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Syrian rue+cannabis is the key to enlightment
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harmala_afficianado
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Yes, but i have used rue with mushrooms and morning glory alot before, and ime these type of experiences are something meant to explore and not maintain, idk, maybe i havent ventured enough with lower doses.
Idk if dmt is much different from mushrooms, and also the last time i did mushrooms i was taking 12g rue, which obv took me way way too far and kinda changed my view on tryptamines, i think i will try again, with and without cannabis involved.
By the time i got comfortable with taking 12g seeds daily, i felt like i got everything i needed and i didnt need psychedelics anymore, but the only problem was that it made me want to go on a mountain and leave everyone behind and just take rue with me, people annoyed me and i was easily irritated by them, then i thought cannabis was most likely the perfect solution for that, and it for sure was.
I think i agree with what @northape said tho, i think i got too excited and typed "enlightment" which maybe slightly mislead people. For me personally enlightment is being fully content and unable to be stressed by things you cannot control, and being fully alligned with source, we can reach that state in alot of diff ways yes, and i just wanted to share how i reached it because it really feels special, something about the combo really feels special imo and the feeling you can have is out of this world, and i thought maybe some people can benefit from this more than with dmt, but @northape is right, there is no literal perfect combo.
Ill consider building a relashionship again with mushrooms though, thanks for the heads up.
harmala_afficianado
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Give me a few hours and i will reply, i will let you know the small details of how i used the combo, maybe it can help
harmala_afficianado
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Im not seeking validation, at all, i just like to communicate with like minded people, as i know little to none who are heavy psychedelic users in real life, i need to share these type of thoughts somewhere.
It's all relative. Many of us here have done variations of this combo endlessly and while I do enjoy it a lot at times, it's not some end goal state for me. If I'm doing that combination these days I've found it much more effective to take lower doses instead, and then add a bit of changa or DMT on top. Perhaps adding in a microdose of mushrooms or LSD as well. Together these things provide a nice platform for me that can be modulated with DMT and other techniques
As a general rule of thumb it's not very helpful to compare things with substances that you haven't tried. And if you do compare them, that would be important info to share up front
As a general rule of thumb it's not very helpful to compare things with substances that you haven't tried. And if you do compare them, that would be important info to share up front
I'd call it a healthy relationship with yourself and the world. A man in a cave fantasy is as old as our species, imo. You can't escape life no matter what you do, because you yourself are a part of it - you're life. I had a dream about myself in a remote cabin with a big sack of rue in my early days. What would you do when the stock runs out or you have no money to pay rent? Our ideology meets the mundane.
harmala_afficianado
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True, tbh im just using rue now mostly for the stimulant effect and the physical benefits, i have learned enough to maintain a healthy good life, but i was always an extremely curious soul, and daily rue unlocks unlimited depths to life, wether discovering these depths benefit me or not i cannot help but discover them, i think thats what keeps life always novel and magical.
And that's how it's supposed to be, imo. You go on a honeymoon with some medicine and uncover more of what you are. Our perfect combo changes, life brings its own lessons, yet in the process we mature and grow. Your aim remains the same, basically. I like stories myself and have lots of them in my mind, but they're just stories. Something real can only be felt and embodied. It's a silent kind of truth that we're all after.
harmala_afficianado
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I wanted to ask, does anyone have any experience with morning glory? I took them only a few times compared to mushrooms, one of them was a macrodose which was extremely healing, it also seems to synergise with rue extremely well, but im not sure which one should i pick to work with, what opinions do you guys have about morning glory compared to mushrooms? I feel like they are very underrated but i still dont have much experience with them.
My opinion is that LSD is far superior in every way to morning glories or hbwr esp with harmalas but I’m sure some ppl will disagree. The comparison with mushrooms is pointless they are pretty different. I have had hood and bad experiences with both.
Ergolines to me have a fairly mystical aura about them. The pinnacle of this is LSD. It is a great tool for mystics and more prone to experiences of the white light and ego death than some of these others like ayahuasca or mushrooms etc.
Ergolines to me have a fairly mystical aura about them. The pinnacle of this is LSD. It is a great tool for mystics and more prone to experiences of the white light and ego death than some of these others like ayahuasca or mushrooms etc.
