Talking to others about dmt?

[redeyes drag on]

Do you tell other people about DMT and its effects? I find it hard not to, I mean, I would share a crazy wilderness adventure or any other kind and I feel compelled to tell others about DMT. The only problem is alot of people are uninformed of such drugs and I come off sounding like a meth addict or something.

Anyone else have this happen?

Is it best to just not talk about DMT with others?

 

[daedaloops]

Yes. With 90% of people I know psychedelics = heroin. When you try to explain it's actually the opposite of heroin because it makes you amplified to reality instead of escaping from it, you're just shrugged off as being a hippie or a nutcase. It's hard to talk with someone when they've locked their mind and threw away the key, long before you even open your mouth. Drug propaganda is doing its job.

So I've come to the conclusion best not to talk anyone about it, you'll just become needlessly flagged. But I think most people live in a better environment than me, so maybe you could talk to those who you can sense as being like-minded. And kind of ease into it I guess.

 

[○]

I only inform those who want to be informed..which are few and far between.

But even if it's just one person out of a thousand...i've done my job.

Show by example..then people around you will marvel and wonder as to what you have going for you thats "soo right".

 

[universecannon]

"Is it best to just not talk about DMT with others?"

It certainly feels amazing to rant about it with others and get it off your chest sometimes, hopefully like-minded folks. But whether or not its worth mentioning definitely depends on the person and context of it all


after being fairly open about it for years i'm a bit more reserved now, at least until i get a better idea of the persons angle on life and they're experiences/ how they will respond. A lot of times in my town people just bring it up themselves once the conversation starts edging in that direction..Its best (and simple) to gently ease into the subject,(especially if they still hold quite a bit of conditioned perceptions regarding "drugs" ) and gauge if its worth talking about it at all with them--or, if they'll just label you totally batshit crazy;]

 

[nameless]

After a while I stopped talking about it even if others bring up the subject. I found it too much hassle dealing with the misconceptions people have about it. Some people are better suited / more comfortable explaining these things than I am so it will be left to them.

To each their own

 

[Gowpen]

This is one reason the Nexus is here! Talk to us. This community will not judge you as a nutcase, quite the contrary, it's here to help you make an informed decision, with your eyes open to health and safety.

 

[anrchy]

I don't hang out with people that I am unable to talk about anything really. I haven't talked to my mom about DMT but she knows I have done mushrooms. My dads side of the family is fairly open minded and spiritual. I just had a short convo with one of my aunts where I brought up one of my DMT experiences.

I have dosed almost all of my friends. My dad.

Pot used to be a fairly large item in my life. Alcohol as well. My life is quite different now, as I don't party much anymore but my friends are all people who are atleast near the same mindset as me.

 

[thEorEtical]

I know exactly how you feel friend. It almost seems that every second of the day, i want to find someone to talk with about the subject at hand, its sad that it cant be this way. That's why I'm here tho, plenty of good hearted, mature people here to learn and grow with or learn from in some cases

 

[psychedelic_cloud]

This is one reason the Nexus is here! Talk to us. This community will not judge you as a nutcase, quite the contrary, it's here to help you make an informed decision, with your eyes open to health and safety.

Exactly! The Nexus is a great place to talk about stuff that our society's propaganda-filled minds fear or find repulsive to talk about. However, the lack of open minds that I seem to come across these days makes me feel as if my knowledge of such things is simply insignificant to spark random conversations with. I find that most of the time I'm only discussing DMT and other related substances with people that are either curious or have had previous experiences. Aside from that, I generally try to keep my thoughts to myself. I'd rather not deal with the social stigma of being a "drug user".. especially when many people are too ignorant to realize that not all recreationally-used drugs are used to "get high" and that some help people attain deeper states of spirituality and expanded-consciousness.

Peace,
psychedelic_cloud

 

[Global]

If I'm talking to someone who I don't want to know that I use DMT myself, I will still talk about it, but just make it sound like I've done some interesting reading or something of the sort. Unfortunately, it can hard to make a solid case to skeptics sometimes if I can't pull my personal experiences out of the hat, and am forced to rely on what I've allegedly read.

