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Has anyone given any thought to mechanical mods? I suppose a regulated device might be more effective once you get the wattage dialed in but then again if one were to use a tool such as Steam Engine to find out the adecuate resistance coil for optimal vaporizing temperature of enhanced e-juice there should be no appreciable difference between a VV/VW device and a mech mod with a fully charged battery. Given that a mech mod is a cheaper and arguably more durable device maybe it could be interesting to give it a try.
 
As stated in my previous post I was wondering whether or not a mechanical mod would be a suitable device for vaping enhanced e-juice.

I had mixed pure PG with some fluffy white spice and deep red full spectrum goo in a vial in a rough 1:1 proportion (my scale is not very accurate) and had placed it on top of my wireless router to apply mild heat to speed up the dissolving of the spice. When the spice seemed to have dissolved completely I built a 6 wrap dual coil setup with 0.40mm kanthal in my RDA and mounted it on my copper mechanical mod with a freshly charged battery.

The next step was to get comfortable, turn down the lights and try out this new method. I took one deep lung hit from the e-cig (which was surprisingly smooth by the way) and waited for the effects. Almost immediately my ears started to hum in a familiar way and the wall in front of me started to form complex geometrical patterns. All I could think is "hold it in" as I laid down ready to enjoy the show.

Long story short: the e-cig method got me as deep as I ever had been with enhanced leaf from a bong. It definetly works and I'm proud to show all of y'all my new spiceship.

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Oh what adventures we're going to have together.
 
That's awesome, seems like the perfect way to vape spice. Thanks for sharing! I wonder if you would be able to add pure haramalas.
What RDA are you using? Although I suppose it doesn't matter?
 
As soon as I get my hands on a source of harmala alkaloids I'll prepare a new batch of juice to try to make e-changa.

The RDA I'm using is a Stillare clone. I chose to use it as it's designed for dual coil setups and the "cyclops" style airholes allow an unrestricted airflow that keeps the coils cooler. I'd imagine taking a huge lungful of burned spice would be an unpleasant experience to say the least so the cooler vape seems like the safe choice.
 
Jarppi said:
As stated in my previous post I was wondering whether or not a mechanical mod would be a suitable device for vaping enhanced e-juice.

I had mixed pure PG with some fluffy white spice and deep red full spectrum goo in a vial in a rough 1:1 proportion (my scale is not very accurate) and had placed it on top of my wireless router to apply mild heat to speed up the dissolving of the spice. When the spice seemed to have dissolved completely I built a 6 wrap dual coil setup with 0.40mm kanthal in my RDA and mounted it on my copper mechanical mod with a freshly charged battery.

The next step was to get comfortable, turn down the lights and try out this new method. I took one deep lung hit from the e-cig (which was surprisingly smooth by the way) and waited for the effects. Almost immediately my ears started to hum in a familiar way and the wall in front of me started to form complex geometrical patterns. All I could think is "hold it in" as I laid down ready to enjoy the show.

Long story short: the e-cig method got me as deep as I ever had been with enhanced leaf from a bong. It definetly works and I'm proud to show all of y'all my new spiceship.

I5qm2Wx.jpg


Oh what adventures we're going to have together.
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Can you elaborate a little on this.

Like how much PG/Spice did you use?

Did you use one drop from an average dropper on your RDA to get the desired effect?

Do you have an estimate of mg per drop?

What kind of wick are you using?

How confident are you that you are vaping all the spice out of the wick/coil in one or two pulls?


Very interested in this, as I have been an avid vaper for 4 years now, would be nice to have a "special" vape as well.
 
furhenden said:
Can you elaborate a little on this.

Like how much PG/Spice did you use?

Did you use one drop from an average dropper on your RDA to get the desired effect?

Do you have an estimate of mg per drop?

What kind of wick are you using?

How confident are you that you are vaping all the spice out of the wick/coil in one or two pulls?


