Syrian rue+cannabis+tryptophan=dmt?

[Panpsychic]

So first experience has been somewhat underwhelming...perhaps I should have taken more. Doesn't say much as this is the first time trying this way. I wasn't feeling much effects so waited until 1.5 hours rather the usual 1 hour when I consume the tea.

Took a big toke of Enhanced leaf...it felt more like a straight DMT smoke since it was a flash then gone again in 10 mins rather than the usual 25-30 mins I am used to with the tea. So less MAOI activation for me than with the tea from this experiment but I need to obviously repeat more times to get a feel for it.

Anyway I will do again in a few days with the DMT, but just try upping the dosage of ground rue itself in the following days to 2.5- 3 grams.

The tea will definitely always have a place at the very least as a top up means to extend quickly if I can get the ground seeds liquid shot method to consistently be effective going forward.

 

[somanaut]

Rue is infinite, the possibilites with it are endless, there is no celing to it, but i havent been able to take more than 13g, other than the 30gs i took years ago (spaced out throughout the day) that showed me everything i needed to see and made me fall in love with rue, i went to heaven and came back, till this day i cannot forget the feelings i felt that day, even though idk what those feelings really are.

Ime, rue becomes an almost entirely different substance when you go past 7g, the only words i have to describe it is timeless and infinite.

Also, i think cannabis is essential for turning rue+tryptophan into tryptamine, not sure how tho, but it plays a huge role.

I'm surprised, is 30g even possible? Wouldn't the beta-carbolines be quite toxic at that dose, regardless of tolerance?

 

[harmala_afficianado]

I'm surprised, is 30g even possible? Wouldn't the beta-carbolines be quite toxic at that dose, regardless of tolerance?

I really have no idea, the experience itself felt forbidden, i was trying to do telekinesis lol, it felt like the laws of the universe where under my hand, at the time i just felt like god made this experience specifically for me, thats it, the experience is really far from any human language to describe, and the emotions i felt were something from a verryyy high dimension, all i know was what i saw that day was the truth, and it is completely unlike any other psychedelic experience i have ever had.

 

[northape]

I agree tho that the taste is an important part and contributes to the experience, but i think after becoming tolerant to rue and the rue spirit is now a part of you, i think its not as important, ive tasted the stuff way more than i can count and i got really tired

The taste of rue tea (especially when cooked with acetic acid) being unforgettable is a topic deserving its own thread. We joked in chat once that it leaves a karmic imprint, so you can remember rue in your next incarnation

As for the "Rue spirit", I suppose I don't really think in those terms, but God Consciousness is plenty accessible through the Harmala + DMT and has been for some time.

Whatever terms we use, they point in the same direction. Rue does connect you to the divine, but I would not describe it as other. It is your own light in the end.

Im not the guy to trust any entity when tripping, the harmala entity is the only entity that i know for a fact has good intentions.

I agree. Spirit would be a more fitting word here, imo. Once again, no matter the word, your trust in rue is what matters.

I may explore taking Rue more frequently now. Tbh the effort to brew the tea even in large batches and then drinking the unpleasant tea each day was off-putting, and I have also used it always in tandem with the DMT but consuming it like this is very much more feasable as a stand alone Elixir with the DMT aiding the wings from time to time.

Wouldn't your efforts and the unpleasant taste be there by design as a part of the process? Easy roads tend to lead astray, ime.

I'm surprised, is 30g even possible? Wouldn't the beta-carbolines be quite toxic at that dose, regardless of tolerance?

It's possible, but not advisable. One would need to work up to it slowly, adapt to the medicine over months, cleanse the body, and even then drink it over a period of time.
It sounds more like a once-in-a-lifetime experience. Still, you are capable of going through it. The question is, why do it?

at the time i just felt like god made this experience specifically for me

Exactly, and most likely God (life) did just that. It was in your destiny to experience such a journey, and you did. We all try to tell our own stories about what we see. Somehow people forget that every experience is unique. You can only point in a direction, and that's it. What I experience going through the same place will be different.

I feel there are endless worlds out there, and this reality is infinitely complex. Yet, at the core, it's the same. The same awareness that looks through your eyes looks through mine. And I'm not talking about our personalities or perceptions here, but about something more fundamental - the primordial space of knowing.

So, we play our games with ourselves. Someday, when we become tired of it and stop for a second, the truth emerges. It was never hidden, but our constant moving and distractions never let attention fall on what is. May we all know our true nature.