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Lurker emerging from the shadows. I've been very interested in trying this ROA as the machine has not been cuttin' it for me. Can't wait to hear them results anrchy when you get the time
 
stevehen said:
Lurker emerging from the shadows. I've been very interested in trying this ROA as the machine has not been cuttin' it for me. Can't wait to hear them results anrchy when you get the time
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Stevehen,

There hasn't been a lot going on with this thread lately. It was active back in the day and then had a bump a few months ago, but here's the basics:
-Most people aren't using this ROA.
-*Some* people are getting good results with this ROA, *most* are getting mixed results.
-The rebuildable ecig systems seem to hold the most promise right now (see Anrchy above), but I cannot attest to them personally.
-The standard attys tend to clog or burn out very quickly and need to be replaced--this causes a lot of difficulty.
-The concensus is probably that the GVG is a better bet, but if you wanna try it, then feel free.

I was really excited about this ROA as well--it's really what pushed me over the edge to make my own extraction in the first place. That said, the results have been kind of frustrating and exhausting. I've been using the GVG exclusively over the last month, and I cannot really see myself going back to the ecig system unless something completely new comes along to increase its efficiency.
 
ScientificMethod,

Yeah after exhaustively researching the forums regarding this ecig method, it seems to be a bit dicey as a ROA. As I'm ooking a method which can easily provide breakthrough level experiences, the ease of just hitting a button sounds so appealing.

Have you personally had experience with the machine? It seems for me I can never get large enough hits to get an adequate dose in the short time frame needed to truly breakthrough. I have several breakthrough experiences in my history, they are just relatively rare.

The thing holding me back from the GVG is the price and I don't want to purchase it to find similar results from that of the machine. Maybe someone could provide the experience if they have used both, though this is likely not the right thread for that:p
 
There are plenty of threads on the machine. The gvg surpasses the machine and IMO is worth the money. There are also cheaper gvg alternatives that others claim work as well.

I wanted to add here that i have the nautilus atlantis and have been using it for a little over 2 weeks now. I think out of all the tanks this one would be the only one that i feel "might" work a little. Def better than all the other tanks, this thing blows huge clouds. Still an rda is a better choice in my opinion because there will be much less waste. The atlantis requires a mod that operates in the 20-40 watt range and up.
 
Thinking of getting a vaporshark DNA 40 soon as I just quit smoking and took up e cigs. I'm currently using a mvp 2 with a nautilus aspire tank. I'm assuming it won't work for dmt so won't bother trying. But was wondering if you think 40 watts from the DNA would work with the mutant x Atty?

Probably won't have the money for this for a few weeks but I will report back as I plan on us I h the shark as my main piece for eliquid anyways and I figure if it works it prevents me having g yo buy a gvg.
 
I should add the new VaporShark rDNA 40 Watt has a temperature control feature on it if you elect to build your coils with a certain type of metal, drawing a blank right now. In a review video a guy made his coils and set the wattage to around 22 I believe and the temperature went up to over 400 degrees and the wattage was reduced automatically in order to prevent it from hesting up over the limit he had set

Not sure how well this feature will work in regards to DMT but I'm assuming since it was only set at half the total available watts and it achieve temps of over 400 degrees I'm assuming this will provide enough power to vaporize DMT properly.
 
Al-Wasi said:
I should add the new VaporShark rDNA 40 Watt has a temperature control feature on it if you elect to build your coils with a certain type of metal, drawing a blank right now. In a review video a guy made his coils and set the wattage to around 22 I believe and the temperature went up to over 400 degrees and the wattage was reduced automatically in order to prevent it from hesting up over the limit he had set

Not sure how well this feature will work in regards to DMT but I'm assuming since it was only set at half the total available watts and it achieve temps of over 400 degrees I'm assuming this will provide enough power to vaporize DMT properly.
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yesssssss. My friend and I actually had a conversation about that very mod. I think it will be great for DMT (possibly amazing) and the mutant X is an awesome rda. Perfect setup.

