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SWIMS first extraction
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The_Shaman
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I have surely made it through on less then 35
With regards to dose and breakthroughs, i have noticed theres a discontinuity. If the pipe and method is good, stars align right and all is well then 25-30mg may be enough to 'breakthrough' while at other times 50mg may not be enough.
I have found little reason to use more then 30mg myself.
I have found little reason to use more then 30mg myself.
wineart
Rising Star
I am so lucky and blessed to live in one of the country's most expansive and desolate areas. I own 2400+ acres of varied terrain which includes 6 mountain tops. My land has 4 wheel drive access from 3 locations, each one gated. If I ever want to feel alone, this is where I go. It is very steep and could be a problem all alone (under any circumstances).
Earlier this fall, way before dawn, I was sitting under 5 hemlock trees as rain fell, contemplating whether I wanted to go further and risk being soaked. I opted for the relative dryness of the trees.
I was listening to the rain fall and all of a sudden I felt heat, heat being forced air. I felt it on the back of my neck like hot air from a wood stove.
When I turned, regardless of the darkness, behind me and to my left was the ass of a black bear (still within arms reach) walking away from me.
I never heard the bear approach. Being so dark, I think I might have sat on my backpack feet from where it was laying.
I just got cold chills writing this....
Earlier this fall, way before dawn, I was sitting under 5 hemlock trees as rain fell, contemplating whether I wanted to go further and risk being soaked. I opted for the relative dryness of the trees.
I was listening to the rain fall and all of a sudden I felt heat, heat being forced air. I felt it on the back of my neck like hot air from a wood stove.
When I turned, regardless of the darkness, behind me and to my left was the ass of a black bear (still within arms reach) walking away from me.
I never heard the bear approach. Being so dark, I think I might have sat on my backpack feet from where it was laying.
I just got cold chills writing this....
The_Shaman
Rising Star
well,.. now I know where were having the first ever ~ Nexus family retreat. 
sounds like you live in the woods :roll: , which is wonderful. I grew up in the woods, wouldn't trade it for anything.
I never sat on a bear though , that's awesome , glad your still here to share the story.
sounds like you live in the woods :roll: , which is wonderful. I grew up in the woods, wouldn't trade it for anything.
I never sat on a bear though , that's awesome , glad your still here to share the story.
wineart
Rising Star
I had been hunting the week earlier and watched this smallish bear (the smallest I have ever seen on it's own). Probably not more than 100 lbs or so. I had the bear in my scope (for the close up view). I don't have an interest in bear meat, (I was over that as a child) or interest in anything liverish.
Last year I had a mother and cub hanging out 40 or 50 yards away. The cub was approaching me, although I don't think it knew I was there. The cub got to within 20 yards and I took aim on it's mother in case it got any closer and the mother sensed me. That is the only situation a black bear would ever be of any danger.
If ever anyone travels to the Adirondack Mountains and doesn't make a point of communing, I would thoroughly disappointed.
I would love to meet people that have an interest in those things that perplex and draw me. I mentioned DMT in passing to my most current psychedelic friends & all he said was, "I'd love to get fucked up on that". I was disappointed in his reaction. I invited him here to watch :The Spirit Molecule" and he was over it in the first 5 minutes. He said something like "I don't care about that, I just wanna do it". I immediately mentally checked him of my sharing list and my sitter list.
Last year I had a mother and cub hanging out 40 or 50 yards away. The cub was approaching me, although I don't think it knew I was there. The cub got to within 20 yards and I took aim on it's mother in case it got any closer and the mother sensed me. That is the only situation a black bear would ever be of any danger.
If ever anyone travels to the Adirondack Mountains and doesn't make a point of communing, I would thoroughly disappointed.
