What has DMT taught you about yourself?

[Mystic0]

The most profound thing these substances have taught me is how little I actually know. I don't mean that to sound cheeky or Zen deep I mean it quite literally.
We all go so caught up in our experiences and start to think we have some clue as to what's going on. The truth is we don't know as much as we think we do. In fact its probably not even possible to have significant comprehension of the absolute nature of reality.
DMT has taught me to humbly give opinions on subjects with massive disclaimers of agnosticism on all matters.

Bingo.

 

[wearepeople]

The most profound thing these substances have taught me is how little I actually know. I don't mean that to sound cheeky or Zen deep I mean it quite literally.
We all go so caught up in our experiences and start to think we have some clue as to what's going on. The truth is we don't know as much as we think we do. In fact its probably not even possible to have significant comprehension of the absolute nature of reality.
DMT has taught me to humbly give opinions on subjects with massive disclaimers of agnosticism on all matters.

Well said Olympus.

Humility and treating others with respect an love have all been themes in my dmt experiences.

 

[Orion]

That I am some sort of mixture between a lunatic, a genius, and a completely sane person. Or it has simply taught me I am tripping balls.

Honestly though... I have learned profound things from the experience. For a long time I tried to grasp the THING... you know....that THING we all feel when we go 'there'. The BIG thing as I came to call it. Once I 'let go', either intentionally or not, I will return to endlessness. I will die. I will shed my body and return to all. But not as me, as EVERYTHING that ever was, ever will be, and that I already am, wrapped in this trip I call my life. Energy never dies, and that is what I am. Immortal as a force. I am nature. I'm the gravity of my own immensity. The big thing is me, and I'm cool with that 8)

 

[Aftermath]

What about negative emotions? (like shame and guilt)

Shame is obviously a social construct but it's still hard to get rid of.

 

[Guyomech]

Psychedelics purged me of worrying about what others, especially this abstract construct known as "society", think of me or of my actions, and showed me that I am one with everything in a literal sense.

DMT in particular always presents me with this incredible and tantalizing puzzle, where each answer just opens the next bewildering level of questions.

And that this dude named Guy is a process, a journey... The Guy trip. Not a thing with a brain; that's a misleading material perspective.

That I am in flux, always. That this is a good thing, and there is no point trying to hold on. Be in the habit of change.

...That life is beautiful, period.

 

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Im lovin this thread 8)

 

[acacian]

great thread.. and olympus mon... really enjoyed your post!

i guess dmt has taught me that I am sensitive for a reason. its made me realise that I am not my body or my thoughts, and I should not be hard on myself for the thoughts I have. I've learnt that I am a genuinely good hearted person, and that I am capable of achieving great things, and helping others- but I must be in touch with my essence to do so... i overthink things too much and its something I need to work on.

the other thing its taught me is that even the most unpleasant of feelings I have stem from the yearn to love and be loved

 

[The M tea]

Dmt has reduced my complexities down to a simple expression of myself,by dislocating noisy parts of my brain,and reactivating the primal reptile perspective.
It has taught me of the now,the timeless and peaceful state between states,where i can go,when the goin gets rough and recharge my batteries.Just like meditation,a very simple state of being.
Tripping on dmt have made me aware of spirits and ghosts,and inspired me to walk the way of the shaman.

 

[joedirt]

Above all else psychedelics have on occasions allowed me to understand that I am in no way shape or form this ego.

When every aspect of 'I', 'me', 'mine' get's stripped away and only pure awareness is left one comes to understand that they are not that which thinks. We are that which is aware.

We normall think of having 5 senses which in many way's are outside of our control.

What I believe now is that the mind is also a sense. The mind, much like the eyes, has a part that is in our control, but the vast majority of what goes on in the mind is not under your conscious control.

You are not your mind. How could your 'brain' allow you to maintain awareness when the entire cortex is flooded with a foreign neurotransmitter? I won't go into the spiritual/materialism debate again because it's just pointless in this forum.

But I will say this. If you EVER really do glimpse the godhead. You will be changed.

But remember this one piece of advice...an echo of Olymon.

I don't care if you drink aya 1000 times you will still not understand it all. Do not form any beliefs about it unless you can repeat it, and even then continue to question it. As soon as you believe you have the final say on truth you have closed yourself off from all further truths.

Lastly, everyone will not learn the same lessons. We are not all at the same place. It really is as simple as that. So you want a godhead experience do ya? Well the people I personally know that have had these experiences have an outside meditation practice. Yes it can happen with out it. But IMHO psychedelics are a mirror. Live a life dedicated to seeking the truth and living an upstanding moral life. Meditate regularly to help learn about your mind. Become comfortable in that kind of life then undertake a psychedelic voyage with the intent of spiritual transformation and you just might very well be surprised at what happens.

It's all subjective. It's a mirror to you.
No one else can ever have the same experience as you.

