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Vaporized DMT... Multiple attempts!...No effect?!?!?!

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southpawprof

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SWIM has recently extracted about 500mg of freebase DMT from mimosa hostilis root bark. The DMT leaves a numb feeling on the lips and tongue, and smells like burned plastic when vaporized, so SWIM knows it's the good stuff. However, after several attempts with a light bulb vaporizer, and several more attempts out of "the machine"... a homemade "one-hitter" made out of a glass liquor bottle, SWIM has experienced absolutely nothing!?!?! No effects whatsoever. SWIM is keeping the flame away from the DMT as much as possible, and SWIM has gotten what he thought were some pretty good rips, but .. nothing. SWIM is very confused and looking for any advice or tips on what SWIM could be doing wrong. The only things that SWIM can think of is that he has a very weak batch of DMT, or his smoking technique is all wrong.....
 
Assuming you have followed a tek closely and extracted correctly, DMT is DMT ie "weak" DMT is not possible. I take it your dose is sufficient? If you have no effects from 20mg, it's probably smoking method. It's really easy to burn spice.

The easiest way to do it IMO is make some changa or enhanced leaf. You can't go wrong after that really. Have a look in the changa section for some instructions on how to do it.

:d
 
This question seems to come again and again and 99% of the times its actually bad smoking method. If you are smoking anything more than 50mg without having really strong effects, most likely you are smoking it wrong. The bulb is the absolute worst smoking method! The machine seems to be hit or miss for some people. I would strongly suggest getting a vaporgenie, or as said above, making enhanced leaf/changa and smoking in a bong.
 
Could you describe your "Machine".

My friend always uses it, his buddies too, and they always blast off.
 
A friend of mine developed a very simple and effective smoking method :

Proceed as follows :
-Get a straight glass pipe (not much longer than a finger, small diameter, optional: large bowl) and pipe screens.
-Put the first screen into the pipe
-Add your favourite herb/substrate (I use tobacco,parsley e.g. will also work.)
-Put a second screen on top of it
-Sprinkle your spice onto the screen
-By carefully inhaling let the flame of your lighter get near your spice, it will melt and drip onto the substrate layer.
-Once all or most of it has melt, add a little more of your herb onto the top screen.
-Light the top layer and inhale passionately ;-)
-Smoke until most/all of your lower substrate layer has been incinerated

Maybe warm the pipe with your hands or the lighter before starting to smoke.
 
q21q21 said:
Could you describe your "Machine".

My friend always uses it, his buddies too, and they always blast off.

SWIM's machine is a 750ml glass Jim Beam liquor bottle with a 3/8" hole bored into the bottom. SWIM has only tried it twice, both times lining the inside of the cap with tin foil... putting the DMT in the tinfoil, then loosely screwing the cap onto the bottle. Then SWIM slowly vaporizes what he thinks is all of of the DMT (hard to see in there), then quickly removes the cap and takes it all in with one hit. No effects, other than feeling a little funny.

SWIM is frustrated, he was really looking forward to this whole experience. A long journey has led him to this point.

Also running out of DMT with all these failed attempts. SWIM will have to do another extraction soon if this keeps up.
 
way too big volume.
Your spice vapor will only recondense inside your smoking device and you'll hardly get any effect.
Try my friend's method or get at least any more suitable smoking device (a lot smaller!)
 
southpawprof said:
q21q21 said:
Could you describe your "Machine".

My friend always uses it, his buddies too, and they always blast off.

SWIM's machine is a 750ml glass Jim Beam liquor bottle with a 3/8" hole bored into the bottom. SWIM has only tried it twice, both times lining the inside of the cap with tin foil... putting the DMT in the tinfoil, then loosely screwing the cap onto the bottle. Then SWIM slowly vaporizes what he thinks is all of of the DMT (hard to see in there), then quickly removes the cap and takes it all in with one hit. No effects, other than feeling a little funny.

SWIM is frustrated, he was really looking forward to this whole experience. A long journey has led him to this point.

Also running out of DMT with all these failed attempts. SWIM will have to do another extraction soon if this keeps up.


That's definitely not the machine, though SWIM did the exact same thing the first time he tried it, it's a little confusing.
SWIM knows what you mean, he had lots of troubles before he used the machine, now the only trouble he has is making sure he doesn't go too far :D

So what your friend needs to do is remove the cap of the bottle completely and only put it on AFTER smoking.

Get a pack of copper scrubbers. The grocery store or dollar store.
Roll a copper-mesh ball with your hands, one that is just big enough to fit inside the end of the bottle.
SWIM has found that if it is tigher packed then it works better, but it doesn't have to be a solid lump.

Now burn the ball ALL OVER until you no longer get any smoke off of it.
SWIM props it on the end of a safety pin and uses a candle because it doesn't waste lighter fuel.

Once you have your ball then stuff it into the neck of the bottle.
Sprinkle a measured amount of spice onto the copper ball.
Next melt the spice onto the ball with a lighter, as long as it doesn't smoke then there is no loss.

Now invert the bottle and get ready to toke. It's best to toke just like from a bong, constantly
Now hold the lighter and 1-3 inches below the ball as you toke.
Get ready to drop the bottle or pass it, it comes on quick!

You don't have to be TOO careful, it takes a long time with the flame directly on the copper to make it too hot to touch and DMT can survive in too-hot-to-touch places just fine. Just toke and don't worry too much about burning it.
It is not so much that DMT is very unstable, it is more that any sealed container destroys DMT quickly.

If your spice is nice then the device will entice, haha
Cheers

goqql said:
way too big volume.
Your spice vapor will only recondense inside your smoking device and you'll hardly get any effect.
Try my friend's method or get at least any more suitable smoking device (a lot smaller!)

SWIM tried to use a glass soda bottle (355ml) and it was pretty tricky. Tt was hard to aim the lighter, that's all.

It likely won't re-condense too much though, SWIM has let a cloudy vapor sit in his 500ml bubbler with ~200ml of cold water and it took over 10 minutes for the smoke to condense!
 
Ok... My friend knows for sure that his smoking technique is the problem here. He's going to try some of the things mentioned in this thread. He wanted me to thank everybody for their input.

Much appreciation all around.
 
Interestingly, I too was having no effect from vaped DMT today, even though I was using good spice and the GVG!!! It was really alarming! Sorry, this is a topic for a new thread
 
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