I would love to meet people that have an interest in those things that perplex and draw me. I mentioned DMT in passing to my most current psychedelic friends & all he said was, "I'd love to get fucked up on that". I was disappointed in his reaction. I invited him here to watch :The Spirit Molecule" and he was over it in the first 5 minutes. He said something like "I don't care about that, I just wanna do it". I immediately mentally checked him of my sharing list and my sitter list.
cker
Rising Star
Hey wineart, it sounds like you're close to 'D' day and that's great! My FOAF is no expert but she told me you need not be afraid. Even though it's natural and prudent to be careful with a new experience, my FOAF says you might laugh a bit at your yourself and your fear once you see what 'all the fuss is about.' It's good to be careful, but don't forget to enjoy.
Just to repeat, my FOAF is not an expert, but she had a few things to say about starting exploration. My FOAF didn't have a mg scale for her 1st launch. The FOAF didn't know how to vaporize efficiently and it took practice to learn. The 1st liftoff was on parseley in a small wooden pipe and it only produced some visual warpage, minor colors, and the appearance of spider webs on the trees she was looking at. She also felt spider webs on her face and a warmth inside. It was not even close to breakthrough but it produced a big smile in her heart since she finally was able to validate the magic.
My FOAF didn't like smoking on parseley since it made it harder to pull in the 3 hits. The FOAF made a glass pipe from a pyrex tube and learned how to get 3 good hits using a butane torch. It took practice and several non-liftoffs before getting the hang of it. My FOAF wants to purchase a GVG sometime soon but the pyrex pipe does do the trick until that happens.
As far as weighing accurate doses, my FOAF thinks it's nice but miligram precision is not essential. If you have a 0.10 gram scale you can easily estimate 25mg well enough to begin. In all likelihood, you will goof up your 1st few attempts because you won't be able to get 3 good hits. If there's a little extra in the pipe, you might not be able to vaporize it anyway due to technique. It takes some practice. While you're learning, you can practice with small doses and figure out how much spice it takes to launch. My FOAF thinks a secluded spot is best to begin. She never had a sitter but that wouldn't be a bad thing to have as long as they knew to stay quiet and give you space.
It's pretty hard to hurt your body with too much smoked DMT. Read the risks for yourself, but high DMT doses are almost self-limiting. Above a breakthrough dose, if you inhale too much spice, you will tend forget what happened to you in hyperspace. A single high dose of DMT won't necessarily traumatize you mentally. It's not like (say) LSD where you can cause a big (and long) problem for yourself if you overdo it. Smoked DMT lasts about 10 minutes almost regardless of the dose. If you dose too small you don't break through. If you dose too high, you won't remember. This aspect was also reported in Strassman's Spirit Molecule book. When he gave very high doses, people emerged from hyperspace without remembering what happened. My FOAF says it's a strange but not unplesant experience. Anyway, your technique is going to be more significant than the difference between 25 and 30 mg loaded.
These words could sound too casual. No one should be casual about DMT, and for those that are, it will surely teach some lessons of respect. You will want a comfortable, safe set and setting. BUT, it's OK to relax, and practice, practice, practice....
Just to repeat, my FOAF is not an expert, but she had a few things to say about starting exploration. My FOAF didn't have a mg scale for her 1st launch. The FOAF didn't know how to vaporize efficiently and it took practice to learn. The 1st liftoff was on parseley in a small wooden pipe and it only produced some visual warpage, minor colors, and the appearance of spider webs on the trees she was looking at. She also felt spider webs on her face and a warmth inside. It was not even close to breakthrough but it produced a big smile in her heart since she finally was able to validate the magic.
My FOAF didn't like smoking on parseley since it made it harder to pull in the 3 hits. The FOAF made a glass pipe from a pyrex tube and learned how to get 3 good hits using a butane torch. It took practice and several non-liftoffs before getting the hang of it. My FOAF wants to purchase a GVG sometime soon but the pyrex pipe does do the trick until that happens.
As far as weighing accurate doses, my FOAF thinks it's nice but miligram precision is not essential. If you have a 0.10 gram scale you can easily estimate 25mg well enough to begin. In all likelihood, you will goof up your 1st few attempts because you won't be able to get 3 good hits. If there's a little extra in the pipe, you might not be able to vaporize it anyway due to technique. It takes some practice. While you're learning, you can practice with small doses and figure out how much spice it takes to launch. My FOAF thinks a secluded spot is best to begin. She never had a sitter but that wouldn't be a bad thing to have as long as they knew to stay quiet and give you space.
