The new kid on the block !!

[Earthwalker]

The new face of DMT !!!

Some would say that Terrence McKenna would not only be one of the most educated but the most recognized person on the subject of DMT and they'd be correct !!!..............
So it brings this question into veiw !! Is Joe Rogan is he the new and up coming face of DMT ??? ....... I no he swears a lot and is loud and brash but I think that's why the new generation and old alike find him appealing it's quite refreshing to hear someone just talk the way they think !!.......I find he's not only very intelligant but I hear he's quite the pshychonoght aswell !!!... I have been around the block with recreational drugs but had never herd of DMT till I seen joe on YouTube and after watching I was hooked , 99% of the ppl who have delved into the world of dmt say that that's not just a coincidence its fate and that DMT found me and I think that's true ! ,, but back to the question at hand ! I'd say yes he could very well be the new face and I think he'd be a good reprosentative !! but that's my way of thinking what do you guys think ???

 

[cyb]

Is Joe Rogan is he the new and up coming face of DMT

God help us if he is!....
He needs to get his facts straight first before he peddles anymore misinformation to the masses.
(Do your own research before you take anything he says as true...most of it isn't)

Graham Hancock would be a much more intelligent and worthy successor to TMK imo (although not quite as verbose)

 

[Earthwalker]

Is Joe Rogan is he the new and up coming face of DMT

God help us if he is!....
He needs to get his facts straight first before he peddles anymore misinformation to the masses.
(Do your own research before you take anything he says as true...most of it isn't)

Graham Hancock would be a much more intelligent and worthy successor to TMK imo (although not quite as verbose)

I'm sure you're proberly right cyb , you are way more experienced then I in the topic , but I think that it can't be a bad thing to be passionate about you're beliefs , and he is responsible for bringing dmt to the attention of many of thousands of people and that is the goal isn't it to make ppl aware ????

 

[endlessness]

I`ll disagree with cyb here. I think Joe Rogan seems like a pretty cool dude, and even though he does make some factual mistakes, he often admits his mistakes, tells people to double check things and be skeptical, etc. He also offers some well reasoned perspective and different interpretations and questions his interviewees when they tell stories that aren`t belieavable or that they only told one possible interpretation. When talking about `is it real?` kind of questions regarding dmt and psychedelics, he is pretty pragmatic, saying that what matters is the impact it has on one`s life, etc.

Listen to some of his podcasts if you havent yet, for example the one where he interviews `lorenzo` from the psychedelic salon.

That being said, I think this whole looking for a `face of dmt` thing, and expecting a famous person to offer answers for one`s own life, is unnecessary and often counter productive, because people start taking words literally and do not question what they hear. Also there are a lot of people who are very immature and just refuse to take responsibility for their actions so they need the face of someone famous to decide things. Joe Rogan himself is always saying for people to stop asking him for advice and to figure for themselves, to `get their s**** together`.

Also, I found Graham Hancock to put out speculation as if they were facts, I didn`t like the talk I heard from him at all some years ago...


But no, the goal we have is not to get more people to know dmt, our goal is so that people who already find out about dmt, get access to good information instead of misinformation.

 

[3rdI]

I like JR a lot, but I don't think he would be, or wants to be, the face of DMT. I have heard him say that he has largely stopped talking about DMT now since that's all anyone wants him to talk about in interviews ect.

Does DMT need a face in everyday reality? I don't think so

I don't think TMK can be replaced.

 

[Earthwalker]

I`ll disagree with cyb here. I think Joe Rogan seems like a pretty cool dude, and even though he does make some factual mistakes, he often admits his mistakes, tells people to double check things and be skeptical, etc. He also offers some well reasoned perspective and different interpretations and questions his interviewees when they tell stories that aren`t belieavable or that they only told one possible interpretation. When talking about `is it real?` kind of questions regarding dmt and psychedelics, he is pretty pragmatic, saying that what matters is the impact it has on one`s life, etc.

Listen to some of his podcasts if you havent yet, for example the one where he interviews `lorenzo` from the psychedelic salon.

That being said, I think this whole looking for a `face of dmt` thing, and expecting a famous person to offer answers for one`s own life, is unnecessary and often counter productive, because people start taking words literally and do not question what they hear. Also there are a lot of people who are very immature and just refuse to take responsibility for their actions so they need the face of someone famous to decide things. Joe Rogan himself is always saying for people to stop asking him for advice and to figure for themselves, to `get their s**** together`.

Also, I found Graham Hancock to put out speculation as if they were facts, I didn`t like the talk I heard from him at all some years ago...


But no, the goal we have is not to get more people to know dmt, our goal is so that people who already find out about dmt, get access to good information instead of misinformation.

This is why I love this forum and the members in it it's just fascinating that we can talk openly and have so many interesting veiws on the above mentioned topic , I must say again with out JR pod casts and YouTube vids I would never of known and that lead me to here witch in so ever grateful !! I can see cybs point of veiw though but to each there own !!

And 3rdI I agree TMK could never be replaced that's for sure as he was such a special one off !!

 

[acacian]

another vote for graham hancock here who has recently become an increasngly central spokesmen for dmt and ayahuasca...I by no means view him as the next terence mckenna but that is simply because he is not terence mckenna, he is graham hancock.. another great mind...but different ideas and different way of expresing them. as far as a spokesperson for altered states of consciousness and the freedom to explore it I think he is a hugely important figure who is touching the hearts of many at the moment and in my eyes will go down in history as somebody who did a lot of good for humanity at a time when it was most needed...

I love his play of words on the war on drugs - "the war on consciousness"

 

[Elpo]

Why would we want only one face for dmt? Why can't we have Hancock and Rogan?
I believe it adds more credibility to see two totally different personalities talking about dmt and ayahuasca. In this way stereotyping becomes harder which is always a good thing.

I think nowadays all kinds of people are using dmt, no matter where they come from, where they are brought up. I think it would be best to represent as many of these people as possible through different characters in the media.

In my opinion the documentaries that are coming out these last few years like "Neurons to Nirvana" "Sacred Science" and now "Aya Awakenings" are a big help and hopefully the directors of these films will become spokespersons as well.

The more the merrier.

 

[anrchy]

Rogan was my path to learning about DMT. I think too many people take him too seriously. If you watch a lot of his podcasts you can understand more of his viewpoint. Often times in most of them he states that he doesn't really know what he is talking about. And I have heard him proclaim many times "I am not a smart person, I just remember what smart people say".

The whole spokesperson thing though is not needed. Psychedelics are more a community thing. The nexus is sorta known as The Community as far as DMT goes. I really liked listening to Rogan talking about DMT before I ventured off on my own with it. He stopped talking about it and I understand why. Although I am not convinced he has only done it 5 times as he stated a few times or so.

DMT is its own amazing spokes person. It alone has been the cause of its rapid spreading like a wild fire. I'm sure eventually it will slow down and keep an even pace.

 

[Entheogenerator]

But no, the goal we have is not to get more people to know dmt, our goal is so that people who already find out about dmt, get access to good information instead of misinformation.

This.

I like Joe Rogan, I think he is very funny and I appreciate the perspectives and ideas I have heard him present. But in no way is he the new Terence McKenna. Joe Rogan is Joe Rogan, and Terence McKenna is Terence McKenna, and I wouldn't have it any other way. They both have their own experiences, perspectives, and ideas to share; which are all valuable in their own way.

I agree that DMT is a very good spokesperson for itself. But I think as far as the "face" of DMT, The Nexus does a pretty spectacular job of representing the molecule for those who seek information.