I've read through alot of posts about the classic vg and I'm pretty much set on buying one but I'm left a bit confused from what I understand you would load spice onto the metal screens then assemble and use, but from what I've read the spice will easily be wasted by melting through the screen and dripping down, to fix this couldn't you use more screens (how many would you need?) Also would a metal scrubber be an adequate fix, melt the spice into the scrubber then laying it on top of the screen assembling back together then vaporising as usual
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VG VaporGenie: How to use, where to get, advantages, etc
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Long time no see aha thanks for the reply
I'll buy a pad then
Also do you have experience with the 2 sounds funny but I way rather the vg based of aesthetics to me the wood is so much prettier, from what I understand with some practice it'll deliver pretty similar results and I don't mind if it's lower price is at the cost of more required skill and practice, unless you really recommend against it there's alot of mixed opinions in this thread
I'm using a classic VG with a pad. Previously I used to layer some dried mint leaves on top of the screen before putting spices on it, but with the pad I can get a hit way more effectively.
Question : do you recommend keeping the screen and/or the "coil" underneath the pad ? I currently just have the pad and the coil (haven't found a way to gently remove it), but today I have noticed quite some residue all around the chamber and I wondered if having the screen would help in any way.
Side question : how worried should I be about residue ? When I still had just the screen I tried to keep my VG clean after a session, but now removing the pad seems to deform/damage it so I'm not sure how often/thorough I should be.
Question : do you recommend keeping the screen and/or the "coil" underneath the pad ? I currently just have the pad and the coil (haven't found a way to gently remove it), but today I have noticed quite some residue all around the chamber and I wondered if having the screen would help in any way.
Side question : how worried should I be about residue ? When I still had just the screen I tried to keep my VG clean after a session, but now removing the pad seems to deform/damage it so I'm not sure how often/thorough I should be.
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New to the Nexus but not to the spice 
I started out using an “oil burner” style piece and eventually came across the Vapor Genie. I got the glass Sherlock and I highly recommend it. It’s such a nicer experience going into it, no intense flavor or smell. You’ll thank yourself 
I started out using an “oil burner” style piece and eventually came across the Vapor Genie. I got the glass Sherlock and I highly recommend it. It’s such a nicer experience going into it, no intense flavor or smell. You’ll thank yourself For anyone reading through I advise you go for the gvg over classic vg. I have been using the vapor genie classic for a while now (20+ experiences) and have failed to break through even once. I've tried crystals, goo, torch lighters, Bic lighter, pre-melting spice, measuring doses, slow long inhales (~30sec), faster hotter inhales, 1 screen, 4 screens, letting my torch touch the ceramic filter.
For some extra info I'm using a steal pad to load spice and usually load 25mg+ per use (pre-melted) and I hold inhales for 10-30 seconds
Any help with using VG classic would be much appreciated I'm all outta sorts.
For some extra info I'm using a steal pad to load spice and usually load 25mg+ per use (pre-melted) and I hold inhales for 10-30 seconds
Any help with using VG classic would be much appreciated I'm all outta sorts.
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Hay everyone. Just need some advice about using the stainless steel liquid pad in the GVG. Some melted spice is leaking through into the pipe each time I smoke. Is this perhaps because I'm not getting all the spice loaded perfectly on the pad so some goes down the sides? Should I just concentrate on loading the spice more carefully or should I change the pad?
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(Di)ogenes42 said:
Use 3 to 5 screens and you should be good.
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Voidmatrix said:
Thanks, I'll try that. But are the 3 to 5 screens in addition to or in replacement of the liquid pad?
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Took your advice, and also used a much stronger torch lighter...Cleared the whole dose in one glorious toke with nothing left behind! Just voluptuous vapour that carried me straight up to hyperspace, up up on a cloud. I think my main issue was a weak lighter all along...
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Does anyone have any experience using the Vapor Genie Steel Pads? I am waiting for my order and I chose to also order one of these. Looks just like a steel chore boy but already formed into the right shape and everything. Hoping it works good as is. I'll report back once I get it and have time to test it out. It was only 3 bucks by the way. More than a chore boy but worth it to me for the convenience and ease of use...if it works well that is.
