Tips on using freebase pipe?

[SuperMarioKiev]

I just smoked 70mg on a freebase pipe and only got a mild high. No visuals only weird thoughts and sensations.

I smoked around 200mg and got nothing so I am calling it quits for now until I get peppermint to do infused leaf dmt. I cannot get a vape although I could do a type of diy bong or pipe or something I saw the key v2 but the images are not loading for me although something like that would be perfect

 

[TransistorBass]

You should be stratospheric with that amount.

A badly weighed 5mg was enough for my first few attempts and that got to a brief introduction to an entity with a feminine feel in what I'd think of as a waiting room of fractal peace and calm.

 

[SuperMarioKiev]

You should be stratospheric with that amount.

A badly weighed 5mg was enough for my first few attempts and that got to a brief introduction to an entity with a feminine feel in what I'd think of as a waiting room of fractal peace and calm.

200mg total including the 70mg I smoked.

I am really at a loss how could my technique be so horrid that I can burn 70mg and only get a mild high? This session I was sure to hold the pipe away from the lighter. I was taking about 5-7 puffs because it would vaporize so slowly I think that might be the culprit in some capacity. Do you have any tips? Maybe not hold it as far from the lighter? I don't know how it could've burned. It was taking a ridiculous amount of time to vaporize because of how far it was. My stuff is a crumbly yellow goop.

 

[blig-blug]

Sounds like you should go with either enhanced leaf or a different method. Look up "the machine" for a device you can make yourself that's supposed to be much superior to a freebase pipe.

 

[Ra-Horakhty]

Do you roll the pipe from left to right while holding the lighter?

 

[TransistorBass]

200mg total including the 70mg I smoked.

I am really at a loss how could my technique be so horrid that I can burn 70mg and only get a mild high? This session I was sure to hold the pipe away from the lighter. I was taking about 5-7 puffs because it would vaporize so slowly I think that might be the culprit in some capacity. Do you have any tips? Maybe not hold it as far from the lighter? I don't know how it could've burned. It was taking a ridiculous amount of time to vaporize because of how far it was. My stuff is a crumbly yellow goop.

Are you doing long breaths in straight to Lungs or sucking into the mouth first before inhaling?
Mouth to Lung won’t work that well so ensure you do a long slow breath straight to lung.

 

[SuperMarioKiev]

Are you doing long breaths in straight to Lungs or sucking into the mouth first before inhaling?
Mouth to Lung won’t work that well so ensure you do a long slow breath straight to lung.

Really? I inhale straight to lung and hold for 10 seconds.

I vaporize until it’s a thick condensed smog and just suck directly into the lungs from the pipe.

I try to do a sharp quick inhale but I’ll try again today.

 

[SuperMarioKiev]

Do you roll the pipe from left to right while holding the lighter?

I don’t. I melt it all and pool it into a corner to try and vaporize it all at once.

Should I try?

 

[SuperMarioKiev]

Sounds like you should go with either enhanced leaf or a different method. Look up "the machine" for a device you can make yourself that's supposed to be much superior to a freebase pipe.

I will try both. Do you reckon I could rip open a tea bag and enhance it with dmt? Or would I just need to buy the leafs and process them myself?

Also when you say enhanced you mean sprinkled in or dissolved in vodka or similar food grade alcohol and left out to dry?

I will try the machine too I am looking for any option as I have kinda flunked horribly with a pipe.

I looked into making a vape but I cannot due to the strict regulations mainly being the fact that I need to sign for the package at the door and I am not normally home at the times that the postal service passes by.

 

[blig-blug]

I will try both. Do you reckon I could rip open a tea bag and enhance it with dmt? Or would I just need to buy the leafs and process them myself?

It's OK, yes. There are nicer plants than tea to smoke, I think tea is harsh (I haven't tried it). Mullein is a very common option as the smoke is less harsh than many other options. But I'm not an expert in this, I don't smoke. I have tried only mullein and mint, mullein was better. Anyways, you can get the leaves already dry and crushed if you want to, it shouldn't be a problem.

Also when you say enhanced you mean sprinkled in or dissolved in vodka or similar food grade alcohol and left out to dry?

That's how people usually do it, yes. If you add harmalas to the mix, then it's changa. It's easier if you use a pure alcohol, like 98% ethanol if you have access to it, or 99% IPA. IPA is not food safe but evaporates well. Vodka has a lot of water and will take longer to dry.

There's also the "sandwich method", I'm not sure how effective that is. And, if you smoke, @new_science makes some DMT cigarettes. It's possible you can make them without tobacco too, I'll let him explain it.

I looked into making a vape but I cannot due to the strict regulations mainly being the fact that I need to sign for the package at the door and I am not normally home at the times that the postal service passes by.

A vape shouldn't be necessary, people have been smoking DMT long before vapes even existed. I'm sure you'll find a way that works for you

 

[new_science]

For my cigarettes I use enhanced leaf or changa based on how long I want the trip to last and whether I'm in the mood for the harmalas. The key is to make it weak; 1:1 is way too strong. Even a very small roll with 1/8th DMT by weight is plenty. That would be about 12mg in a tiny 100mg filled paper, but you can use whatever amount you want. Adding plain herbs to bolster the size for easier rolling is an option. The more herb, the easier it will be to handle, yet also keep in mind that you likely won't be finishing it. I generally take whatever size toke it takes to get it started, and then a couple more. Sorry to be vague, however it really all depends on your strength of blend and how deep you want to go (duh). For the herbal adjunct, I like mullein, which is a very popular smoking herb for its lack of harshness and willingness to stay lit.