Very interested in this, as I have been an avid vaper for 4 years now, would be nice to have a "special" vape as well.
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PG/Spice ratio is roughly 1:1, as I stated in my previous post the scale I have right now is not very precise.

I wicked the coils with cotton which was cut as close to the coil as possible, in order to prevent burning I saturated with maybe 2-3 drops.

It's doubtful that one would be able to vaporize all of the spice in one hit. Maybe in two you could leave the wicks dry but I'd rather not try it given that when most of the juice is gone the coils will overheat and burn whatever's left in there including the wick an remaining spice.

Therefore I prefer to leave a little something in the coils for a future voyage instead of risking beginning an experience with a horrible burn in my throat, I've had an experience with burned spice where the elves came to convince me I had a cactus lodged in my throat, not something I'd want to repeat.
 
Yea I guess with this method there would not be a good way to know for certain what dose is being delivered through a givin puff.

Hows the taste?

I actually vape unflavored 50/50 pg/vg 18mg nicotine as my daily vape, not a fan of flavorings these days.

I am curious to know how you get along with it as time goes on, if the coil gets heavily built up with gunk, or starts tasting off over time.


I use a REO Grand bottom feeder mech mod, with a twisted pair coil wrapped over a stainless steel mesh wick, at about .8 ohms.

Using the rolled SS mesh wick, and unflavored liquid, I have been using the same wick/coil for almost a year without needing any cleaning or replacement, quite awesome, and works great.

Hmmmm.... The potential convenience of this method has me very intrigued :)
 
Hi,
I'm new to this world and not yet try dmt, a question:

Can one make an extract without crystallize and use the goo directly on a globe atomizer like waxes one ?

I would like to buy a portable vape, for smoking oil wax and dry herbs, i want to start vaporizing and maybe forget burn tobacco and maybe stop with tabacco.

Also i'm interested for use a portable vape to stop my Cluster Headache attack, not need to breakout, just a threshold dose can be ok, i can have everywhere my attack stop, better than ozygen and other medicals, for breakouts i can use other methods.

I start to read about mod and so on but it's confusing, can someone tell me some mod that have a variable battery suitable for dmt, hashoil, herbs...and the other tools to use with it ?

Sorry for my english.
Bye
 
Hi to everybody,
this is my first post.
I'm too an avid E-Cig smoker.
I probably puffed with everything available, including mods, sub-ohms, etc.
SWIM have some DMT free base, he also want to try using it via E-Cig delivery.
I suggested to him to use 1:1 DMT : PG ratio.
The coil is super important, I suggested to him to use at least a sub-ohms twisted coil or better a tiger, clapton or, the best, supreme "Staggered Fused Clapton"coil.
The point is that he have to be able to vaporize E-liquid as much as he can per shot to have enough DMT going along with it.
"Staggered Fused Clapton" gives a tremendous amount of vapor and for doing this is sucking an huge quantity of E-liquid.
Cotton wick is a must for this.
Of course he also needs appropriate sub-ohms battery devices like DNA 30 or better.
And a correct rebuildable atomizer, Kayfun or similar, besides they are made for this kind of hard core users, they are build out of SS and Pyrex.
You can "youtube" how to build the proper coils, I mentioned earlier.

Bless you all
 
Al-Wasi said:
Just got my mutation x rda. The vaporshark rDNA 40 has a team business day processing time before shipping right now. It should ship and be at my house later this week.

As soon as it touches down I'll begin testing what temperature to vape at. I'm assuming setting it at its lowest temp will work best.

Will report back soon. I'm optimistic that this set up will make breakthroughs easy as pie and taking a whoke dose easily in one hit simple.
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Any update on this?

Recently purchased a VaporShark rDNA 40 Watt and mutant X to try this method as it's been such a long thread that's recently gone quiet, I'd love to be able to contribute to nailing this.

As recommended I'll us nickle single coil build with 30-32 gauge wire, cotton wick and a 1:1 ratio of DMT to pure PG.

