Ufo Aliens and dmt connection.....

[Hendrix87]

I've seen many people describe meeting grey aliens in the dmt realm and I'm curious as to what your guys thoughts are about these grey aliens.


With alien abductions in real life, Most if not all may perhaps just be fake.


But let's just say that 0.0001% of alien abduction stories are true, Then what exactly is going on ??


A semi famous comic book author called grant morrison had an experience where he claimed that alien entities seemed to melt off of his walls and appeared as silver floating sentient orbs in his room, They telepathicilly asked him what he wanted to see. He replied " everything " , They then dragged him into the dmt realm ( without him taking dmt ) While their they told him the purpose of life on earth. In the dmt realm time doesn't exist, And without time entities can't grow, So they send us here to this reality so we can grow and eventually become dmt entities of our own once we are fully grown.


Of course this is just one anecdotal story, But I'm curious about your guys thoughts on grey alien sightings and reports here in this reality and the grey alien type entities in the dmt realm. Are they connected ?? Does our subconscious just create grey alien looking hallucinations in the dmt realm ?? What the hell happened at rosewell new mexico ?? and are the glowing orbs of light that have been witnessed in our reality as UFOs connected to the dmt realm ?? Was it really grey aliens that first taught man which specific plants to mix to create ayawaska like some ancient tribes and clans claim ??


There are no right or wrong answers here, It's all just speculation and subjective and food for thought. Soplease share your thoughts if you feel like you have anything to add to this topic, Share your opinion and perhaps your own personal thoughts and theories. :want:

 

[null24]

...What the hell happened?...

These questions get a lot of chuckles but i feel that the UFO/ET discussion is, very much like that of the psychedelic, a doorway into every conceivable "big" existential and metaphysical concept. Consciousness, God and astrophysics, oh my!

I've always held a fascination for the irrational, the paranormal, and in my life have had encounters with psi phenomenon particularly telekinesis, out-of-body travel, spirit entity visions all before ingesting any drug or while sober.

I consider myself healthily skeptical and not a faithful believer in anything but experience is experience. My sig speaks to a personal philosophy of experiential knowing being the most viable and true route to knowing and this is a worldview. I have had a life transforming encounter with the divine which could never be "proven" in any material empirical sense but is the most real experience i ever had. Enough to have completely changed my life over a course of a half decade now. A false impression or memory wouldn't be that impactful i don't think and there is as much conviction in its veracity as any other
"real life" experience.

I just wanted to introduce a general opinion on paranormality. I'm all for it! If there is such a thing as a non material empirical skeptic i may be one. I fact i do believe that is what a Fortean is, and I'll appreciate that appellation.

So what did happen in Roswell? Are aliens flying ari around in nuts and bolts craft? Were they attracted to our nascent nuclear program for whatever reason during the 40s and 50s? Are they abducting people, engaging in genetic/breeding programs with humans, mutilating cows etc?
**OR**
Are they psychicentities inhabiting a alter dimensional reality and interact with us through the intersection of realities, and have been a part of the human story since the development of higher reasoning bilobal consciousness? Are they the fae, djinn and now ET?
**OR???**

In drugged states i haven't really done any focused intentional experimentation to contact am extraterrestrial intelligence but i have felt a connection with some "Other" completely alien to me. One of the tests of whether something is external or not is whether one is imparted with novel information or not as a result of an interaction with a supposed entity but I'm not entirely sure it would be possible and although i have felt 'downloaded' with practical information, it was more instructional, imparting information on how to use a technology namely breath techniques to achieve high states of consciousness. I was aware of what pranayama is but did not have the working knowledge of it prior that i had after a powerful trip. Is that proof of ultra dimensional entity or external intelligence contact? IDK

There is much to unwrap here if we truly want to. I'm not sure if a discussion on this subject can stayon point within the guidelines and focus of this forum. Keeping the talk on the rails withoutgoing into political conspiracy or devolving into name calling may not be possible. If we want to talk about the intersecting realms psychedelic aliens then im all for it.

 

[DmnStr8]

Don't get me started on aliens! lol

I have a lot to say on this topic for sure. Alien conspiracy theories, crop circles and the like have fascinated me since I was a child. I don't think we are alone in this universe. I will leave it at that. Check out my alien thread. ->Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

:shock: ALIENS!!!!:shock:

 

[Northerner]

I've heard the term "alien homing beacons" used for mushrooms more than once.

On a more serious note. It is obvious to anyone who understands the maths that life exists in great swathes across the universe. BUT, due to the size of the whole infinite structure and the technological hurdles to be overcome to actually reach another life supporting system I find the probability of extra-terrestrials showing up suddenly in this tiny slice of time in this galaxy, in this solar system, on this planet, and observable to us, incredibly tiny. Like guessing the right grain of sand from every beach in the whole world.