AFAIK this is a very uncommon way of smoking DMT or changa. I don't have any glassware right now so it's been a matter of smoking the way I'm able to, simply enough. For about 10 of my 15 years smoking weed I only smoked spliffs so I'm skilled at rolling and appreciate the ritual--that's probably a lot of it.

Pros to rolling your DMT: no fussing with a lighter or buttons after the initial flare, stealth, easy to share

Cons: Lack of control over total dosage (the ember's heat will vaporize some quantity of the DMT behind it), wasting of DMT due to minor excessive heat when lighting the roll (this can be mitigated by using inert herb at the tip), dealing with a fire hazard when you've decided you've had enough

I wouldn't recommend it as a first option. That said, it works for me very well, even if it was only ever a stopgap while I don't have a pipe or bong. There are right ways and wrong ways to do DMT, yet IMO one's method of vaporization doesn't play into that debate. If a method works for you, don't let other people tell you that you need to fix what you're doing. Wasting a little bit of spice is not a big deal if you are treating your journeys with respect--it's a renewable resource, after all. Unless you're vaping 500mg at once. In that case you are doing something wrong...

 

[SuperMarioKiev]

It's OK, yes. There are nicer plants than tea to smoke, I think tea is harsh (I haven't tried it). Mullein is a very common option as the smoke is less harsh than many other options. But I'm not an expert in this, I don't smoke. I have tried only mullein and mint, mullein was better. Anyways, you can get the leaves already dry and crushed if you want to, it shouldn't be a problem.


That's how people usually do it, yes. If you add harmalas to the mix, then it's changa. It's easier if you use a pure alcohol, like 98% ethanol if you have access to it, or 99% IPA. IPA is not food safe but evaporates well. Vodka has a lot of water and will take longer to dry.

There's also the "sandwich method", I'm not sure how effective that is. And, if you smoke, @new_science makes some DMT cigarettes. It's possible you can make them without tobacco too, I'll let him explain it.


A vape shouldn't be necessary, people have been smoking DMT long before vapes even existed. I'm sure you'll find a way that works for you

Do you think I could use naptha for my leaf enhancing? It is not food safe but evaporates well and leaves no residue. Or would it damage the leaf?

I tried to search online but I am getting mixed results. Some say it does and some say it leaves behind an oily waxy substance. I have done an evap test on mine and it didn’t leave anything although I am still hesitant but if I used it for my dmt and it didn’t leave anything it should be fine right? I use kleen n strip vm&p naptha


Yeah I will try the machine today. Also for the machine.

You hit the neck of the bottle with a lighter until the dmt placed upon the steel wool melts? After this my question is, does the dmt not burn when you hit it with the lighter? Also does the dmt not leak since the hotter it gets the more waterlike consistency it transforms into

 

[new_science]

Brother, use your edit button.

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

I made something similar to a machine when I first did DMT after burning it too much in a glass bong. Talking 12 years ago now lol.
I cut the bottom off a 2l bottle, then taped foil with dmt on it around the bottom of it. Before taping the foil to the bottle, I pushed some of the foil (the center) in to the bottle top to create like a dip for the dmt to go in.

I burnt under the foil where the DMT was, and let the bottle build up with smoke and inhaled in one go. It worked really well lol.

 

[bezevo]

did you mean ...burned ? because you should never burn ... never any flame touching pipe or ? just draw the heat towards the pipe or changa or free base .

 

[SuperMarioKiev]

did you mean ...burned ? because you should never burn ... never any flame touching pipe or ? just draw the heat towards the pipe or changa or free base .

Yes burned and no the flame was not touching the pipe.

 

[bezevo]

must be a language thing , ...

burning just destroys/wastes the nnDMT . so by saing BURN do you actually mean heat it with indirect heat tell it turns to vapor or actually burn it up ?

you can burn a material llike mint or mullen neer the DMT to vaporize the dmt but you want the vapor from the dmt before IT Burns . thats the difrence between those that can get a breakthrew with 15mg and those that burnup/waist 70mg to get a break threw .

ok just trying to understand and possably be helpful .

 

[SuperMarioKiev]

I made something similar to a machine when I first did DMT after burning it too much in a glass bong. Talking 12 years ago now lol.
I cut the bottom off a 2l bottle, then taped foil with dmt on it around the bottom of it. Before taping the foil to the bottle, I pushed some of the foil (the center) in to the bottle top to create like a dip for the dmt to go in.

I burnt under the foil where the DMT was, and let the bottle build up with smoke and inhaled in one go. It worked really well lol.

A 2 liter plastic bottle? Like the standard 2L coke bottles?

I am kinda confused on what this contraption would look like.

must be a language thing , ...

burning just destroys/wastes the nnDMT . so by saing BURN do you actually mean heat it with indirect heat tell it turns to vapor or actually burn it up ?

you can burn a material llike mint or mullen neer the DMT to vaporize the dmt but you want the vapor from the dmt before IT Burns . thats the difrence between those that can get a breakthrew with 15mg and those that burnup/waist 70mg to get a break threw .

ok just trying to understand and possably be helpful .

When I say burn I mean heating to point of destruction. Thats why I can’t breakthrough because I am destroying the dmt on accident.

 

[bezevo]

look into the sandwich method ...perhaps

 

[GnomesAndElvesInHarmony]

A 2 liter plastic bottle? Like the standard 2L coke bottles?

I am kinda confused on what this contraption would look like.

Yep, it's not a good way to do it though, I'd rather use a glass pipe instead still. Burning foil and plastic is no good. I found it easy to get where I wanted that way early on, but improved on other ways like a oil burner with the bubble at the end.