Vaping + Rue?

[SammaSam]

So... I think I've reached the point of total loss of any fear related to my DMT voyages. This is good, because I'm now giving myself permission to do some experimentation with intensity and duration. My standard "kick" is a 42-50mg dose banged over two hits. It does the trick, but I am interested in increasing the duration and depth of the ride.

Any advice on using a MAOI with vaped DMT? I have a bazillion pounds of Syrian Rue seeds that I was thinking of chewing about 30 mins before liftoff (not all the seeds, obviously, like 3 or 4). If anyone does this and has any advice on dosing with Rue I'd appreciate it. I don't get the heavy body load with Rue so I'm cool with just chewin' them up. Gracias!

 

[3rdI]

my advice is defo do it.

make a tea and drink 3 grams worth of it, or, just grind 3 grams and pop them in capsules or in juice.

go from there with regards to doseage, most seem to start at 3g but some go higher and some lower.

 

[flickedbic]

Yea my dog would chew/sublingual rue seeds straight before vaping Bufotenine to extend and intensify. The natives chewed Caapi. I hear MAOI is VERY much effective thru this route (except for oral activation).

My dog used around 10-30 seeds (two times sublingual w/ 15 each time) ; chewed and then held under the tongue for 10-15 minutes before spitting; redosing MAOI sublingually; or blastoff.

Awesome.

These should probably be spit out/swallowed instead of carried sublingually thru the experience.

Blessings.

PS: Some might say to combo freebase harmalas w/ spice for changa vaping goodness in addition to sublingual and/or tea as mentioned in the prior post

 

[SammaSam]

Thanks folks... Makes me feel better about doing it. Let's add to the mix that I'm lazy and I'm probably not going to want to sit there with 15-30 chewed up seeds under my tongue for a half an hour, so I'll probably just do the tea.

make a tea and drink 3 grams worth of it

Let's say I was going to make this tea, how long should I brew it? I've seen differing reports and, being lazy, I'm looking for the shortest distance between here and ultramegahyperspace. :shock:

 

[Global]

A lot of my deepest experiences have come from vaping on rue. What I like to do is put 3-4g crushed up seeds (I use a spice mill to crush em up to a powder) and put them in gel caps, and poke holes in the gel caps, swallow them, wait 30 and then blast off. I couldn't recommend it more, especially if you don't have to contend with the negative body load from rue.

 

[misterfractal55834]

Man don't do that check it out SWIM knows a place where you can get the extracted harmala alks from the rue. Message me for the site (I don't know if I can post it if I can let me know) Chewing or eating the seeds can make you VERY SICK. If you just smoke the harmala alks or take a small amount sublingually or even orally it will do the trick. I forgot the names of the poisons in rue but you don't want to have projectile vomiting in hyperspace. You can also control your doses a lot more and know exactly what you're consuming. SYRIAN RUE TEAS CAN MAKE YOU EXTREMELY SICK TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK!!

 

[Mister_Niles]

My standard "kick" is a 42-50mg dose banged over two hits. It does the trick, but I am interested in increasing the duration and depth of the ride.!

I'm not sure I understand what you are doing. What is a standard "kick"? Are you using dmt to quit heroin? To "kick" usually means to quit a drug. And are you injecting dmt? "Banging" has always been slang for injecting a drug.
I just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. If you are injecting dmt, I hope you have really pure dmt and someone to help you, who knows what they are doing. You also need to research the effects and duration of using an maoi with i.v dmt. I hope you aren't injecting and are using slang improperly (or maybe it's a regional slang).
Let us know.

 

[misterfractal55834]

My standard "kick" is a 42-50mg dose banged over two hits. It does the trick, but I am interested in increasing the duration and depth of the ride.!

I'm not sure I understand what you are doing. What is a standard "kick"? Are you using dmt to quit heroin? To "kick" usually means to quit a drug. And are you injecting dmt? "Banging" has always been slang for injecting a drug.
I just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. If you are injecting dmt, I hope you have really pure dmt and someone to help you, who knows what they are doing. You also need to research the effects and duration of using an maoi with i.v dmt. I hope you aren't injecting and are using slang improperly (or maybe it's a regional slang).
Let us know.

