While I generally agree with every word you've said regarding the situation in which we currently find ourselves, I do think a substance like DMT can play a part in helping us along towards a greater understanding of reality. Perhaps not via psychonaut exploration, ayahuasca tourism, or other such pursuits, but once DMT is scientifically accepted as an authentic portal for consciousness, I believe its implementation can revolutionize our lives like so many other technological breakthroughs before it. It's hard to say how that would actually look, but I believe the potential is there, even if only in hundreds of years in the future when humans have evolved and are ready for it.Thanks for sharing. What can one say about it all? Modern culture
When something becomes a commodity, it kind of loses its sacred part. I'm all for research and such, but we bring our Western worldview with its limitations into it.
It's one thing when you have an open mind about it all, but we don't. It feels like modern culture tries to fit DMT into its narrative. Haha, good luck. It would only shake things up.
I'm losing interest in this, actually. Too many ideas about the unknown. And what's the end goal beyond pure curiosity? What rubs me the most is that it's all heavily ego-driven, or it feels that way to me. It's not like ayahuasca tourism is any better. Maybe we need all the help we can get. However, it always leads to perversion with us.
Dark times indeed, with human morals and self-awareness at a very low point. With all our tech advancements and progress, we still can't relax and live from a higher perspective. Humans are neurotic apes. We are totally insane, and no DMT is going to fix it. It's up to us to see it and lead the ship to safe haven. Although DMT and other medicines could be a good help in this process. End of rambling
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for this research and any attempt to understand more about ourselves. DMT could also be a great tool in psychotherapy.
Right, there's no denying how screwed we currently are in terms of society-at-large's level of awareness/development. When I zoom out and examine, you have a very solid point about the likelihood of adoption for any of this. Or if it is adopted, it'd probably be for a twisted form of profit, lol. Like you, I don't see a clear way out of this situation either. Perhaps a catastrophe is what's needed to catalyze a desirable change. Though if it's bad enough, there may be far fewer people around for the aftermath.
lol I love it, thank you.
God knows I agree with you there. If nothing else, people like you and I and those who are initiated are blessed in being aware of the possibilities. Even if vast numbers of the population are shortsighted to their own potential, we're lucky enough to know otherwise, and we have the option of acting on that awareness. I'm very grateful for that.
I like the bodhisattva principle from Mahayana: we work on our own awakening for the sake of all sentient beings.
I think it's awesome how he helped develop a method for keeping someone in the breakthrough state for an extended period of time. Since I'm a big fan of subcutaneous injection, I've considered trying to replicate the method using an insulin pump. For a home experiment, an extended breakthrough may be a bit dangerous, but an extended sub-breakthrough might be worth a try.
From the comments there:
That's a fair question. After all, those of us who frequent a forum like this one don't necessarily need a third party to inform us about the profundity of DMT, and we certainly don't need someone to sell us that information.
lol, perhaps either a bit of grifting or a bit of ignorance. It's always surprising to discover what people don't know, even when they're in a position of authority on a subject.
I agree with you on that. I hope he publishes the protocol so it can be done elsewhere by others with access to the proper equipment.
It has been published, but the equipment to perform it may be a barrier to many.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
For our current situation, I don't necessarily disagree, but I do think there's a clear line of demarcation between esoteric and exoteric religion. The latter dominates at the moment, and it's almost entirely non-transformational and shallow. But if a true esoteric understanding ever got a foothold in the world, I believe something significant would happen. I could hardly guess what that'd be, but I don't think it'd be a continuation of the status quo.
And it has been the case for a very long time, sadly. Maybe forever, although it's hard to know how small, pre-agrarian societies were.
I agree. I'm not sure it's possible, but it may be the only scenario I envision where we get to a better situation without a gigantic catastrophe in the middle. Other than the opposition of different worldly powers to this, a difficulty for such a transformation at a large scale is that an esoteric path is personal and internal, there are few if any social factors that can catalyze it. Social factors tend to involve signaling, imitation, etc. and that's not conductive to an internal transformation.
100%. Though I'm also a believer that our prehistorical past is probably more astonishing than we realize, and there may have even been a time when authentic spiritual transformation was common.
You're right, it's so easy for anyone to make a claim about their internal experience. To cross the barrier of belief for many, I think it would take something that demonstrates an undeniable bridge between the internal and the external. The DMTx experiments could potentially achieve it, assuming verifiably true and unknowable information could be pulled from hyperspace in a reliable manner. Or maybe technology itself could provide evidence for consciousness's primacy through the use of electromagnetic resonance with other dimensions.
