Volunteers for a joint MJ study?

[spawn9076]

I think Im on to something big at the moment with regards to smoking MJ in large doses.

I have smoked for a long time i guess with mj and have built up a tolerance as with some close friends. Recently use of a bong and really smoking huge bowls like i would try a breakthrough on DMT. the highs you get can be very extreme and provide some CEV's.

I've been meditating whilst this high using some high pitch audio frequencies and the effects and something very similar to smoking DMT at sub breakthrough.

has anyone else an experience in this field of extreme cannabis dosing and meditation?

thanks in advanced if anyone has already got information regarding this.

 

[Psybin]

I honestly recommend you check out concentrates if you haven't already. After a point, no matter how much cannabis you smoke you hit a wall. But, take a one gram dab and you'll be outa commission for a minute. Plus, I find the higher ration of THC to other compounds gives a more psychedelic effect. I usually go through about an 8th ounce of wax every two weeks, and when I smoke I experience effects similar to 100ug of LSD (although this has been the case only after I did a thumbprint, which influences my highs to this day).

 

[Just Say Know]

Hmm; i don't oftenly get to smoke a large quantity of cannabis but when i do i manage to recieve auditory hallucinations and ive never noticed CEV. but i also havent' ever tried honey oil/wax. i'll have to try it someimes i've also considered eating dissasociative doses of Cannabis edibles.

 

[null24]

this has been the case only after I did a thumbprint, which influences my highs to this day).

Oh my god i just spit out my coffee laughing!

 

[spawn9076]

my experiences seemed to start after I did something stupid, I was showing off in front of friends and smoke 1 g on honey cured hashish my friend had made.

the highs from that were truly life changing in a general manner aswell

 

[universecannon]

Yes, but I try and ease into the psychedelic cannabis states slowly. Otherwise it can induce anxiety for me.

Tolerance is a big factor but people vary tremendously when it comes to the effects of cannabis.

 

[Varox]

With high doses of smoked MJ (a big joint of pure Amnesia Haze sprinkled with a potent pakistani hash and then smoking the whole thing straight on) I have experienced OEVs as if I had taken a small dose of mushrooms. I also experience often that gravity has changed direction, like feeling you are watching down while you are actually looking forward, and stuff like that. Auditory hallucinations are common even at not so strong doses of MJ..

 

[Spaced Out 2]

I've also had the gravity effects, but mine had me locked down, and felt like a 4 inch diameter beam of electrons entering the top of my head, this was from some very strong edibles. The OEV was minor to moderate, while the body high was crazy intense. Couldn't close my eye's so I don't know if I would've seen any CEVs. It did induce some mild anxiety but I managed fine.

 

[CastleBravo]

Personally I find that whenever I smoke cannabis flower I can only smoke so much before I stop getting any higher.

But, with concentrates, I've never hit that ceiling, and if it does exist it must be way farther up than I've been. The most THC I've ingested in one go was a 2.5g piece of wax baked into a Toblerone chocolate bar, it hit me in 10 (yes, 10) minutes and was in a daze for nearly a day and a half. Personally I found it to have some slight hallucinogenic effects, I experienced some closed eye visuals that appeared to be multi-colored hexagons everywhere.

And as luck would have it I did meditate during this experience, I'm a Tai Chi practitioner and decided to practice some basic movements and do some "energy work" for a few hours. I experienced a really warm and "fuzzy" sensation that I would say are similar to the body high from mushrooms, only less intense. There was also some headspace but it felt more along the lines of dissociation than psychedelic.

It is also worth noting that I ingested an eighth of mushrooms two days prior, so maybe an afterglow was still around.

 

[cubeananda]

I've been smoking a moon-pebbles (my version of moon rocks) recently wherein I took 4 grams of wax, 1 gram of kief and mixed it up, and then thoroughly mixed that in with good outdoor trimmings and some flower.

Needless to say its a pretty potent smoking blend, and really what I found is very much in line with how castle bravo describes it.

