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pastanostra said:Thank you Endlessness for your publication
Around the internet, this is the more recent analysis of this tree, last one was in 1974 by poupat ... I'm still dubitative concerning the compound. The old study claims for more compounds (formymethyl tryptamine, b-carboline).
To add a bit of information, the lower trunk bark has been "washed" by separating outer trunk bark (sun/air exposed) and inner trunk bark (inside part, near the trunk) before extracting. Only the inner bark has been used for extraction. Maybe it could affect yield and compounds/yield.
The old study claim to have harvested bark in May, us was in October (before dry season / after dry season), and just after the peak of a full moon...
I have bark in the freezer from another tree, that have been harvested in february, no extractions have been conducted on atm.
Our further way for research is too :
- wait for a full moon on a wednesday near october
- harvest bark on the same tree at sunrise
- dry it
- conduct extraction on a wednesday at sunrise
Why wednesday ? Because we believe in that acacia trees are under influence of the Mercury planet, so the days for acting on is wednesday. We may see if theses factor can act on our actions. In spagyrie medicine, this is crucial to enhance the quintessence of our final elixir
Thank you, once again, for time you take, for your implication and the work you do for us.
Cheers
Freebase Bufotenine Solubility
Acetone @ 20 C: soluble (5 g/100 ml)
Chloroform @ 20 C: soluble
Dichloromethane @ 20 C: soluble
Dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO) @ 20 C: soluble (6 g/100 ml)
D-Limonene (Orange Oil) @ 20 C: insoluble
D-Limonene (Orange Oil) @ 176 C: soluble (more than 1.7 g/100 ml)
Ethanol @ 20 C: soluble
Ether @ 20 C: soluble
Ethyl acetate @ 20 C: soluble
Heptane @ 20 C: insoluble
Heptane with 40% MEK @ 20 C: soluble (0.53 g/100 ml)
Heptane with 50% MEK @ 20 C: soluble (1.22 g/100 ml)
IPA @ 20 C: soluble
MEK @ 20 C: soluble
Methanol @ 20 C: soluble
Naphtha @ 20 C: insoluble
Water @ 20 C: nearly insoluble in pure water (no acid or alkali added)
Xylene @ 20 C: nearly insoluble (less than 0.03 g/100 ml)
Xylene @ 144 C: soluble (1.5 g/100 ml)
Quetzal7 said:Hiya
looking for advices here
a previous of A.dealbata rootbark show some bufotenine
I want to confirm that result and get more quantitative data
I collected some rootbark & bark of A.Dealbata and will perform an extraction to send for analysis
Question : which TEK would you use to get the Bufotenine & any other alkaloid (dmt or so... ) present?
We want to be rather full spectrum, we don't need to end with a crystal clean product (on the opposite, i guess it's better to be full spectrum)
I was thinking to use a Lime-TEK with Ethyl acetate, but i never sow a tek using EA for acacias... there's maybe a reason ?
Last time i used a A/B with Limonene, but now i see bufo is not supposed to dissolve in Limonene so...
Freebase Bufotenine Solubility
Acetone @ 20 C: soluble (5 g/100 ml)
Chloroform @ 20 C: soluble
Dichloromethane @ 20 C: soluble
Dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO) @ 20 C: soluble (6 g/100 ml)
D-Limonene (Orange Oil) @ 20 C: insoluble
D-Limonene (Orange Oil) @ 176 C: soluble (more than 1.7 g/100 ml)
Ethanol @ 20 C: soluble
Ether @ 20 C: soluble
Ethyl acetate @ 20 C: soluble
Heptane @ 20 C: insoluble
Heptane with 40% MEK @ 20 C: soluble (0.53 g/100 ml)
Heptane with 50% MEK @ 20 C: soluble (1.22 g/100 ml)
IPA @ 20 C: soluble
MEK @ 20 C: soluble
Methanol @ 20 C: soluble
Naphtha @ 20 C: insoluble
Water @ 20 C: nearly insoluble in pure water (no acid or alkali added)
Xylene @ 20 C: nearly insoluble (less than 0.03 g/100 ml)
Xylene @ 144 C: soluble (1.5 g/100 ml)
..the latest round of tests are really interesting...very good work endlessness, thank you for continuing to bring acacia knowledge into the future!
i'd like to comment in detail when i get some time, for now i'd say some of the significant or take-home points are:
- the finding of Bufotenine as the principle alkaloid in Acacia dealbata is a real scientific first and very significant..bufotenine has been found only very occasionally (mostly unpublished) in acacias in usually traces along with various other alkaloids, but never as the sole or principal alkaloid..even though this is a low percentage in this single example, given individual and type variation, and just how widespread worldwide this Australian species is, makes it of real interest for future research...
- Acacia retinodes UK ...this is at least the second (i think third, i'll re-check) finding of DMT (and other alkaloids) in this Australian species when grown outside Australia (the others being in Germany)...this species fits into my 'interesting' category which i'll talk about more in a future post
- Acacia maidenii UK...this is a second, and therefore important confirmation of DMT outside of it's native NSW/Qld...the other case being the USA
- Acacia acuminata narrow leaf Brazil ...i tell you, that would be a really interesting experience (see Entheogenic Effects of NMT )
- Acacia confusa Stem...this finally updates the previously inadequate 'textbook' so to speak of this species...people who use and really resonate with this tree are i think gaining a lot from the additional N-methyltryptamine...though i note there's been some recently discovered previously unknown indoles in the species which i'll post on when i get a chance..
my one query is with the "percentage of extract" figures in a few of them...i can imagine some crude extracts having additional things in there, but a clean A/B of an acacia should be at least 90-95% alkaloids...(?)
keep it rolling endlessness and the Nexus!
Hi there guys,
DMT noob here, did my first extraction from mimosa hostilis a few months ago, and long story short, I realised that there are plenty of Acacia retinodes where I live.
Would it be worth trying to extract from this particular species? If yes, would the root bark be the part to look at?
Cheers!
Thanks mate! Some useful info there indeedGreetings!
You might find this thread of interest.
Yes absolutely worth testing Acacia retinodes.. in fact it is probably one of the acacia in most need of follow up, as its has very promising results. Rootbark harvest is not neccesary and will most likely kill the tree.. especially with Australian species. Twig/phyllode will work fine to give an idea if there is anything interesting.Hi there guys,
DMT noob here, did my first extraction from mimosa hostilis a few months ago, and long story short, I realised that there are plenty of Acacia retinodes where I live.
Would it be worth trying to extract from this particular species? If yes, would the root bark be the part to look at?
Cheers!
Many thanks for the response mate, sounds very promising!Yes absolutely worth testing Acacia retinodes.. in fact it is probably one of the acacia in most need of follow up, as its has very promising results. Rootbark harvest is not neccesary and will most likely kill the tree.. especially with Australian species. Twig/phyllode will work fine to give an idea if there is anything interesting.
A test on cultivated plants in Germany yielded around 0.5% DMT.. I will try and find a link to the study.