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I think I've created a supramolecular gel with DMT/NMT
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That's not new
Are you proposing a stoichiometry, and do you have analytical evidence for this? temperature does affect pH, but maybe not significantly.
You may be able to exploit the low solubility of magnesium ammonium phosphate, but it's probably easier just to ensure the DMT is in freebase form and pull it with naphtha, this time ensuring you don't evaporate all the naphtha off.
That looks rather like the alks have crystallised out on top of the plant material. What is the pH of the water in there?
BloodyOath
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That's not new
temperature does affect pH, but maybe not significantly.
You may be able to exploit the low solubility of magnesium ammonium phosphate, but it's probably easier just to ensure the DMT is in freebase form and pull it with naphtha, this time ensuring you don't evaporate all the naphtha off.
That looks rather like the alks have crystallised out on top of the plant material. What is the pH of the water in there?
It's only responding to more salt and base. I know it's N/DMT because I'm watching the supramolecular gel reorganize itself. Can literally watch the maroon and white particles finding each other. I'd assume once you have the supra gel you could add any acid you want to precipitate out. Once the supramolecular gel is formed it just does it's thing as long as you give it the right conditions.
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Gave it a zip zap stir with glass pipette and this is about 1 minute after settling and re-x.
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https://share.google/aimode/NkAYmmAMBXibEfZlF Acids that can be attached that are photo-sensitive. Looks like Cinnamic Acid could be very interesting. "The double bonds of two adjacent cinnamic acid molecules literally reach across and break open, bonding together to form a four-membered cyclobutane ring (truxillic or truxinic acid).".
[edit] https://share.google/aimode/S3g4rScNqE8TeD7ni Holy [flip]! [Edited for language by mod]
[edit] https://share.google/aimode/S3g4rScNqE8TeD7ni Holy [flip]! [Edited for language by mod]
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I'm not sure where you're going with this, nor what you think the utility might be.
Use of AI is only as helpful as the user's ability to effectively interpret it.
If there's magnesium present at pH 10, it will be forming the hydroxide, or possibly a hydroxy double salt with one of the other anions present.
Why did you think a supramolecular gel would be the explanation for your observations here? Do you have any concrete evidence for this being the case?
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I 100% have a supramolecular gel. Ask me any question about it's behavour, I'm not sure what I'm looking for exactly. It kinetically snaps in to any water it touches. I think the Shellite might allow the fumurate, nmt and dmt coalesce then the shellite evaps off leaving the salt. When I get new product I will try it out but this is very simple for anyone that has some to try right now. The utility could be orally active dmt.
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I like how I'm being fully dismissed right now. I get it, some random new poster is claiming this thing that no one was even thinking about. It would be nice to have a bit of help rather than criticism if possible. I get the skepticism but god. I've laid it all out and it's kind of clear to me as someone who knows high school chem.
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There ya go. Heat the shellite, fumaric acid, dmt and nmt on a magnetic stirrer to create the supramolecular gel. From there you can use the supramolecular gel to precipitate any acid you want as long as it's stronger than the fumaric, if I understand rightly.
That's the trouble with science - it may seem dismissive, when in fact it's people trying to get the facts straight.
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Oh yeah, I'm stupid. Being Ph 10 means it's another reaction from the salt to n/dmt freebase co-alloy crystal.
The other part of the trick is determining that you haven't accidentally re-invented the wheel...
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Oh, I'm aware I didn't discover a new molecule but I did discover a new extraction method that allows N/DMT to precipitate with minimal effort and the fact that you can attach a harmala to it in the same extraction and come out with oral DMT is a pretty decent thing in my eyes.
Be sure to include a picture of the final product. Have you tried it yet?
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For sure I will. Nah, I'm going to do a melt test first and see how pure it is off that. Bit risky but enough for me lol
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