Volunteers for a joint MJ study?

[ancientwarrior333]

my personal experience.

...and of course your own subjective personal experience applies to everyone else on the planet, right? I don't like weed either, that doesn't mean it can't have benefits for other people.

you don't need to be so critical about it.

mj does not mix with ayahuasca work, that is all i am saying. I can say that with certainty.

And you can certainly forget to notice humble bumble post

Doesn't the Santo Daime church work a lot with marihuana ( 'Santa Maria' ) alongside ayahuasca?

You should tell them they are not on the right path. Save them !

no need to be sarcastic.

 

[DansMaTete]

No need to be full of certainty

But you're right, sarcasm is not nice and i'm prone to it.

My apologies

 

[ancientwarrior333]

it's ok, i'm sorry too. we're all friends here

 

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My best and strongest experience with Aya was in combination with vaporized cannabis during the come-up. I previously had taken a 3 week break from smoking cannabis, so my tolerance was very low. I've had 3-4 successful ayahuasca journeys since then, all with cannabis. While none compared to the first combination on low tolerance, they were all very beautiful, healing experiences. They synergize exceptionally well in my opinion. Not only to counter the nausea, but to relax myself into a state that can truly appreciate the visuals and messages being received.

I'm not inexperienced though. I'm very comfortable with any amount of cannabis so paranoia or w/e is not a worry for me. I've had friends also partaking in the Aya sessions that both do and don't prefer smoking on Aya. It all seems to depend on how they feel about cannabis before the Aya. If you believe it's going to affect you in a negative way, it probably will.

Trying really hard not to include a personal attack, but I find impositions like ancientwarrior333's insulting. Just because you're weak-minded doesn't mean it's true of everyone or that cannabis is the culprit.

 

[ancientwarrior333]

Trying really hard not to include a personal attack, but I find impositions like ancientwarrior333's insulting. Just because you're weak-minded doesn't mean it's true of everyone or that cannabis is the culprit.

calling me out as "weak-minded" most certainly IS a personal attack.

its my experience that cannabis ruined my healing and ascension process in a really bad way, it is a fact, cannabis most certainly WAS the culprit in my situation.

 

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Trying really hard not to include a personal attack, but I find impositions like ancientwarrior333's insulting. Just because you're weak-minded doesn't mean it's true of everyone or that cannabis is the culprit.

calling me out as "weak-minded" most certainly IS a personal attack.

its my experience that cannabis ruined my healing and ascension process in a really bad way, it is a fact, cannabis most certainly WAS the culprit in my situation.

Thank you for taking responsibility for your personal experience and not wording it in a way that disrespects cannabis and its potential for others.

 

[CastleBravo]

It is my personal opinion that marijuana can affect a healing process depending on what psychedelic is being used, to what degree, and what strain of MJ is smoked. Any Indica will induce less anxiety and a lower head-high. On a day when I ingested 3.5g of dried liberty caps, I found myself slowly slipping into a bad experience. I smoked one joint and was a calm clam for the rest of the trip. I wouldn't call marijuana out on being possessed by an evil spirit, it does a lot of good for me now that I stopped smoking every day and kept it as frequent as my psychedelic use (which is about once every two or three months).

I cannot however pass judgement on the use of it in combination with ayahuasca, since I've never tried it, but different drugs affect different people differently, so I can only assume that it may help for one person while it does not help for another.

Come to think of it, I've always heard ayahuasca is nausea-inducing, and marijuana has anti-nauseating properties, so I think it can at least help in that regard.

 

[cubeananda]

+1 for cold, hard, level-headed, scientific evaluation upon a common ground.

 

[spawn9076]

wow i think people are missing the point of the benefits of cannabis being used solely and not to mention the differences between people.

i can honestly see why using a bit of cannabis during any interaction with DMT would not be adviseable if the user does not have previous tolerance highs of MJ.

however people who have a history of use and high tolerances who have actively enjoyed the feelings can have purposefully healing experiences with which i have encountered myself.

I would suggest any evil spirit with cannabis was a subject of your own mind from proganda and your own beliefs which for some may never change.

my own use of MJ has been very extreme tbh and I've had fantastically healing experiences from MJ alone. I would point out to anyone who smokes the odd bit of MJ may stay away from this. I have pushed myself to the limits of highs from cannabis I did not understand existed, meditation with this tool is very very very powerful.

 

[CastleBravo]

wow i think people are missing the point of the benefits of cannabis being used solely and not to mention the differences between people.

i can honestly see why using a bit of cannabis during any interaction with DMT would not be adviseable if the user does not have previous tolerance highs of MJ.

however people who have a history of use and high tolerances who have actively enjoyed the feelings can have purposefully healing experiences with which i have encountered myself.

I would suggest any evil spirit with cannabis was a subject of your own mind from proganda and your own beliefs which for some may never change.

my own use of MJ has been very extreme tbh and I've had fantastically healing experiences from MJ alone. I would point out to anyone who smokes the odd bit of MJ may stay away from this. I have pushed myself to the limits of highs from cannabis I did not understand existed, meditation with this tool is very very very powerful.

Good post, I agree completely. I think that the point regarding any evil spirit being a creation of one's own mind (opposed as to being "inherently evil") can be further bolstered by my own experiences, when I was using marijuana heavily it progressed into me enjoying the high less and noticing effects of anxiety more frequently than before. Before that era, though, I did get quite a lot of mental help from it - I saw my grades rise, my confidence go up, I was less anxious about things when I was sober.

I don't see how any plant can be inherently evil with its highs... except maybe possibly somewhat Datura