The Drive to Survive?

[Cazman043]

What is the point of our existence, this question continues to pester me as i feel i've lost all things that i held dear to "me". Looking at this question, i wonder to myself, well why do humans feel a need to continue to live on?
What is it keeping you here on earth? Is it Family, friends? A job? Isn't it funny that all that stuff will float away at some point!
When you die, people will grieve, your parents and family more so than friends, but sooner or later, you're going to be forgotten anyways. I look at my friendship groups, my family, and whilst i was travelling, in reality, they did not miss me, maybe a little, but everyones lives continue on with or without you. So what is the point of surviving if everyone will continue to live the same, with or without you?
So whats stopping you from dying NOW? Why not die NOW? What is it thats holding you back and is that really a good thing?

 

[TGO]

"The Greatest thing you'll ever learn is to love, and to be loved in return..."

That is what I live for, man. It may be a simple goal but life is just a journey, one of possibly many. Why are we here? Who knows...but I'll be damned if I don't at least try to make the most of what I've got right here and now. And if there is nothing in the end when we die, well at least I had the honor of existing for a mere blip of time.

Live, laugh, love and smoalk moar!

 

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What is the point of our existence, this question continues to pester me as i feel i've lost all things that i held dear to "me". Looking at this question, i wonder to myself, well why do humans feel a need to continue to live on?
What is it keeping you here on earth? Is it Family, friends? A job? Isn't it funny that all that stuff will float away at some point!
When you die, people will grieve, your parents and family more so than friends, but sooner or later, you're going to be forgotten anyways. I look at my friendship groups, my family, and whilst i was travelling, in reality, they did not miss me, maybe a little, but everyones lives continue on with or without you. So what is the point of surviving if everyone will continue to live the same, with or without you?
So whats stopping you from dying NOW? Why not die NOW? What is it thats holding you back and is that really a good thing?

What is life about?

What is the meaning of life?

What is the meaning of your life?

Thoughts about the meaning of life?

These threads might help a bit.

What is keeping me on earth? Hehe, look around! Experience, simple. While im here, im going to do what I can, given my parameters. I want to experience what this crazy life has to offer.

Life's beautiful in many ways. Sure, there's alot of not-so-good going on in the world, but also there's alot of good; all in what you choose to hone your focus in on and pursue. There's always been two sides to everything. Such is life. Cycle after cycle. This in itself is liberating to me; knowing the inherent ephemeral nature of existence on this planet. Rise and fall. Eat and/or be eaten. Spinning the wheel once more.

Who cares who forgets who? Regardless of family, friends or what have you, we're all individuals living this life within the confines of our own subjective experience. We come in alone and go out alone. In that, we as individuals imo have to make the most of what's here, given our situation.

It's typical for people to fade over time, in memories especially. Not all memories fade, but many will. Some have incredible memory, but for most, it's hard enough to know in specifics what one had done 3-4 days ago, detail for detail. Memory is/can be just as ephemeral as life, so hang on to them while you can.

With that said, appreciate every breath, every second. It's a miracle that anything exists at all, let alone Life as it stands now.

Living in the moment' isn't necessarily philosophical garble or new-age hanky panky. I think that statement holds more weight than we give it credit for.

 

[DoingKermit]

What keeps me here on earth?

I have to say LOVE in general keeps me here. My love for the mystery of life and the people in it really does keep me going. My family and friends mean so much to me, as well as the planet we live on. If they were to forget about me, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. What matters is the impact we have on each others lives now.

Sometimes trying to figure life out can be confusing and scary. During my last changa trip, the message was to stop needing answers so much and start trying to just "be". I guess it was trying to tell me that the purpose of life is sometimes as simple as just "living".

 

[Nitegazer]

One way of looking at this for me is to imagine my life in the absence of the things I care most deeply about one at a time. When I think of something I couldn't live without, it must be something that keeps me going.

For me, I think it's incidental human connection. Not those 'big' moments staring into someone's eyes and professing love, but the little things, like laughing with a stranger after they slip on ice, or getting a flash of gratitude after letting some harried mother ahead of me in the grocery line.

These moments remind me that connection is the reality and alienation is an illusion, rather than the other way around.

 

[null24]

Not sure if your experiencing depression or just an existential ennui, OP, but I can relate to both. I have dealt with suicidal ideation for as long as I can remember. Two serious attempts at a severely depressed life junction didn't convince me it was a bad idea. (Wake up after a suicide attempt- that's a bad day)

What did was DMT. An artificial conscious death allowed me a certain level of understanding that before had eluded me. All the pain and all the struggle are just troughs of a wave, the triumphs and joys the peaks. We live upon this wave filled ocean of experience, a thin skin upon the surface if reality. Every now and then, we can use the gifts of our tech to peer beneath, we can smoalk and dive beneath the waves for a moment, to see.

