego-death, so I understand these are all manifestations of my own creation, i just find it more simple to label them as outside entties) and then, subsequently, everything else began happening...the nexus shut down for like 3 weeks, my orders were placed on hold, and the extractions I had going were rendered spiceless, brown fog water. I have always used spice respectfully, aside from the trial and error phase, and have never abused it IMO. I know it was time for a break, but damn, how did you know when it was your time? you say you simply asked and they told you...didn't work like that for me....What is it about leading one outside that means its over? and regarding this, is the molecule hinting that I need a break, or stop for good? I've taken a 2-3 week break, got a new job, helping my pops out with work, researching all kinds of mystic writings, etc etc. I guess I still love fast food, bu "la dieta" can wait...lol..has anyone else been forced to take a break by the spice with a gnarly journey? How long was it until you could return? thanks guys, its great that the site is back up..
 
By the way, harmalosa, finally ordered some peganum 3x extract...I love the dream state/seaparation from self it seems to subtly produce...I used it with an attempted pharmauasca journey (while taking the spice break)...not sure if I ingested enough spice (around 60-70mgs), and ended up projectile vomiting...lol...light visuals and nothing more....I DO have some mimosa, and was wondering if I boiled say 9g of mimosa, along with ingesting roughly about 1 1/2 g of 3x rue extract, would this be an ayaish experience, or is the caapi vine needed for the real thing?
 
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