The topic says Vaping DMT and rue so from the topic name I'm assuming he's vaping it. "Kick" can be slang for anything.

 

[Mister_Niles]

My standard "kick" is a 42-50mg dose banged over two hits. It does the trick, but I am interested in increasing the duration and depth of the ride.!

I'm not sure I understand what you are doing. What is a standard "kick"? Are you using dmt to quit heroin? To "kick" usually means to quit a drug. And are you injecting dmt? "Banging" has always been slang for injecting a drug.
I just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. If you are injecting dmt, I hope you have really pure dmt and someone to help you, who knows what they are doing. You also need to research the effects and duration of using an maoi with i.v dmt. I hope you aren't injecting and are using slang improperly (or maybe it's a regional slang).
Let us know.

The topic says Vaping DMT and rue so from the topic name I'm assuming he's vaping it. "Kick" can be slang for anything.

Okay, I kick what you are Kicking misterkick. Excuse my kick, I was merely kicking to kick the kick of the message. I really want to kick sure that the safety of our kickers is kicked.
I don't think that kick is a ubiquitous slang word.

And seriously, If you've been on the Nexus for any amount of time, or any forum for that matter, you will know that the title and the body of a post are sometimes barely if at all related. If someone says they are banging something in the u.s. it means injecting a drug into a vein. I don't know if this is true in other countries.
The title of the post is "Vaping + Rue?" . That could be interpreted in many ways. I was just making sure I understood what was being said.
In the first paragraph OP speaks of "banging", which I understand to mean injecting. Then in the next paragraph he asks about vaping dmt using an MAOI. I was thinking he was asking about an alternative to injecting dmt. Which is generally frowned upon here at the nexus.

 

[SammaSam]

Yes, I am improperly using slang here... I am vaping DMT xtals and nothing more. I can't keep track of all the junkie slang out there, I could be describing my breakfast juicing routine and it would sound like I'm skateboarding upside down on my tongue while sticking bath salts in my eyes.

The "kick" is a reference to Inception, I get that falling sensation on the way out just before I energize

 

[SammaSam]

And, back to the lecture at hand...

Rue tea for MAOI:=;/~ I don't get sick from Rue, but also haven't used it for MAOI and then vaped after. 3-6g crushed and steeped in water with a metal tea infuser? Should I throw some acid in the water? NOTE NOT REAL ACID I MEAN LEMON JUICE

 

[misterfractal55834]

If you're set on making a rue tea or consuming the rue orally at all start with like 2-3 grams. You might have a much stronger stomach than I, but just be careful. You can find recipes to make a rue tea all over the net. Once again this stuff can make you really sick to your stomach so please start low. Honestly if you're really looking for a longer experience you should try oral dmt. If you feel you are brave enough you can take a high enough dose for a full on 2-3 hour breakthrough. I personally prefer oral DMT cause it picks you up lightly and not at lightspeed.

 

[SammaSam]

I would definitely be down for a 2-3 hour breakthrough but haven't tried oral... I think it's just because I keep reading so many conflicting accounts of how much to take, etc. I would certainly be up for any advice. I am definitely a hardhead when it comes to pretty much everything, it usually takes 1 1/2 to 3 times as much of any psychoactive substance to get me off.

misterfractal55834 For oral DMT, I'm listening... how much are we talking about and what method of ingestion? Assume I have a practically unlimited quantity of white fluffy xtals at my disposal.

 

[SammaSam]

I personally prefer oral

that's interesting.

Couldn't resist.

 

[misterfractal55834]

Oral DMT doses range heavily from person to person. You can check out dosages in the FAQ. It says never go above 50 mg for your first try. SWIM also is very hard headed. SWIM started with around 75 mg and had the most transcendental experience of my life without all the super crazy vibrations from smoked spice onset. I'm still new to all of this as well. Honestly, start low and that way you can begin to gauge your doses better. Make sure you have a trip sitter just in case things don't go your way. Oral DMT is tricky but when done correctly, is a godsend.