 

[2C]

Like others have said, you end up sounding like a massive druggie if you mention these sorts of things.

I once mentioned to my older brother (by three years) my first LSD experience when I ended up dropping 3 tabs, followed an hour later by a line of coke and ketamine mixed together and then tripping my balls off from 16+ hours (I was young and has a very nieve approach to substances at this point, I now take pride in moderation and not going to excess).


I finished the story expecting an interesting conversation about the experience and instead got "think its time you went to see someone".

I still get lectures from my parents about my cannabis smoking/vaporing despite no longer taking with tobacco and they are daily alcohol drinkers (worse drug of them all!). They think my cannabis use is far worse than my brother being a tobacco smoker from the age of 14.

Man we live in a fucked up world!

 

[tele]

Sure but only with people who already know what it is. To uninformed people it would be kind of unpleasant trying to explain something like this so briefly.

But that's what we have the nexus for!:d

 

[arcanum]

As an enlightened "user" you represent probably less than 0.1% of the worlds population who has first hand knowledge of such things. It's normal that 99.9% of people will think your're a nut job if you strike up a conversation on the experience itself. I've managed to intrigue one or two individuals, but haved never convinced them of anything relating to the dmt experience.

 

[Felnik]

Its amazing how quickly you come up against cultural preconditioning and missinformation
when you start talking about this stuff with people.

At first i wanted to tell everyone about it . Now i just keep very quiet , talking only to a select few friends who understand.

Personally I would keep a lid on it with most people , its way beyond the comprehension of most.

to each his own but in my opinion loose lips sink ships yo...

The less people that know about my antics the better.

 

[cosmic butterfly]

depends who ofcourse, there those few ppl i know that are facinated by it and open minded enough for such things and those too brainwashed to listen. When i started out i also said the whole world needs to know about this, but than learned just not possible with todays screwed up society, a drug is a drug is drug and to them we are the druggie

 

[Psychonaut In Orbit]

lol... The very first time I did DMT I immediately told my mother afterwards. I literally did my first trip... calmed down and then drove over to my mother's place (around 5-10 minutes away) and talked to her for almost 2 hours. This wasn't some new concept or territory though cause my mother tried 'cid while she was in college in the late 70s so tripping is definitely nothing new for her. She was soooo fascinated on how articulate and passionate I was about this beautiful "molecule" and she knows with that kind of positive attitude switch that there was something VERY powerful with this "molecule" because I have bouts of depression all the time.

I don't take anything for it... just ride it out and cope. I do smoke weed almost daily and I must say it helps... but DMT is nothing like that. I told my mother this... and she was genuinely intrigued about it. Besides my mother, I have told a few close family members and even introduced it to a few "like-minded" individuals that I know could handle themselves.

When someone brings it up just out and about then I observe the situation before I comment. If someone is just bad mouthing the "Spirit Molecule" 9/10 I'm going to intervene on principle... the other 1/10 times that person is TOO far gone and too wrapped up in their comfort zone to hear anything I have to say so I let them finish living their "comfortable" lives without so much as a whisper from me.... but in my mind I'm saying "you just don't know what you are missing, friend..."

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Aside from all my friends who I've dosed, and the nexus, and my mom, no.

Sadly, it is hard to keep something so beautiful secret. You don't want to agitate the herd of sheeple.
I feel dmt is my religion, my holy sacrement, which is being suppressed. Not that I'm a bible thumper, but I feel like this is an oppression of God. My "church" doesn't ask for 10% of wages to worship. It is not monarchal. It does not claim to be the only way to paradise. It Definetly does not say that drug users are not loved by God. (unlike most religions).

When the world is ready the world will be ready.

We are persecuted and prosecuted by prostitutes of propaganda.

But here, your family.

