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What can I do with B-Caapi and Chaliponga leaves

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ghostman

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Hi all,

I have a mate coming to visit me this weekend. It'll be his introduction to Spice.

At home I have some good clean spice and two blends of Changa (Ayahuasca Android - 70/30 Chaliponga/B-Caapi 1:1 Spice and Electric Sheep 50/50 Blue Lotus/Calea 1:1 Spice)

I have 100 g Chaliponga and 25 g Banisteriopsis Caapi leaves lying around.

Is there anything useful I can do with these, like make a tea that would be of benefit to the planned journeys?

Thanks for the feedback.
 
antrocles said:
caapi + chaliponga = ayahuasca ceremony that will transform your life.

period.

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!

Nice one Antrocles.

With 100 g Chali and 25 g B-Caapi Leaves (yellow) - are there any recipes on the forum? Is there enough Caapi?
 
ghostman said:
I have 100 g Chaliponga and 25 g Banisteriopsis Caapi leaves lying around.

Is there anything useful I can do with these, like make a tea that would be of benefit to the planned journeys?

Thanks for the feedback.


Well 100g of good Chali is about 7-15 good Aya doses, unfortunately you do not have enough Caapi leaf for even one Aya dose. If you got, say 100g of strong Yellow or White Caapi VINE, then you could make a brew.

I suggest just rolling up a few Caapi joints and smoking them 5-10 minutes before smoking your Spice.

As far as tea, I just don't think you have enough Caapi leaf. The leaves of the Caapi plant are not as strong as the vine, and 25g is a low dose of the Vine...so...yeah. smoke it for best results.
 
acolon_5 said:
ghostman said:
I have 100 g Chaliponga and 25 g Banisteriopsis Caapi leaves lying around.

Is there anything useful I can do with these, like make a tea that would be of benefit to the planned journeys?

Thanks for the feedback.


Well 100g of good Chali is about 7-15 good Aya doses, unfortunately you do not have enough Caapi leaf for even one Aya dose. If you got, say 100g of strong Yellow or White Caapi VINE, then you could make a brew.

I suggest just rolling up a few Caapi joints and smoking them 5-10 minutes before smoking your Spice.

As far as tea, I just don't think you have enough Caapi leaf. The leaves of the Caapi plant are not as strong as the vine, and 25g is a low dose of the Vine...so...yeah. smoke it for best results.

Thanks acolon_5. I have Changa made with these leaves, so I may make a Caapi joint before. I'll order more Caapi leaf, or vine and do some research on the brew.

Peace.
 
^ please do.

Ayahuasca (actual traditional Aya) is an amazing experience. Caapi itself is an amazing plant.

I hope you two have an enjoyable weekend!

May I ask how the Android smoke works? Does the Chali seem to add anything to the experience?
 
25 grams vine is eoungh for aya..for me anyway..even 25 grams alone is powerful for me..that is good ceilo vine though..not leaves...never worked with leaves.

Everyones MAO profile is different..jsut because 1 person needs 100 grams doesnt mean someone else does.

I would just brew the whole 25 grams of leaf anyway and add some chaliponga..and then smoke some spice with it..chaliponga is orally active anyway..you should feel something.

I drank 30 grams of cielo the other night as I was having visions from that alone.
 
acolon_5 said:
^ please do.

Ayahuasca (actual traditional Aya) is an amazing experience. Caapi itself is an amazing plant.

I hope you two have an enjoyable weekend!

May I ask how the Android smoke works? Does the Chali seem to add anything to the experience?

The Android is definitely augmented by the Chali.

I am used to straight spice, which always takes me to certain places, outwards, bright and vivid. I have a mantis that gets in my head and reprograms me and I have a jester who's quite edgy and can slow down time.

The Android I can only describe as subterranean. It's earthy, underground. I was tunneling through earth with a worm like thing that had the chrysanthemum face. It was more grounded, slower. Less frantic. Recently I got walloped by spice and was afraid to go back in. The Android is a good warm up for a clean spice trip.

This weekend I plan to test more of the Changa (Android and Electric Sheep)
 
You could make a crude alcohol and or alc/acetone extract of the caapi, and set it aside (for now). Do anykind of a stb pull on the chaliponga , add the goody filled solvent to an equal amount of heavily acidified water and stir. After amount 10 minutes of mixing you can remove and discard the fatty solvent. Add a little clean solvent and basify to high ph, around 13.4, as this will stop all emusions and this will also remove some of the other alklaloids in the leaves leaving more of a N-N dmt product. Evap or freeze precipitate to leave feebase dmt.

Now swim would take that previous caapi extract and combine it with the chali extract for a potentially life changing smoke. Peace and Godspeed!
 
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