Unless of course they spotted the planet a very long time ago and then set out to check out what's going on here just based on our atmospheric and surface condition signatures, like how we are rating other planets now. That's such a massive maybe. But I'm looking for a way for it to be possible. Or of course their tech is so advanced that for us it would be indistinguishable from magic.

Even then, considering these species have magic tech, it seems highly improbable to travel across systems and possibly even galaxies for many light years... then crash in New Mexico. (darnit Bob, I told you to check the oil before we left!) :lol:

And why doesn't someone, just for once, take a decent picture? Geez. They're always backlit, blurry, a million miles away, clearly false or just glowing orbs. Gosh darn it, I want a picture!

And where's our anti gravity 0-1000mph in 1 second flying discs now we are mass killing people for oil and democracy? Seems like it'd be a good time to use some of this tech we recovered 70 years ago. If ever there was a time it seems like a good idea now. Unless the whole objective of these wars is to burn money and keep people in fear, rather than win wars... but that's a rather cynical thought. It'd certainly make any nation who posessed this technology dominant over the whole world military wise and the most desirable ally to have both economically and well as militarily.

 

[dragonrider]

I don't know if there realy is that much life out there. I sure hope so, but to be able to say amything about this, we would have to know the chances life has to evolve if the circumstances are right. If these chances are high, then, because of the scale of the universe.....

 

[thymamai]

...What the hell happened?...

These questions get a lot of chuckles but i feel that the UFO/ET discussion is, very much like that of the psychedelic, a doorway into every conceivable "big" existential and metaphysical concept. Consciousness, God and astrophysics, oh my!

I've always held a fascination for the irrational, the paranormal, and in my life have had encounters with psi phenomenon particularly telekinesis, out-of-body travel, spirit entity visions all before ingesting any drug or while sober.

I consider myself healthily skeptical and not a faithful believer in anything but experience is experience. My sig speaks to a personal philosophy of experiential knowing being the most viable and true route to knowing and this is a worldview. I have had a life transforming encounter with the divine which could never be "proven" in any material empirical sense but is the most real experience i ever had. Enough to have completely changed my life over a course of a half decade now. A false impression or memory wouldn't be that impactful i don't think and there is as much conviction in its veracity as any other
"real life" experience.

I just wanted to introduce a general opinion on paranormality. I'm all for it! If there is such a thing as a non material empirical skeptic i may be one. I fact i do believe that is what a Fortean is, and I'll appreciate that appellation.

So what did happen in Roswell? Are aliens flying ari around in nuts and bolts craft? Were they attracted to our nascent nuclear program for whatever reason during the 40s and 50s? Are they abducting people, engaging in genetic/breeding programs with humans, mutilating cows etc?
**OR**
Are they psychicentities inhabiting a alter dimensional reality and interact with us through the intersection of realities, and have been a part of the human story since the development of higher reasoning bilobal consciousness? Are they the fae, djinn and now ET?
**OR???**

In drugged states i haven't really done any focused intentional experimentation to contact am extraterrestrial intelligence but i have felt a connection with some "Other" completely alien to me. One of the tests of whether something is external or not is whether one is imparted with novel information or not as a result of an interaction with a supposed entity but I'm not entirely sure it would be possible and although i have felt 'downloaded' with practical information, it was more instructional, imparting information on how to use a technology namely breath techniques to achieve high states of consciousness. I was aware of what pranayama is but did not have the working knowledge of it prior that i had after a powerful trip. Is that proof of ultra dimensional entity or external intelligence contact? IDK

There is much to unwrap here if we truly want to. I'm not sure if a discussion on this subject can stayon point within the guidelines and focus of this forum. Keeping the talk on the rails withoutgoing into political conspiracy or devolving into name calling may not be possible. If we want to talk about the intersecting realms psychedelic aliens then im all for it.

Amen, brother. Well put.

This, errr, realm.. seems to be stumbling profoundly in the teamwork arena, and I think that might explain why/how we are seeing so many distortions and contradictions in it's consensus reality. People are killing themselves and eachother left and right. The species still yet may destroy itself outright.. I don't think we're ready to talk about little green men. Although I'm totally all for it too, of course.

 

[Peverly]

Anytime I see this door open, I am walking in. The door of paranormal and ET investigation and discussion.