If any one has made any progress in this area or with other vaping devices then please share!!!

Many thanks in advance.
 
I don't like very much the idea of working with sub-ohm and potentially explosive devices but I'm very interested in your feedback anyway! :lol:
 
Since my last post in this thread, I have done some experimenting of my own.

I have vaped about 500mg of magic using this method over the last couple months.

I am just going to brain dump some notes on the topic here;

I have measured out that 1ml is almost exactly 40 drops from a 3ml dropper bottle that I have.

Many people have been citing the "1g to 1ml" ratio as optimal, I have found this to be WAY overkill for my purposes when used in a properly built dripping atomizer.

1g to 1ml = roughly 25mg of magic per drop.

In a properly built atomizer, with good airflow, and a decent amount of power behind it, I can quite easily vape 2 (maybe 3) drops of liquid in it's entirety in one good lungful.


I have mostly been initially testing this at a ratio of 200mg to 1ml. which is approximately 5mg per drop.

I have back to back tested 15mg in my GVG, and 15mg in three drops from the ecig, and the effects are nearly identical, leading me to believe that it is nearly as efficient as the GVG at this level.

The ease of use and discreetness are pretty fantastic.

Being able to take low / moderate doses in places and situations I would never be able to with the GVG is pretty great.


My next batch and round of testing, I will bump it up to 400mg / 1ml, which is 10mg per drop, this may be my personal sweet spot.

I don't add any flavoring, and while the taste of the magic comes through quite strong with this method, I have actually began to enjoy it's odd almost flowery taste on my palette.


Hard to say for sure, but I feel like it comes on a little bit more slowly then in the GVG, and perhaps lasts a little longer in the afterglow stages. I hypothesize that some of the magic laden PG that coats your mouth after a hit, is giving a little bit of extended sublingual dosing in addition to what goes into the lungs and gets worked on right away.
 
Nice post furhenden i've also been experimenting with this method but using the aspire nautilus mini and the eleaf istick 20w with 1g to 1ml and seem to get good effects with 1 puff, i've not pushed it to its full potential yet but I belive you definitely should be able to breakthrough using this method with the right ratio and the amount of puffs
 
sbc1 said:
Nice post furhenden i've also been experimenting with this method but using the aspire nautilus mini and the eleaf istick 20w with 1g to 1ml and seem to get good effects with 1 puff, i've not pushed it to its full potential yet but I belive you definitely should be able to breakthrough using this method with the right ratio and the amount of puffs
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Nice!

Yea I think most tank setups would need the higher ratios, because in general they vape much less then 1 drop per puff, if I hit a tank like I hit my dripper, it would likely get pretty "burnt" tasting on the first puff.


I like the idea of using a tank, but I have concerns about it leaking in the worst possible situation.

Also, having a little dropper bottle of magic, and dosing a specific amount, in a specific quantity of drops, on a device that can easily "clear" a given amount in a hit, is pretty nice for control.
 
If you get a decent tank like the nautilus mini you don't have to worry about leaking and that, i've never dripped or been into rda/rba's so can't really comment, be good to see your setup and maybe keep this thread alive and try and nail this and reach a breakthrough
 
I have a Kayfun Lite, and a few other nice rebuildable tanks, and sure they generally don't leak.

However, in the area I live, it is not terribly uncommon to gain or lose 5,000 ft of elevation in a pretty short distance/timeframe.

The changes in air pressure can cause leaks in even the best tanks.

In addition, high temperatures (another issue where I live) tend to make them leak as well.
 
Yeah suppose so I guess you'd have to do a bit at a time so you don't lose to much if they do end up leaking, I don't have to worry about all that living in Britain
 
I thought about that as well, but it seems harmalas need too high a temperature to be vaped properly with the spice. :thumb_dow
Harmala mouth spray few minutes before vaping?

Thanks for the report furhenden!
 
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