 

[spiritual7pioneer]

I don't really care to share my experiences with many people.
They just simply cannot comprehend how significant it is to me, and I get slightly offended
when people just act like I'm talking to them about some party drug.

 

[Gowpen]

I gave up worrying what other people though of me a long time ago, however, I need to fit into my niche in society, so I shave and grunt good morning like most in my field/sphere. Its appropriate for me to voice my opinion about differenciating between different drugs, in fact everything is a drug/chemical. First rule of freedom; I am allowed to voice (if I have the vocabulary) my opinion ! Once I do the second rule kicks in ; I will evaluate any dialog concerning it (effect reaction ). Third rule; belive there are many answers to the same questions hahaha Humour is the centrr of the universe, NOTHING is certain, I need a holiday.......Its not appropriate to draw attention to myself as such, I always quote books and such...............Its only a drug because you put it in your body, too much water (8.5 lts) will kill you !!. Alcohol does the most damage to both the individual and society generally, always add that one to the conversation...... Scoring drugs

The biggest risk in life.... is to risk nothing at all !!
Whats best ?.......... to be a good egg, work 45 years for a retirement clock. OR reach for the sky ? Or BOTH !!!

Its all about motivation really, what mows your lawn ? and why you do it... are you compensating for something (Self harm/ deffeatism, self sabortaging etc etc...) Or are you really celebrating life....???? To me, Your 20's/30's are (should ! I Know ...... preaching !! cut me some slack here pweeeze) like going into a fab shopping centre !! trying new things, getting good at some, bad at others......40's/50's are like remembering the places you liked best and revisiting them, hopefully getting good at more things than you are bad at (hahaha).... Just remembering all the while that 'learning new things' was always a facinating pastime .... and .....as you get older, be familiar with the things that stay/ied the same !!!
(beginning of a quote)
To steer the barque of this life over the seas of passion is the highest degree of perfection human nature can attain.
Just do your best !

So..... I will/would like to, try and include DMT in my life conversations with people I interact with. Im not asshamed of it, I am proud of it. Sorts your friends out !!
Maybe we could develope techniques to slip it into conversations in such clever and intellegent ways that we might 'attract' the right attention... any thoughts.... We need some convinced jounalism perhaps (opened my self up here to critique !! )

Just anicdotally, I met Shaun Tan the other day http://www.australianedge.net/none/interview-with-illustrator-shaun-tan/
and I so wanted a 'Nexus DMT' badge or something, cos I wanted to ask him if he had DMT experiences, just a hunch hahaha......
I could see the benefit of a 'NEXDMT' or 'NEXT DM' 'T' shirt or badge or ummmmm......

Would love to pass the message but dont know how..!!
Regards

 

[Skitty]

This reminds me of a Terrance Mckenna talk I heard recently where he stated "We need to come out of the psychedelic closet..." I definitely get sick of getting looked at like a crazy person in conversations, and so many people that I have budding friendships with are constantly dismayed/shocked at how often the topic of "drugs" seems to come up when we are conversing over a few beers, but I don't see how I can avoid it. We get into current event topics and inevitably economics, occupy wall street, wars, presidents, etc all come up. How can any of these things be separated from the irreversible perspectives gained about the whole "game" that can be seen from the vantage point of psychedelics? If I'm being honest with people, I really can't help but bring up the truths that seem so self-evident in a psychedelic state of mind (although by no means always require a psychedelic state of mind to perceive). I find myself forgetting how thoroughly many otherwise intelligent people (and myself at one point) are so constricted in their thought processes. For me, it's not even about describing any certain experience, as that would be pointless anyway, but trying to honestly express my justifiable enthusiasm towards the mystery and hoping that some if it results in a little more openminded curiosity and acceptance of the field as a whole, perhaps even to the point of someone seeking out their own adventure inwards. It's always easy to change the subject and laugh it off if people start to get too weirded out, and at this point it seems that there is really nothing to lose by spreading a fresh perspective. Never know who is primed just behind the threshold of the subconscious to embark on a whole new life.