So basically this is how it will work. You wrap a coil for the desired ohms, set it to a certain temp, and it will automatically adjust the wattage to achieve that temp. This will then cause you to want to wrap a coil based on its ability to heat up and cool down fast. So I think a micro coil will be best (possibly around 1.5ohms). Use kanthal and cotton wick. Probably 30g with 10 wraps (i am completely guessing as I dont have enough experience with wrapping my own coils yet). For DMT you will want to use a very short wick so that you dont have to saturate it with a ton of dmt to use it, you dont want a dry wick.

I think this would be a great mod because you will know what temp works best after some trials. A single coil build with 30-32 gauge wire is most likely what you are going to want to use.
 
Hi All- long time no see to my old friends.
For anyone skeptical of "getting enough vapor" with an RDA (rebuildable drip atomizer) I highly recommend watching this 55 second vid.


Anarchy is TOTALLY on the right track with the dual coil RDA and the DNA40. The DNA40 is a circuit board built into the "mod" (battery box/controls/digital display). Mods built with this board allow you to:
1: adjust and maintain wattage (by varying voltage) when using standard kanthal wire.
OR
2: (and this is BIG) adjust and MAINTAIN coil temp by varying wattage when using pure NICKEL wire.

It even has a "pre-heat" feature that gives the coil a jump start to get it to temp in a fraction of a second. The mod can be used with RDA's or tank style attys like the Aspire Atlantis. But for our purposes, a dual nickel coil RDA would kick ass.

My prediction is the above mod/RDA's will revolutionize vaping methods once bugs are worked out. I have a gvg....and love it......but still feel like a crack user when I pull it out LOL.

Namaste and Good Work Guys!

-Boypony
 
That's impressive. I think that it's the same one my tattoo artist uses. I was talking to him about it last week--he isn't much for doi-it-yourself projects, but he said that it's pretty easy to build and work with. He wasn't blowing them that big, but I think that would have been a bit excessive in the confines of a tattoo studio.
 
So after more research I know this. In order to get temperature control on a DNA 40 device nickel wore MUST be used. NOT KANTHAL.

Base on previous research can anyone suggest at what resistance to build a coil for DMT purposes? Also what wattage should be used?

Seeing as we now have temperature control can anyone tell me at what point DMT vaporizes?

Pretty sure the DNA 40 can be set at a range between 400-600 degrees Fahrenheit. Though it may be 300 I forget. Would love to know more info as I'm getting a DNA device soon.
 
@anrchy

You said you used 4 drops of liquid. When u had good results. How was the DMT eliquid prepared? Was it pure VG ,Pg , or a combo of both and how much DMT and liquid did you use to make the liquid?
 
Al-Wasi said:
@anrchy

You said you used 4 drops of liquid. When u had good results. How was the DMT eliquid prepared? Was it pure VG ,Pg , or a combo of both and how much DMT and liquid did you use to make the liquid?
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I basically took a gram of dmt and added it to a milliliter of pure pg. I did this bits at a time so without adding heat it takes a long time to fully dissolve.

If you did a hot water bath that would speed up the process much quicker. Just make sure whatever amount of dmt you use you make it 1:1. So 500mg/0.5ml or 250mg/0.25ml ect.
 
Another interested soul passing by. I've been looking into this ROA a lot and have seen others mention dissolving the DMT into ethanol, and what I had seen was promising. Is this still an "endorsed" idea or are there reasons I shouldn't dissolve my DMT into ethanol to vape?

Edit: Other than the obvious idea that heat + high proof alcohol = bad idea
 
I can't say much for use with ethanol, but if you have a large quantity, you might try some PG or VG mixes. This is what first brought me to the Nexus. I was working on this project for a couple months, but I have abandoned the idea. I believe that current consensus is that it's a possible ROA and there are better or worse ways to go about it (standard atty vs rebuildable--see conversation above). But for the most part, I haven't found it to be as efficant as I'd hoped and I've all but stopped trying this method altogether.

Like I said though, if you have "extra" spice, give it a shot. It's not too expensive an endeveour.
 
Just got my mutation x rda. The vaporshark rDNA 40 has a team business day processing time before shipping right now. It should ship and be at my house later this week.

As soon as it touches down I'll begin testing what temperature to vape at. I'm assuming setting it at its lowest temp will work best.

Will report back soon. I'm optimistic that this set up will make breakthroughs easy as pie and taking a whoke dose easily in one hit simple.
 
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