Edit: I only ordered 1 pad but they sent me two. So far seems to work great. I'm still learning and need more practice but even with 30mg loaded none got past the steel liquid pad. Seems to be able to hold a good amount. Also GVG is much easier to learn then emesh is to dial in, at least in my experience.
Edit: I only ordered 1 pad but they sent me two. So far seems to work great. I'm still learning and need more practice but even with 30mg loaded none got past the steel liquid pad. Seems to be able to hold a good amount. Also GVG is much easier to learn then emesh is to dial in, at least in my experience.
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Yes there is a thread about it : VaporGenie Liquid Pad
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I like the vapor stones better than the pads
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Hey all ! Bumping an old post here, but I'd be in need of some help using my classic (wooden) VG.
Across multiple tries (around 20 in the last three years) I've never been able to breakthrough, all my trips are rather short (5 to maybe 8 minutes I'd say) regardless of the dose (I've done from 15 to 65mg). I have tried bic lighter, torch lighter, very deep slow breath in, holding for 15+ seconds, two tokes (can't manage the third), steel pad, etc.
My trips always feel like what I've seen described as the "waiting room", always enjoyable but I feel like there is much more I'd like to explore. I am pretty sure my smoking technique is bad or at least lacking, but I can't understand what I am doing wrong.
What usually happens is this :
- Take a couple of tokes "dry" to heat up the pipe and the pad.
- Load whatever dose I want
- Lie down, relax and begin first toke. I breathe in slowly, using either a bic or torch lighter (bic seems to work better for me), very quickly I feel I am inhaling the DMT vapor, that I recognize by a specific "harsh" feeling in my lungs, not burning, probably caustic I'd say. I try to continue to inhale through the discomfort, then hold my breath for 10-15 seconds.
- As I breathe out, I try to gather my strength for second toke. Same as first but a bit more sloppy since I am starting to go.
- I have never been able to compose myself enough for a third toke, the rush is way too intense at this point.
- Trip unfolds, is usually strong for 3 to 5 minutes then very abruptly subsides. This is constant whatever the dose.
Each experience has been very enjoyable, some particularly great, but really never to the level of the trip reports I've been reading here and there. I feel almost like I am wasting my spice. For a while I was planning on getting a GVG but it seems it doesn't exist anymore (at least it's virtually unobtainable in EU) so I can either improve my class VG technique or get something else.
Are there any user of the classic that could give me some pointers ?
Across multiple tries (around 20 in the last three years) I've never been able to breakthrough, all my trips are rather short (5 to maybe 8 minutes I'd say) regardless of the dose (I've done from 15 to 65mg). I have tried bic lighter, torch lighter, very deep slow breath in, holding for 15+ seconds, two tokes (can't manage the third), steel pad, etc.
My trips always feel like what I've seen described as the "waiting room", always enjoyable but I feel like there is much more I'd like to explore. I am pretty sure my smoking technique is bad or at least lacking, but I can't understand what I am doing wrong.
What usually happens is this :
- Take a couple of tokes "dry" to heat up the pipe and the pad.
- Load whatever dose I want
- Lie down, relax and begin first toke. I breathe in slowly, using either a bic or torch lighter (bic seems to work better for me), very quickly I feel I am inhaling the DMT vapor, that I recognize by a specific "harsh" feeling in my lungs, not burning, probably caustic I'd say. I try to continue to inhale through the discomfort, then hold my breath for 10-15 seconds.
- As I breathe out, I try to gather my strength for second toke. Same as first but a bit more sloppy since I am starting to go.
- I have never been able to compose myself enough for a third toke, the rush is way too intense at this point.
- Trip unfolds, is usually strong for 3 to 5 minutes then very abruptly subsides. This is constant whatever the dose.
Each experience has been very enjoyable, some particularly great, but really never to the level of the trip reports I've been reading here and there. I feel almost like I am wasting my spice. For a while I was planning on getting a GVG but it seems it doesn't exist anymore (at least it's virtually unobtainable in EU) so I can either improve my class VG technique or get something else.
Are there any user of the classic that could give me some pointers ?
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