TEK "TnT tek" - Vodka DMT extraction for oral use TEK (super easy!)

[blig-blug]

100g for this TEK and fully evaporate it so I can compare the amounts extracted to a 100g STB.

It's not a one to one comparison. This tek is full spectrum and extracts a good amount of flavonoids, other alkaloids, and other plant matter, as confirmed by analysis. Only part of it will be DMT. However, the result seems stronger than the DMT it contains, likely due to the action of some of the other stuff, so if you want to compare by subjective effects, it's possible (even if subjective).

I'm guessing the resultant dry bit can't be Freebase from the Vodka TEK, could this be mixed into usable Vape Juice with some citric acid to make DMT Citrate juice?

It could be that the extract is already soluble in PG without any citric acid, as pure DMT freebase is (although I prefer citrate). I would try first dissolving it without any citric acid, as you can always add it later.

 

[Transform]

I've got a couple more wetted-cooked-frozen-thawed extractions waiting for me in the Freezer.

If that's just damp bark you can add higher proof alcohol to take into account the amount of water already added to the bark. The rangeof 37 - 40 % ABV does seem to be close to optimal for the tannin removal step, although there may be some room for precision refinement with respect to minimising non-tryptamine components in the pulls.

I'm guessing the resultant dry bit can't be Freebase from the Vodka TEK, could this be mixed into usable Vape Juice with some citric acid to make DMT Citrate juice?

There's a sample earmarked for this kind of attempt languishing in one of my freezers. Let's see who gets there first

 

[TransistorBass]

To be honest @blig-blug that sounds even more interesting, and avoids me trying to do a pointless comparison.

And @Transform sadly its acid-wetted batches that I have frozen and we've already had the discussion about 'Fire Gel' so no acid near the Calcium Hydroxide, shooting flames after boofing the poop-shooter isn't my thing haha

Thanks guys.

 

[TransistorBass]

Got the Calcium Hydroxide, got the Vodka, got the Root bark. Hopefully get to this experiment in the next week or two.

Not planning a Freeze-Thaw cycle (Though I've been looking at Grain Alcohol rather than Vodka if I was to do this so I could water wet the MHRB for the Freeze, as the 95-95% stuff probably works out cheaper than buying cheap Vodka)

I'm thinking a week long soak of MHRB in Vodka first, then do 1 or 2 rinses of the sludge, assuming I can manage to strain it well enough, I'll probably put this on my little stir plate occasionally over the course the week.

 

[Transform]

Got the Calcium Hydroxide, got the Vodka, got the Root bark. Hopefully get to this experiment in the next week or two.

Not planning a Freeze-Thaw cycle (Though I've been looking at Grain Alcohol rather than Vodka if I was to do this so I could water wet the MHRB for the Freeze, as the 95-95% stuff probably works out cheaper than buying cheap Vodka)

I'm thinking a week long soak of MHRB in Vodka first, then do 1 or 2 rinses of the sludge, assuming I can manage to strain it well enough, I'll probably put this on my little stir plate occasionally over the course the week.

High proof alcohol holds onto coloured matter after the lime treatment. 37 - 40 % abv really is optimal. You can take the freeze-thaw water into account in terms of dilution, but you'll very likely need to add a further proportion of (distilled) water to bring the mixture into range for optimal tannin removal.

 

[TransistorBass]

High proof alcohol holds onto coloured matter after the lime treatment. 37 - 40 % abv really is optimal. You can take the freeze-thaw water into account in terms of dilution, but you'll very likely need to add a further proportion of (distilled) water to bring the mixture into range for optimal tannin removal.

I should have said, I was looking at grain alcohol rather than paying for the water, packaging, marketing etc etc in Vodka with the plan to dilute myself.
I’ve got Vodka for this experiment but can skim a bit of cost off if I get 96% extraction alcohol next time

 

[TransistorBass]

Decided I’d go for 50g MHRB and 500ml Vodka on the stir plate, time undecided, I’m half tempted to give it a stir occasionally for a week. Either that or I’ll do something with it tomorrow or the day after. My thinking was to give the MHRB a couple of washes after the initial settle and filter which if I do 250ml each wash I’ll end up with approx 1000ml before I start adding the Calcium Hydroxide. This means it will be slightly more dilute than this TEK but as I plan to fully evaporate it just means more to evap. I could wash through the settled Calcium Hydroxide too, no point wasting any good stuff!


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[Transform]

Decided I’d go for 50g MHRB and 500ml Vodka on the stir plate, time undecided, I’m half tempted to give it a stir occasionally for a week. Either that or I’ll do something with it tomorrow or the day after. My thinking was to give the MHRB a couple of washes after the initial settle and filter which if I do 250ml each wash I’ll end up with approx 1000ml before I start adding the Calcium Hydroxide. This means it will be slightly more dilute than this TEK but as I plan to fully evaporate it just means more to evap. I could wash through the settled Calcium Hydroxide too, no point wasting any good stuff!
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A week won't hurt, but it's essentially overkill. Zapping in the microwave seemed to get things done in about half an hour, but that requires some level of caution or maybe luck not to blow the thing up. Since you appear to be doing a room temperature extraction, it would be interesting to know whether there's any difference to be seen between a day-long soak and a week.

When the time comes, go easy on the lime addition - there's no point in adding too much, nor too quickly. It needs a bit of time to react on account of its rather poor solubility. That's the first part where exercising a bit of patience would be desirable...

Evaporating vodka will mean you'll have a load of water to get rid of, which could be annoying. The water will freeze out as ice crystals to a surprisingly large extent, partly because the reaction between calcium hydroxide and tannins also produces water. Then again, separating the concentrated solution from the ice crystals can be a bit of a pain as well. I'm sure there's scope for applying a bit of ingenuity to the issue, the main trouble being it's best to keep everything as cold as possible (-18 to -24 °C) in order to minimise melting of the ice. The best way to achieve that outside of working in arctic conditions would be to use a freezing mixture, crushed ice and table salt (NaCl) being the simplest and calcium chloride hexahydrate plus finely crushed ice being the most accessible way of getting rather colder temperatures (as low as -55 °C when done spot-on).

Well, all that ramble does seem to make evaporation look more appealing, but whatever you choose I hope it turns out successfully without any hiccups.