Peace

 

[Global]

Lastly, everyone will not learn the same lessons. We are not all at the same place. It really is as simple as that. So you want a godhead experience do ya? Well the people I personally know that have had these experiences have an outside meditation practice.

I guess I'm in the opposite boat then because I only really started meditating after I had my first godhead experience. For me, the things that DMT has got me to pursue/research in every day life happened first via a DMT vision which then led me to pursue it. That sounds cryptic, so I'll give you an example.

My interest in Egypt only developed with a real strong conviction only after my first Egyptian vision where I was in a pyramid with holographic Pharaohs. I don't feel it was the other way around, or if it was, then maybe it's a past-lives concept that I don't understand (i.e. having lived or had something to do with Egypt/Atlantis/whatever). My brother on the other hand who has journeyed a lot along with all of the others I've administered it to, have never seen any Egyptian imagery. So you're definitely right, that we don't all go to the same place, see the same things or have the same lessons, but I do find it curious why or how it is that we are tailored with our individual experiences.

 

[MySmelf]

Well, I successfully convinced myself beyond any doubt that I EXIST! :shock:

I am learning to consciously walk my path instead of being led down it.

I am "evolving" into a fully realized and whole being.

The Universe is the Most Wonderful, Beautiful, Pointless thing EVER!

And I am but one thing and that thing is all there is - I AM LOVE

 

[acacian]

Lastly, everyone will not learn the same lessons. We are not all at the same place. It really is as simple as that. So you want a godhead experience do ya? Well the people I personally know that have had these experiences have an outside meditation practice.

I guess I'm in the opposite boat then because I only really started meditating after I had my first godhead experience. For me, the things that DMT has got me to pursue/research in every day life happened first via a DMT vision which then led me to pursue it. That sounds cryptic, so I'll give you an example.

My interest in Egypt only developed with a real strong conviction only after my first Egyptian vision where I was in a pyramid with holographic Pharaohs. I don't feel it was the other way around, or if it was, then maybe it's a past-lives concept that I don't understand (i.e. having lived or had something to do with Egypt/Atlantis/whatever). My brother on the other hand who has journeyed a lot along with all of the others I've administered it to, have never seen any Egyptian imagery. So you're definitely right, that we don't all go to the same place, see the same things or have the same lessons, but I do find it curious why or how it is that we are tailored with our individual experiences.

this reminds me a so much of some experiences i have had with mushrooms! especially the holographic pharoahs and pyramids. only i had been very interested in egypt as a child, and it was not until this trip that I found myself with a keen interest in it again.

 

[Guyomech]

Although you can go into a trip with your intention set on learning specific things, what's just as likely- or probably far more likely- is that you will end up unlearning things; hangups about dealing with people, concepts of self and identity, models of the world around you. This stuff all becomes suddenly and blatantly obsolete. It can be a highly valuable experience for shaking yourself free of those things.

 

[joedirt]

Lastly, everyone will not learn the same lessons. We are not all at the same place. It really is as simple as that. So you want a godhead experience do ya? Well the people I personally know that have had these experiences have an outside meditation practice.

I guess I'm in the opposite boat then because I only really started meditating after I had my first godhead experience. For me, the things that DMT has got me to pursue/research in every day life happened first via a DMT vision which then led me to pursue it. That sounds cryptic, so I'll give you an example.

My interest in Egypt only developed with a real strong conviction only after my first Egyptian vision where I was in a pyramid with holographic Pharaohs. I don't feel it was the other way around, or if it was, then maybe it's a past-lives concept that I don't understand (i.e. having lived or had something to do with Egypt/Atlantis/whatever). My brother on the other hand who has journeyed a lot along with all of the others I've administered it to, have never seen any Egyptian imagery. So you're definitely right, that we don't all go to the same place, see the same things or have the same lessons, but I do find it curious why or how it is that we are tailored with our individual experiences.

No friend I don't think you are the opposite at all! I also started with LSD when I was much younger and this led to a fascination with meditation. However, having spent years doing psychs without any sort of spiritual belief system and noticing the frequency of these experiences (once out of hundreds) vs the frequency of them sense I started daily meditation. Well there is no question in my mind that who I am as a person has shaped my psychedelic experiences in huge way's.

But, let me be clear the Godhead is not the only experience shaped from meditation practice. What I'm proposing with my initial post is that if you change who you are in daily life the quality of your psychedelic excursions which qualitatively change as well. You become a better human (you define that) then your psychedelic experiences will be better (again you define that).

It doesn't matter which comes first meditation or psychs. What matters is change in daily life, this will result in neural changes that will eventually make it much less likely to have extremely negative trips. This is just my humble observation after 25 years of exploring my consciousness.

 

[joedirt]

Although you can go into a trip with your intention set on learning specific things, what's just as likely- or probably far more likely- is that you will end up unlearning things; hangups about dealing with people, concepts of self and identity, models of the world around you. This stuff all becomes suddenly and blatantly obsolete. It can be a highly valuable experience for shaking yourself free of those things.