This has little if nothing to do with DMT or Mushrooms being ET beacons, or means to bridge paranormal gaps in dimensions. That is not to say that I do not believe in these things. The one experience I had on DMT sure as heck seems ALIEN. Still feels ALIEN to think about even now and I absolutely get looked at like I am talking about aliens when I explain my dmt trip so that's definitely similar. I did have a friend who took some mushrooms once and he was convinced that typical greys were injecting thoughts into his head and extracting the immediate results telepathically. I also have a friend who ate mushrooms and thought he pooped his pants (which he absolutely did not) because his pants got wet from sitting in a puddle. There was no shaking his belief in his situation. However after said mushroom experiences, One friend would tell you afterwards that he most certainly tricked himself into thinking one way and upon waking with a clear head and rationale could realize... That did not happen, while the other friend to this day if asked, wouldn't be able to give a clear answer on what really happened in his head that night. For he still feels a sense of invasion/trauma from that experience.

Anyway shifting gear since somebody brought up Roswell.

Im going to be "that guy" and ask where Nikola Tesla fits into all this. Being that he was crafting things YET to be understood by modern men and claimed to get some of his insight from "Beings from mars" That was in the early 1880's I mean... the guy was LIGHT-YEARS beyond a concept of time. Also didn't take long for his entire story and roll in American history to be buried. Why do that? 75% of people I talk to have NO idea who he is, they just thought it was a type of "Car". I dunno. I am and have always been convinced that within that man lied some of these answers we are looking for. I feel like he just knew... knew so much. If we could figure out his true story... What was he up to in Colorado? What in the heck was going on at Wardenclyff?

I only bring him up because I think this alien stuff has been going on WAY before the 50's and 60's. (I.E The great Pyramids in Egypt) I have tried SO hard to believe what I have been told about the construction of the pyramids but all I come back with is a fat dose of NOPE. nothing about that adds up. I am of the mind that it was just in the 50's and 60's that man may have entered some sort of contract with these "Greys" Perhaps it was only in that time that we finally had something to offer. Perhaps they understood the true use of nuclear power, more so than we ever did and currently do.


I am SO down to sneak into this conversation with no real input and sneak right back out :d :d

 

[Handel]

I believe that the Greys are fourth dimensional beings (meaning, one more additional spatial dimension), and their bosses, the Praying Mantis aliens (that people see these on DMT a lot more than the Greys) are either 5th dimensional, or very advanced 4th dimensional. In fact, while they seem to break our 3D physical laws, everything they do (right angle turns, walking or flying through walls or mountains, disappearing etc) are all consistent with 4D physics as to how they would appear to a 3D brain. When they come through a wall, to our 3D brain it would look like they go through it, while in reality, they go "around it" (there's an actual 4D way to do that, there are a couple of Youtube videos explaining that too by mathematicians). In other words, they don't break any natural law. They just operate under a different one.

As for missing time, or accelerated time, that's also consistent with NASA's Alcubierre drive theory. When you're caught in the ship's spacetime distortion, all sound/noise from elsewhere ceases to exist, you get a feeling of being isolated. If you're on the front of the ship, time is accelerated, if you're on the back, time slows down. Read the reports all around, and particularly that HUGE Reddit comment storm 3 months ago, where people started reporting these things (and we're talking about materialist Redditors who reported these experiences!).

I have had a number of alien abductions happened to me (consciously I can recall two, but I know it in my gut that they have been more). At least the second one was in an altered state of consciousness, so I posit that the vast majority of these abductions happen in the 4th dimensional world (or somewhere in between, there are no hard borders), and that the physical body was not abducted, only the so-called etheric/astral one (the one you can travel via DMT). That's why there are no, neither will ever be, video evidence of an alien abduction. As for the implants, the physical body later manifests up to a degree whatever it was done to the etheric body (hence the implants that don't seem to be doing anything in particular in our 3D world apart from being annoying -- they don't need these implants to find you btw, they have telepathy. Implants are there just so they can put you into altered state of consciousness on demand, and for monitoring).

Some people see UFOs, and some people don't (even at the same event). Also, these lights the ufos and the orbs have, do not illuminate their surroundings. This tells me that these objects are projections on the 3D world, and not physically there. But people who can tune in, or are made to tune in on demand, can see them. When they want you to.

For 70 years of ufology, the nuts & bolts (extra-terrestrial) hypothesis was the prevailing one. It got us nowhere in terms of understanding the phenomenon. Only when people like Jacques Vallee and now others suggested the inter-dimensional hypothesis things started making sense (by making less sense...).

So yeah, that's my personal opinion. I used to talk to my "personal" handler Grey, who called himself Hankin, via lucid dreams. Honestly, I don't think the Greys want to do all that work they do. They rather be free from having to deal with us. But the Mantis is where your inquiry and research should redirect to. That's where all the juice is.

Particularly because the so-called "spirit guides" are supposed to have a purple aura with a medallion (as reported by people under hypnosis, I'm not talking about New Agers), and the Mantis usually wear a purple cloak with a medallion. Curious, right? Again, I highly suggest you read some Vallee, about the amount of religious manipulation these guys have been doing through the eons.