When I'm smoking a flower joint usually it hits me right away in a sense and I integrate the high quickly, but if I roll this moony pebbles into a joint half the joint leaves me in a state where I takes multiple hours before I can even sense how high I am. Including a very psychedelic state especially in terms of visual impressions. Also I have personally found that if you shock your system with a fast and high enough intake the anxiety factor isn't really applicable.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

MJ's bad, plain and simple.

it fries the life force.

A certain native american tribe (forget which one, somewhere in southwest u.s.a.) says it contains an evil spirit which "takes the form of the user's soul"

i've felt the exact same thing happen to me when i smoked it

like a spirit got inside me.

and its totally counterproductive if working with ayahuasca.

 

[Varox]

MJ's bad, plain and simple.

it fries the life force.

A certain native american tribe (forget which one, somewhere in southwest u.s.a.) says it contains an evil spirit which "takes the form of the user's soul"

i've felt the exact same thing happen to me when i smoked it

like a spirit got inside me.

and its totally counterproductive if working with ayahuasca.

Plain and simple?

Evil spirit?

Counterproductive if working with ayahuasca?

And you base all this on?...

 

[ancientwarrior333]

Counterproductive if working with ayahuasca?

And you base all this on?...

my personal experience.

i was doing deep healing work with ayahuasca and i used a tiny amount of cannabis during the healing work and it completely ruined and un-did what the ayahuasca was doing to/for me.

it is a known FACT that cannabis interferes with ayahuasca work/purification, ask any good shaman.

 

[Psybin]

this has been the case only after I did a thumbprint, which influences my highs to this day).

Oh my god i just spit out my coffee laughing!

I hope it didn't stain anything :d :surprised

 

[Varox]

Counterproductive if working with ayahuasca?

And you base all this on?...

my personal experience.

i was doing deep healing work with ayahuasca and i used a tiny amount of cannabis during the healing work and it completely ruined and un-did what the ayahuasca was doing to/for me.

it is a known FACT that cannabis interferes with ayahuasca work/purification, ask any good shaman.

I have never done aya yet and would really like to hear others' opinion on this.

I can easily believe that some people think (or a lot of people) that cannabis and aya do not mix, but calling it a FACT? It does make me suspicious at the very least...

On a different note I think that you should be careful with your language. Stating things as "plain and simple" and quickly calling things "facts" based on your own experience (or for that matter what a shaman thinks) it's just not how an educated discussion is conducted. You may very well state something along the lines of: In my opinion MJ is an evil spirit because X"... Or "I have experienced that the combination of cannabis and ayahuasca Y" or even "In the opinion of a number of shamans Z..."

Cheers!

 

[DansMaTete]

it is a known FACT that cannabis interferes with ayahuasca work/purification, ask any good shaman.

And how do you recognise a good shaman ? A good shaman is a shaman who says MJ is evil of course !

:twisted:

 

[humble bumble]

Doesn't the Santo Daime church work a lot with marihuana ( 'Santa Maria' ) alongside ayahuasca?

 

[slewb]

my personal experience.

...and of course your own subjective personal experience applies to everyone else on the planet, right? I don't like weed either, that doesn't mean it can't have benefits for other people.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

my personal experience.

...and of course your own subjective personal experience applies to everyone else on the planet, right? I don't like weed either, that doesn't mean it can't have benefits for other people.

you don't need to be so critical about it.

mj does not mix with ayahuasca work, that is all i am saying. I can say that with certainty.

 

[DansMaTete]

my personal experience.

...and of course your own subjective personal experience applies to everyone else on the planet, right? I don't like weed either, that doesn't mean it can't have benefits for other people.

you don't need to be so critical about it.

mj does not mix with ayahuasca work, that is all i am saying. I can say that with certainty.

And you can certainly forget to notice humble bumble post

Doesn't the Santo Daime church work a lot with marihuana ( 'Santa Maria' ) alongside ayahuasca?

You should tell them they are not on the right path. Save them !