It can indeed.

However it is also possible to maintain a very clear lucid focus going into the trip and to get guidance about a specific topic from yourself. It is something one can get better at with practice.

The more you set an intention and learn to hold a focus the more likely it is you can do this on a repeatable fashion.

Ala...back to my point about meditation. Learning to hold your mind on a single topic for even 5 minutes (which is FAR harder than most people believe) can radically alter your ability to push and pull the psychedelic voyage into a direction you want it to go in.

But for sure if one takes a large enough dose, to large a dose, they will just convulse and shake, and cold sweat for hours in a rapidly alternating field of conscious/unconscious states. They will wish they died...and sometimes those experiences can be healing as well, though I personally find them of little value.

 

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But I will say this. If you EVER really do glimpse the godhead. You will be changed.

Yes......yes indeed

Out of hundreds of smoked journeys I've only had this experience once. And it had been about a month after I started doing meditation for 45 minutes, twice a day, ever day of the week. After about 15 minutes of meditating i would go completely weightless in every aspect and my stream of thoughts would slowly diminish until I was no thoughts, just awareness. This meditation work certainly aided to my experience.

 

[SmoovPnCali]

The Molecule has taught me several less prolific things about myself, but the one thing it has taught me and fully changed my being is this:

You know that little voice in the back of your head that tends to pop up when you come to a cross road? That is a decision...weither it is an important decision or a trivial one....LISTEN TO IT! That voice will never lead you astray. It is there to guide you and keep you on the right path and has a wider view of every situation than you do. LISTEN TO IT!

 

[marz]

DMT has made me more religious the effects are so profound its truly amazing really makes u think that there is something else out there if I where to die hyperspace is where i would like to go:?

 

[joedirt]

DMT has made me more religious the effects are so profound its truly amazing really makes u think that there is something else out there if I where to die hyperspace is where i would like to go:?

My friend it's not so much that DMT makes one religious. DMT has the potential to facilite much more profound thinking than the normal person typically takes part in during the course of their daily lives. Psychedelics tend to boost one's ability to ponder the deeper meanings of the Universe. They by no means force a person to do this though.

If you spent more time really trying to understand what a lot of us are saying you will find it actually has very little to do with the drug itself. The drug has often times been a catalyst for deeper thought which allowed us to think in radically different way's about our lives. Often times this results in a complete paradigm shift. Sometimes quickly and sometimes it takes place over a longer period of time.

If I were to say, "We are all one". Can you honestly make any rational argument against it without giving in to the urge to jokingly dismiss it as a stupid crazy idea? Don't just respond. Sit and think about it. At what point in time do you become you? Can any of us live alone on the moon?

Perhaps individuality is just a thought generated inside our brains and perhaps that thought is made of the exact same substance as the thought 'we'. What makes the thought 'I' any more important than the thought 'we' in the grand scheme of the Universe? I wonder how profoundly different the world would be if more people started thinking in terms of we?

Perhaps we aren't really as shallow as you make us out to be?

Peace

 

[Botanical Bliss]

In the several experiences I've had so far, it's awakened me to a much higher consciousness than I had attained through the use of other psychedelics such as acid. Not to talk down on other psychs, I've learned plenty with them.

Anyway, dmt has really helped show me the importance of finding the light within. I used to let the uglieness of the things happening in the world affect my inner peace and make me sad and angry all the time at the world. But now I realize that I must look within and change myself for the better, because what better way to change the world than start with yourself? I try to be much more positive now. Meditation helps, but I don't do it daily as I'd like to. I need a more strict meditation schedule for myself.

Which reminds me, another thing I've learned is to "let go, surrender." However, I have some trouble doing that sometimes. I think it's something I can get better at with more meditation.

The past few months have felt like I've been increasingly becoming more awakened to my true, higher self. I try to eat more healthy food, but I'm not 100% with doing that, but it's made a difference. I haven't been smoking as much pot, as I've realized it lingers and I'm always in a fog when I use multiple times a day every day, which leads to social anxiety.

Dmt has really brought out my subconscious and helped me work with things within that I wasn't able to before.

This may sound strange to some, but with a community like this I feel ya'll might understand and agree to some points, but I definately experience much more synchronocities now, pretty much on a daily basis. For example I'll be thinking about something then shortly afterwards something totally related to what I was thinking happens. Synchrocities have been a daily thing for me now, and I've experienced it right after a dmt trip before too, so I really believe it's related to dmt.

I'm also very sensitive to energies that people bring with them. I can just sense a person's energy and see if it's good or bad.

I will finish with a Cherokee story, that I recently posted in another thread, but I feel it has a lot to do with integrating the dmt experience, and life in general:

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.

"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed



And above all, one of the things that has come to me with dmt, is the knowledge that we don't really know that much at all about the true nature of reality and existence. It's such a great mystery!