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VG VaporGenie: How to use, where to get, advantages, etc

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I've got myself a standard Vapor Genie wich i use with a bed of mint leaves and lavender buds, tastes great, but is it good enough to prevent my DMT from "dripping" through?
 
I am really happy with my GVG and I think that it hits really smooth. However, I am worried about inhaling butane.

I know that butane is combusted and a complete combustion is supposed to yield CO2, H2O and heat under ideal conditions, however, I feel like our yield is far from ideal.

I am tasting butane at the beginning of my hit, is this bad? Could the amount of butane we are getting per hit be harmful?
 
Greetings to you all,

Just wanted to say thank you to everyone for all the contribution.
It's been very helpful having all this information available for making the right choices, i.e equipment (GVG) / type of mesh (Chore Boy Copper), Lighter (Turboflame ARC) and the method required to get the best vape out of your GVP.

All that is left now is to wait for everything to arrive so I can explore the unknown universe.
 
BGTM236 said:
gibran2 said:
I heat up the ceramic diffuser with a torch lighter for a few seconds before I begin inhaling. I then inhale very gently and slowly with the lighter over the diffuser the entire time. I’m always able to inhale a full dose (25-30mg) in one inhalation (I avoid multiple tokes because I don’t like trying to smoke when I can’t tell which of the 3 pairs of hands I see belong to me!* :shock: )

Never, ever use a lighter that won’t turn off if dropped/released. Much too dangerous.


*This actually happened once.
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This is certainly the way to use the vaporgenie. it does take a little practice, but once you get your technique down you can clear up to and maybe even more than 100mg.

And what ever you do, dont use a torch that doesnt turn off. I would imagine that that type of torch is a work torch and has a setting if needed for a constant flame, just dont turn it on.
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Hi, greetings from Norway (new to this forum by the way). I have the VaporGenie myself and I was wondering, is it possible to just inhale veeery long so I can get the full dose in just one toke? I can`t weigh the amount, but I`m using the size of a small pea (which I`ve been told is about 50 mg - enough for a break-trough).
 
SnozzleBerry said:
Intueri said:
...I was wondering, is it possible to just inhale veeery long so I can get the full dose in just one toke?...
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This is actually what many of us here are trying to do every time :thumb_up:

If you want to go this way (all in one toke), then I would suggest not eyeballing the amount of Spice. 25-30mg in one properly vaporized toke = almost certain breakthrough for most people.

I suggest not overdoing it for the first time... :shock:
 
Michal_R said:
SnozzleBerry said:
Intueri said:
...I was wondering, is it possible to just inhale veeery long so I can get the full dose in just one toke?...
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Yes
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This is actually what many of us here are trying to do every time :thumb_up:

If you want to go this way (all in one toke), then I would suggest not eyeballing the amount of Spice. 25-30mg in one properly vaporized toke = almost certain breakthrough for most people.

I suggest not overdoing it for the first time... :shock:
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I don`t have anything to weigh it with, so perhaps I should just take 2-3 tokes then. Hmm 20-30 mg only? Everywhere else I`ve been reading, people have been talking about 50 mg ...
 
Intueri said:
Hmm 20-30 mg only? Everywhere else I`ve been reading, people have been talking about 50 mg...
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IMO, 50mg as a recommended dose is a "relic" from those "old days" when GVG was not available yet, from those times we would be burning most of our Spice, caughing some of it out, and/or not inhaling everything in one toke.

Most users of GVGs load less Spice, I would say around 30mgs, because they know that 30mgs in one toke will be more than enough for a breakthrough. Look (read) around on this topic.

Safe journeys!
 
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I haven't the time to read through all of the posts. I smoke spice through a glass pipe and it works pretty well for me. Is the GVG really so different? I'm all for taking it to the next level.

When I'm smoking through my glass pipe is it not being "vaporized"? I would love it if there is a device that can increase my yield by allowing me to smoke less and breakthrough.

Thanks:thumb_up:
 
RayTracer, forsure its different, the GVG is so much more effective than a glass pipe, there is a reason why so many people rave on about it.

If you have the bucks to spare then id say go ahead and treat yourself, you deserve it.
 
I'm sold! Thanks gammagore. Love your avatar btw. Sometimes when I breakthrough I "chimpout". I know it sounds really wacky, but for some really strange reason, I start making chimp like sounds. It's very subtle and quite...almost like humming to myself, but it sounds and feels very primitive/primateish. I don't do it everytime, it happens usually when I breakthrough outside. I get this almost possesd animal thing going. It all feels so familiar and "right".

I feel like an ape in awe. It reminds me a little of the Bill Hicks bit when he enacts the ape eating shrooms for the first time.
It's very involuntary. Almost like the dmt is tickling my ancient DNA. Spice is so amazing!
 
I bought the GVG and it is by far my favorite way to enjoy spice. You won't even think your getting a good hit but when you finally exhale WOW. It is a great investment if your goal is to travel through hyperspace.
 
RayTracer said:
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I haven't the time to read through all of the posts. I smoke spice through a glass pipe and it works pretty well for me. Is the GVG really so different? I'm all for taking it to the next level.

When I'm smoking through my glass pipe is it not being "vaporized"? I would love it if there is a device that can increase my yield by allowing me to smoke less and breakthrough.

Thanks:thumb_up:
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Never tried the GVG but I owned a VG that I bought for just regular vaping. I then, without ever have reading about it, started to experiment using it with spice. Ending up working so well I wasn't sure why anyone would try all the other bullshit ways. Found out it was a popular way after that, and now I want to try the gvg
 
I'm concerned with this vaporgenie. I looked up how this apparatus works and it seems like you're inhaling a lot of butane when you vape.
 
If you've got a good torch, the butane is burned up/off with the flame.

Butane has a pretty noticeable smell and flavor. I can't recall ever smelling or tasting butane when using my vaporgenie with the Arc lighter that's been recommended all over.
 
Hi all,

I have spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to get the DMT vaporized with the GVG and I didn't get any more than low hallucinogen and body high effects. I have never been a smoker, and also never vaped anything, so there is a problem with my tek for sure.
I think that the one of the problems is that the DMT melts through the six-eight screens I put, so I just bought today some stainless scrubber (didn't find copper), I have read that It can be worst, but I have cleaned and burned it, tried in the VGV to smoke with only the scrubber, and I didn't get any effect or bad taste, so I suppose It's good enought for now.
I will also try changa soon.
As this will be my last time that I test without going first to buy some herbs to practice first and do changa, I'm gonna post some pics so you can see if the stainless filter I have made is good enought, or I have to do it in another way.
As I don't feel like posting here the images in a directly way, that would make a bigger post making it uncomfortable I just let here the link to the album with eight photos of everything.
I suppose that I have to put just one screen down the scrubber filter no ?
https://imgur.com/a/9xGah
Thank you all, and hope that in this try I can go to the hyperspace, and not to the not much rewarding world of the body high and very low patternings and CEVs. :thumb_up:
 
hello Dersu,

that ball looks to big to me, you want to aim for a thinner disc. Mine fits under the little lip in the bottom of the chamber and then i pop a screen on top.

somewhere on the site (prob in this thread) there is a pic of the copper disc that Gibran2 fashioned if you need some reference.
 
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