Otherwise, the pinnacle of evolution that is mind allows us to interact with this world by simply being in it. Love, laugh, cry. That's what it's about.

I could get even more mystical and spiritual in my explanation, and will if you want, but suffice to say you decided to be here and experience this. Nothing has ever just happened.

 

[tseuq]

So whats stopping you from dying NOW? Why not die NOW?

Birth implies death, thus life can also be seen as a process of dying, we literally came to die.


"Hello, I am here!" It is just so freaking unbelieveable, what a mastery of creation of oneself consciousness.


So, we come to play the game, because the show must go on. :lol:

The mysterium doesn't leave any answer unquestioned.

What about you, Cazman043?

tseuq

 

[Cazman043]

What about you, Cazman043?

tseuq[/quote]

Currently, having feeling lost everything, i've nothing really keeping me alive. But this comes from the standpoint of EGO! It is only the ego whom dies, so why not let it die NOW? You live on, whether you choose to commit suicide, or die in an unsuspected moment, you do not die, you just move onto a new experience. It surely is to experience all things and be deeply human about life. But to feel deeply about life is what will create a desire to continue to live. If one feels a need to continue to live, or if one feels disconnected from this world and separate, i think then one needs to look at what it is they're holding onto. We need to die in order to be reborn, its just who you identify with, and if you aren't identifying with ego, then you're happy to die in any moment, and maybe you're also happy to live in every moment, because it really doesn't make much of a difference, they're both the same thing.

 

[tseuq]

Dying/Living all the way. Maybe "to die" can signify "to let go" of whatever there is, to join the cosmic game of the now. In my experience, the last step language and intellect can not fully take. Even if they are perfect tools in their reality, one transcends.

It appears to me, that there are all these different, maybe endless, layers of the experience, densed with different realities of the same divine.

Why don't identify with all of them? Why do not fully engage in what appears of all divine creation?

Let us play the game and get lost in the experience, living your dreams.

love, tseuq

How can one know, that the world goes on after one dies?

 

[hixidom]

Love is a big factor, but I think the other side of the coin is instinct: As animals, surviving is what we do naturally. If you strip away all of the layers of consciousness and complex thinking, what you'll find is that on some level we are quite content to just eat and sleep. You could call that a form of "love", but I think that sidesteps the important point here, which is that we are not always in control of our actions and desires. To some extent, we are machines and the question "why..." is irrelevant.

 

[tseuq]

If you strip away all of the layers of consciousness and complex thinking, what you'll find is that on some level we are quite content to just eat and sleep.

To me, transcending means being open for a post-rational thinking.

F.e. There is a glass filled with oil, herbs and dried tomatos and let's say, that the smallest layer is just oil. The next layer are maybe the herbs which are soaked with oil, so they include the previous stage. They sit on the also soaked tomatos which might be the next layer and they all are in the glas. A new layer, which contains all previous ones. Every layer includes everything "below" itself and is true in its reality.

Referred to thinking: As a child we develop a pre-rational thinking (f.e. magic) which evolve to a rational thinking (f.e. scientific explanation) when we get older. The next step would be a post-rational thinking, which might look similar on the first sight to the pre-rational thinking but includes all the rationality from the previous stage, but is ultimately not limited to it.

the question "why..." is irrelevant.

Irrelevant for what and whom? The one who is asking or in gerneral (whatever that is)? Referred to the layer-model, there might be a reality in which the question "why" appears relevant. Can you remember yourself asking "why..."?

Why do not identify with all these layers of all divine? There are so many worlds we live in, animal, ego, machine, god, ...

tseuq

 

[travsha]

Living is fun. I am already here so I might as well make the most of it.

When I die, I am sure that will be interesting too. No need to rush anything - it will come soon enough on its own.

If life is a ride you might as well try to enjoy it when you can.

 

[anne halonium]

i dunno about you guys,
but this fly girl has things to do.

theres lots beezzness to do,
studio to build,
club to dominate,
lovers to love,
drugs to grow, and teks to publish.........

this is why i need a maid/ personal assistant.

never was big on spectator sports.
i prefer to live and die the legend.

 

[tseuq]

If life is a ride you might as well try to enjoy it when you can.

Where we might end up here?

tseuq

 

[Nitegazer]

It appears to me, that there are all these different, maybe endless, layers of the experience, densed with different realities of the same divine.

Why don't identify with all of them? Why do not fully engage in what appears of all divine creation?

Let us play the game and get lost in the experience, living your dreams.

love, tseuq

Sounds blissful, just remember that eventually we all need to come down off the mountain.

How can one know, that the world goes on after one dies?

Because the flow of time is illusion. All time is eternal.