The tunnel phase.

[ab381]

Hello guys,

Cant believe i have never asked this question before but what do you think the significance of the seeing and traveling down the tunnels when using psychedelics could actually mean. I have experienced this myself when using Salvia Divonorum and i know its almost a constant factor in many other peoples trips as well. With Salvia & DMT i suppose it happens more often than other substances as they provide much more potent inner experiences & another interesting distinction is that people report traveling down similar tunnels when they have Near Death Experiences which makes me wonder if their is a direct link here. So what do you all think of this, as my personal belief is that these tunnels are actually some kind of portals for when your shifting your consciousness from one state/dimension to another but hey that's just my take on it.

 

[۩]

Quantum tunnels through consciousness bypassing space/time.

 

[Cognitive Heart]

Is the image above accurate in depicting what quantum tunneling looks like visually? I suppose its a very prominent representation and more likely occurs with N,N-DMT and Salvia Divinorum, but very spectacular indeed. I've experienced this sensation with Ipomoea Tricolor(100 seeds). It was as if my field of vision was being subjected and immersed to this quantum-like vacuum. It was visually very fluid, gentle, fast-moving, rippling, and hypnotic(OEV). The intensity was moderate yet the wave-like movement was floating in front of me, leading me on. In other words, the phenomena was detailed 'form constants.'

I agree that these experiences are portal-like and represent the diverse nature of other dimensions being shifted and 'by-passed' with psychoactives, specifically psychedelics/entheogens.

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[f1]

Undoubtably one of my most lucid dream, I was able to open portals and reside within them and travel through the 'other side'.

 

[ab381]

Thanks everyone for providing a scientific name for these tunnels as i had never really looked into quantum tunneling before. @f1 what happened when you went over to the other side, was the experience similar to breaking through on a DMT trip and was it a pleasant experience after breaking-through ?

 

[۩]

Technically scientifically we don't know how these particular phenomena work. We only know that they happen. That is just what I call it because it's what makes most sense to me that I can convey into language at this time. When you take a look at what's happening you can get a better idea of the big picture and things start making more sense.

DMT is just one of the many factors in all of this as it gives us unfiltered access to consciousness. Consciousness is working on this level at all times.

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

There's a great book called "Spiritual Doorways In The Brain: A Neurologists Quest For The God Experience" that touches on the subjects in tunnels that appear often in NDEs.

His working theory is that, as blood flow to the eyes fail, peripheral vision begins to fail, creating 'tunnel vision,' as it is commonly called. Couple tunnel vision with wild hallucinations, and it makes sense that we could perceive ourselves as being in tunnels.

I wondered if DMTs properties as a powerful cranial vasoconstrictor might contribute to this.

 

[۩]

That's a nice theory and all, but it doesn't explain the function of the tunnel and just scrapes the surface of a visual of one.

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

Who says it needs to have a function? Maybe it just is, because of how our brains are organized.

 

[۩]

I do, for one, because these phenomenal functions are being observed. The interconnected quantum-like nature of consciousness that bypasses our window of spacetime can not be explained by a little vasoconstriction. It is a tremendous oversimplification.

Maybe some vasoconstriction does cause tunnel vision, but that has basically nothing to do with this in my humble opinion. What is going on here goes far beyond mere visuals and steps into very peculiar territory.

 

[Cognitive Heart]

I agree. When I witnessed this phenomena, it felt as if this tunnel was coming out of the air itself. With eyes closed, this phenomena disappeared leaving me with red eyelids, and then returning to this tunnel once opening my eyes again. They seem to function within the external boundaries(IME) and form quicker and clearer when focused on for periods of 'time.' The idea of time doesn't even function when witnessing these tunnels, time fades away. They make you re-examine the concept of time after initially experiencing them.

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Vasoconstriction is occurring with almost all entheogens/compounds, yes, but this definitely doesn't do it just. By covering it over with medical data we may as well forget the whole idea of hyper-dimensional tunnels. Perhaps 'Spiritual Doorways In The Brain: A Neurologists Quest For The God Experience' can inquire something other than medically examining the effects within the organism. I feel there is a difference between what we medically call 'tunnel vision,' and actually experiencing life-like dimensions on unusual stabilizations.

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[Global]

I do, for one, because these phenomenal functions are being observed. The interconnected quantum-like nature of consciousness that bypasses our window of spacetime can not be explained by a little vasoconstriction. It is a tremendous oversimplification.

Maybe some vasoconstriction does cause tunnel vision, but that has basically nothing to do with this in my humble opinion. What is going on here goes far beyond mere visuals and steps into very peculiar territory.

I agree with House. I don't feel that "tunnel vision" is the culprit of these visions involving tunnels. IME the tunnels are often contextual in the sense that not everything is tunneled, and often these tunnels appear in the same place. An example of a small tunnel I see quite often in hyperspace is like this tiny crawlspace that leads between adjoining rooms of a mansion I regularly frequent in hyperspace. This isn't tunnel vision persay, but it is making use of the architectural structure of a tunnel. Nothing else is tunneled. Does that make sense? I should think it has little at all to do with the loss of peripheral vision or vasoconstriction.

 

[Cognitive Heart]

-A N A M O R P H O S E- : Portrayed within art.

http://www.monalyz.fr/resources/_wsb_680x509_Joconde.02.anamorphose15.jpeg
http://www.monalyz.fr/resources/joconde.07anamorphose108Web.jpeg

Other interesting ideas of what these tunnels can be and some of which I can relate to.

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[Nathanial.Dread]

I do, for one, because these phenomenal functions are being observed. The interconnected quantum-like nature of consciousness that bypasses our window of spacetime can not be explained by a little vasoconstriction. It is a tremendous oversimplification.

Maybe some vasoconstriction does cause tunnel vision, but that has basically nothing to do with this in my humble opinion. What is going on here goes far beyond mere visuals and steps into very peculiar territory.

I agree with House. I don't feel that "tunnel vision" is the culprit of these visions involving tunnels. IME the tunnels are often contextual in the sense that not everything is tunneled, and often these tunnels appear in the same place. An example of a small tunnel I see quite often in hyperspace is like this tiny crawlspace that leads between adjoining rooms of a mansion I regularly frequent in hyperspace. This isn't tunnel vision persay, but it is making use of the architectural structure of a tunnel. Nothing else is tunneled. Does that make sense? I should think it has little at all to do with the loss of peripheral vision or vasoconstriction.

That particular kind of tunnel, probably not, but when I think about my own experiences, the initial rush up a tunnel towards hyperspace is extremely reminiscent of tunnel vision, albeit a radically more psychedelic experience.

Blessings
~ND