That matches with my experience 100%, though I have to say I'm not well-versed in Aya, and I have only like half a dozen experiences with mushrooms (which I'm in the process of changing
) so maybe I'll have a different perspective in the future, who knows.
Yeah this is a bit off topic but I’m always surprised how often in modern times ppl talk about 5-MeO-DMT and the white light and gloss over LSD. There is def an overlap with these two in respect to ego loss, light out type experiences and even just the fact that (for me) LSD is perfect for quiet meditation at low doses. The other tryptamines like DMT and psilocybin are more a shamanic type journey although acid definitely has that going for it as well.
Generally I think if anyone into this stuff passes up LSD it’s a shame.
Generally I think if anyone into this stuff passes up LSD it’s a shame.
I'm like a broken record with this stuff so I apologize to everyone but I have to agree here. LSD gets ignored as some kind of party drug because of its history and not being an indigenous plant, but I don't think there is a better base platform for adding DMT.
Normally I wouldn't make such a generalized statement but I've tested this a lot the past several years with many friends, and while other substances work great, nothing has been nearly as coherent, functional, and rapidly expansive with practice (though relaxing on LSD took some time!)
Some of us actually think it works even better than DMT over time, used in the right context, but both have been shown to synchronize brain-wide activity far greater than anything else. 5meodmt is doing something more weird that I don't understand and hits 5ht1a I believe.
There's just something about deep LSD-mediated states that feels more visceral and real/solid compared to the more fleeting/simulation feeling of DMT. But both combined is off the charts.
If local populations had access to a plant that produced high quality LSD I would bet that they wouldn't even bother with most other psychedelics tbh. Everyone was just making due with what was in their immediate environment.
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Indeed. I've raved enough about LSD in the past and how much I love it, so I won't add any more to that. It is, after all, the substance that quite literally saved my life twice. How much of that is a matter of circumstance (i.e. another tool would've worked too, but I just happened to have LSD at those precise moments) is a different topic, but over the years I've more or less stopped believing in coincidences, so there's that.
LSD will forever be my love, and something I will carry profound gratitude for until the very last breath I exhale.
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You are comparing psilohuasca which I have still yet to try but I can say Rue tea + smoked DMT is very different to straight psilocybin mushrooms. They are not the same substance and while there may be more overlap than with something like LSD they are still very very different in my experience, the ROA also has a big factor.
A basic example of the significant difference is that on shrooms , vision is commonly enhanced but often takes on a flowing motion, everything around the visual field seems to be spiralling and moving in incredible patterns. On DMT there is usually no movement or motion on lower to medium doses at all, just super detailed and super sharp enhanced high resolution vision and visuals, and higher doses the visual field begins to be replaced.
Yes, that kind of discredits the whole argument
I have a fair bit of experience with LSD + DMT with Harmalas. I would agree up to a point. LSD has given me some of my most profound experiences and insights. I know people don't like hierarchies but I do feel that DMT with Harmalas are somehow slightly closer to the 'Mind of God' or at least a clearer frequency signal but they both incline that way. LSD is also more useful for work on the personal unconscious I would say.
The combo can be great, but the DMT dose has to be kept low to medium otherwise it simply overpowers and takes over the trip. The synergy is amazing though yes, I am planning in fact in a few days probably 200ug acid and will likely do some DMT+Harmalas at the tail end. It is a neglected combo for sure.
harmala_afficianado
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Interesting, i have never really considered lsd before as mushrooms were good for me, but i have to say lsa definitely had a unique "mystical" vibe to it compared to shrooms which just has a lovey vibe.
What ive read about lsd is that its more clear headed than shrooms and alot more energetic, and you seem to be more in control in your trip as opposed to mushrooms where you just have to let go.
How would you describe harmala+lsd? How does harmala change the experience and how is it compared to psilohuasca?
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Tripping in the hood is next level. I didn’t know you were in the streets like that
I agree that combining LSD and DMT works really well, though my experience with this combo is pretty limited. From what I remember, it led to a seamless experience of ego dissolution, without going super deep on the DMT, per se.
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