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What are your favorite TEK’s with MHRB, and what tweaks have you done that work for you???
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I’ve used almost all of them, I was just curious what everyone else’s go to was
Alev-Kev
Just a consciousness walking around in a meatsak
Welllll..... since ya asked... I've created my "own" TEK called Hybrid-hybrid TEK. I took pieces of 3 other extractions and combined them to make, what I've found is the most effective, though a bit more steps. I can get EVERYTHING out of the bark in 3 pulls. I'll be posting another Step-by-Step, soon.
I'm have tested a Heated Ultrasonic cleaner.
24hr sit on 60c, than 3x 30min ultrasone every 2-4 hours.
Than two pulls with old NPS to get the fat and other alkaloids out.
After adding NaHO another 3 pulls with fresh NPS.
Next time I'll bring the temp down back to 24c before pulling.
24hr sit on 60c, than 3x 30min ultrasone every 2-4 hours.
Than two pulls with old NPS to get the fat and other alkaloids out.
After adding NaHO another 3 pulls with fresh NPS.
Next time I'll bring the temp down back to 24c before pulling.
Alev-Kev
Just a consciousness walking around in a meatsak
Hybrid-Hybrid Tek
Why the edit and the change to cold Nap in warm Solution? The result of my first pull (warm N in warm S) wasn't that clean as I was looking for, but cold N in warm S did the job for me. Happy extracting, tseuq
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That’s awesome, can’t wait to read. I’ve found that I do small things from all the different teks as well, though have not developed anything specific. Just what feels right
Does the ultrasonic create any emulsion? I think I wanna try it
How does that compare to other methods you've tried? What % are you yielding?
I rarely have emulsions, and if I do I just add a little more water.
It take's a little more time / patience. I've done a side by side comparison only once, next time I'll weigh it before the re-x and share the results. This time it was a 10-15% more yield after re-x, which is not really worth it imo.
I was thinking of doing the next 100gr with a 3x cycle with fresh water and later reduce it to see if fresh water absorbs more.
The DMT handbook is tried and true and always makes pure white xtals if done properly. Only method I use personally.
Fr0st.spekter
Rising Star
I have had pretty good success with using MHRB- STB + Sea Salt, and now experimenting using d-Limonene as a non-toxic, eco-friendly alternative. And it smells nice too; which makes it a little more pleasant, appealing, and stealthy 
I have had some good hybrid methods and ideas from the books I have read. I have attached a photo of them.
I have had some good hybrid methods and ideas from the books I have read. I have attached a photo of them.
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I use CYB's hybrid ATB salt tec. Great results every time. Beautiful snow white xtals using heptane
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I'm still in the long process of running experiments with my own personal TEK (borrowed from other TEKS of course) but you can see my results testing out different methods and see for yourself which processes were beneficial to my yield.
You can see that extraction 5 had the best results because I used the freeze/thaw method (cell lysis) with the MHRB in an acidic solution instead of just water. I don't believe you need to do this 10x and can get away with just 4x as Cybs Max Ion suggests. But if you're not in a rush, just take it in and out of the freezer a few times day.
I also make sure to pull ALL of the solvent even it means inevitably pulling some of the aqueous solution along with it, as I then perform a sodium carbonate wash to separate the layers in a separatory funnel in order to decant the aqueous solution. Not needed, but I don't like waste!
Link to my TEK - Toshido's Hot Plate A/B TEK
You can see that extraction 5 had the best results because I used the freeze/thaw method (cell lysis) with the MHRB in an acidic solution instead of just water. I don't believe you need to do this 10x and can get away with just 4x as Cybs Max Ion suggests. But if you're not in a rush, just take it in and out of the freezer a few times day.
I also make sure to pull ALL of the solvent even it means inevitably pulling some of the aqueous solution along with it, as I then perform a sodium carbonate wash to separate the layers in a separatory funnel in order to decant the aqueous solution. Not needed, but I don't like waste!
Link to my TEK - Toshido's Hot Plate A/B TEK
Nice job keeping notes of your experiments.
I'm curious if you repeat the same technique a few times how much the yield could differ. To establish a margin of error.
Also, is the yield you're measuring just the first pull? Or combined pulls? I wonder if doing one more pull on a lower yielding technique could make up the difference, for less effort than the steps involved in a higher yielding technique.
And I wonder why the 6th extraction was less. Maybe the salt lowered the freezing point of the acidic water enough to affect the lysing somehow. Or something to do with the water volume.
I'm curious if you put the bark in a flask and desiccated the air inside to remove all water, how that might affect the freeze / thaw. Maybe it would still work to freeze/thaw a dry, loose powder. I wonder what would happen in liquid nitrogen, the coldest conditions possible -- would the powder not harden into a block without water gluing the particles together? I wonder if you grind it while -200c if you could mechanically lyse it.
I'm curious if you repeat the same technique a few times how much the yield could differ. To establish a margin of error.
Also, is the yield you're measuring just the first pull? Or combined pulls? I wonder if doing one more pull on a lower yielding technique could make up the difference, for less effort than the steps involved in a higher yielding technique.
And I wonder why the 6th extraction was less. Maybe the salt lowered the freezing point of the acidic water enough to affect the lysing somehow. Or something to do with the water volume.
I'm curious if you put the bark in a flask and desiccated the air inside to remove all water, how that might affect the freeze / thaw. Maybe it would still work to freeze/thaw a dry, loose powder. I wonder what would happen in liquid nitrogen, the coldest conditions possible -- would the powder not harden into a block without water gluing the particles together? I wonder if you grind it while -200c if you could mechanically lyse it.
This is why I try to change one variable at a time and I can't wait to test all of these things out. Extraction 6 was puzzling as well, but my guess is that because there was so much more liquid that the MHRB was spaced out as a slurry instead of being tightly condensed. But your idea about the salt could also be a factor.
These were 4 pulls, not just 1.
And I will try to do a double run of #5 again to compare yields. Also keep in mind what we call in the bar business "spillage". Some crystallization dish scrapes are more efficient than others, I try to get as much as I can out of the dish before doing a final weigh, but those measurements are most likely in the 100ths of a gram. These are all from the same batch of powdered MHRB as well so no worries on that variable.
Another factor could be length of time in the freezer, but I doubt that, as once it's frozen it's frozen. Freezer burn maybe? I wrap a beaker in cellophane wrap but there is an air gap, I wonder if I pressed the wrap down onto the auqeous solution to prevent freezer burn it would help more. Maybe more experiments to do. I have enough for 13 more runs, so I want to make the most of it. Always looking for suggestions, if you want to follow feel free to post on my extraction thread some variables you'd like to see and I'll do it. Def going back to #5 and tweaking from there though.