It's pretty hard to hurt your body with too much smoked DMT. Read the risks for yourself, but high DMT doses are almost self-limiting. Above a breakthrough dose, if you inhale too much spice, you will tend forget what happened to you in hyperspace. A single high dose of DMT won't necessarily traumatize you mentally. It's not like (say) LSD where you can cause a big (and long) problem for yourself if you overdo it. Smoked DMT lasts about 10 minutes almost regardless of the dose. If you dose too small you don't break through. If you dose too high, you won't remember. This aspect was also reported in Strassman's Spirit Molecule book. When he gave very high doses, people emerged from hyperspace without remembering what happened. My FOAF says it's a strange but not unplesant experience. Anyway, your technique is going to be more significant than the difference between 25 and 30 mg loaded.
These words could sound too casual. No one should be casual about DMT, and for those that are, it will surely teach some lessons of respect. You will want a comfortable, safe set and setting. BUT, it's OK to relax, and practice, practice, practice....
DiMiTriX
Rising Star
swim didn't read all thread anyway butane is maybe the worst solvent for recrustallization tue to his high dmt solubility (i think) and due to is extremely volatilitybut try to extract a dry tek packed in a stainless steel tube as you are making BHO would be really interesting as a 'superfast' tek..btw it's a nosense to me
wineart
Rising Star
Well I decided to just DO IT! I tried everything to get my scales to read, but a .1 tolerance wouldn't work well anyway. SWIM put some ashes in his MJ pipe. He took a business card and put a pile on top of the ashes and spread them across the top. Swim put more ashes on top and held the lighter until SWIM figured it was all melted. He gently lit the ashes until they glowed. There was a little fire, but it was tapped out, lighter brought close again and a tiny flame again, but SWIM was about to cough. SWIM held it until he doesn't remember blowing it out. SWIM felt his feet get warm and some tingly sensation around his lips. By then he was hangin' on watching a tree outside the window get a little wierd, he then closed his eyes. SWIM watched the patterns emerge in mostly reds, but it is definitely the Chrysanthimum thing. It was almost like looking at a giant fractal screen. There was no sense of entities. SWIM was playing Smokestack Lightning in the other room as there was a neighbor working in his studio at the time (bummer). SWIM really didn't notice the through the wall noises until he was coming down. So basically SWIM launched. At some point SWIM remembers seeing a white light uf some shape he can't put my finger on. When he saw the light he mentally told himself to relax, not knowing if I would move into hyperspace. SWIM figured 1 hit wouldn't do it even though it seem very concentrated. The bowl is quite crusty with lots of "white" adhered to the sides.
SWIM laid there for sometime with the lights off. SWIM actually felt tired put a pillow under his head and daydreamed for 20 or so minutes. SWIM was not at all tempted to do more. After an hour or so SWIM thought about doing 1 more small hit (before coughing small), then a bigger one and if I coughed SWIM still might get a little deeper.
At this point SWIM wants to nap before the New Year's Eve party. In fact SWIM doesn't really feel like going out anymore. I love to listen to music and this Jerry Garcia Project is a pretty good cover band, although I have 100's & 100's of hours of Garcia stuff. yada yada yada...
SWIM laid there for sometime with the lights off. SWIM actually felt tired put a pillow under his head and daydreamed for 20 or so minutes. SWIM was not at all tempted to do more. After an hour or so SWIM thought about doing 1 more small hit (before coughing small), then a bigger one and if I coughed SWIM still might get a little deeper.
At this point SWIM wants to nap before the New Year's Eve party. In fact SWIM doesn't really feel like going out anymore. I love to listen to music and this Jerry Garcia Project is a pretty good cover band, although I have 100's & 100's of hours of Garcia stuff. yada yada yada...
