Whats DMT, asks my group of friends.....

[allnatural]

I'm a certified nerd of one drug forum or another. I've been interested in DMT for quite a long time and have a kilo of MHRB in the mail. I've been researching DMT extraction for a while and feel confident ill get results. I've never smoked DMT before. I've never known anyone who has smoke DMT before. I've never done any hallucinogens besides low dose LSD ( 1 tab), low dose shrooms (1/2 8th), and quite a bit of MDMA.

Im confident ill get a decent extraction of DMT. I have a handful of friends that i've hyped up, telling them that DMT is a unique drug that will take them on a journey they never imagined.

Noman tek seems to be the obvious choice as far as low maintenance teks go. Im planning to use a vapo bong( aka meth bong) for my first attempts. I've looked a the vapo genie and others but they seem way too expensive. Also I dont have a drill to make the machine our of a bottle.

Any advice for a newbie DMT smoker is more than welcomed. PLEASE POST IN MY THREAD, I NEED MORE INFO ON WHAT WORKED FOR YOU AND HOW TO MAKE DMT A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

Love and Thanks to all that respond.

 

[Ayawasqero]

Be greeted. Check the DMT-Nexus Wiki for more input. You seem to be well prepared for extraction. Good luck.

 

[gammagore]

Hi

Welcome to the Nexus

DMT will show you and your freinds things unimaginable. It will also show you its not a drug, its something more.

No drill for a machine, use a bong, ash sandwich is said to work well, changa works much better, no hit and miss there. If you do use the meth pipe, do remember to use one of them jet lighters and baby that dose, you dont want to burn the Spice.

when you do decide to test the goods, make sure you and all your friends are quite, also might be a good idea to blast off with just one other person in the room with you.

Other than that, do read around the forum, all sorts of questions have been asked and answered here, this is like a library for Spice.

Peace

 

[Blackstatis]

welcome

like gamma says, this is not a drug. good luck with your extraction, it can be very simple and effective. i would suggest you try it by yourself maybe your first time, so that when you bring it to your friends, you can explain a little more.

this isn't something to get "fucked up on" if you know what i mean. don't think that since you have tripped before that you can handle this easy. its a humbling experience.

it comes on quick, after the first hit sometimes. i can't stress how important it is for you to finish your dose completely, it sometimes takes me 5 or 6 hits to get it all and usually by the time i put the pipe down, i am engulfed in what is going on. what i'm saying is that you may want to stop after the 2nd hit because it comes on so quick, i urge you to keep hitting it.

good luck with your extraction and enjoy your time in hyperspace.






shvecular vortex.....^

 

[Infundibulum]

Any advice for a newbie DMT smoker is more than welcomed. PLEASE POST IN MY THREAD, I NEED MORE INFO ON WHAT WORKED FOR YOU AND HOW TO MAKE DMT A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE FOR A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

Hi allnatural and welcome to the forums,

I'd like to advice you to be reasonably careful with whom you share things with and what you do. I personally see the whole thing (hyping-up people about dmt, willing to provide dmt to a large number of people etc etc) a bit dangerous and off-putting. I have issues with this type of attitude, especially when it includes both illegal substances AND inexperienced people. The way your text is phrased seems as if you're planning a party devoted to dmt binge!

What would possibly suit your company's needs would be an ayahuasca experience.

As for more info on the subject, please do your homework (re dmt) and tell your friends to do their homework as well!

 

[Dimitri-Trance]

Well Allnatural,

For me as a beginner in hyperspace...was never able to breakthrough with the sandwich methoed but many people encourage other to do so. In fact I my first breakthrough was with a light bulb.....All I can say is to vaporize it good...with a good flame(zippo lighter)....about an inch away from the glass as if you were boiling some water.

I would advise for no one to try the ash methoed.....
Its like saying if you trip on a 50ug dose of lsd it will be as weak as dmt between ashes.
If you vaporize it good the it will be like an 600ug lsd dose.
My first acid trip (50ug) was so weak that I tough at first it was good...Just like dmt in ashes....My lsd trip at 600ug was an actual lsd trip that I was amazed by....Like dmt being vaporized good enough, I was ASTONISHED!!!

 

[Astralking]

Well all i can say is, you will not have experienced anything like it before . It's not like any drug i'd ever done.

The only thing i will say is jumping from a low dose of lsd/shrooms or not much experience with psychedelics to DMT is a big big step. I mean, this is just my opinion but for some one thats not really "tripped" as such, DMT is a huge step.

You dont need a drill for the machine anyway by the way. Theres a trick where you fill up a bottle with water then hit the top and the bottom drops right out. I used that for my first machine.

Welcome to the forums by the way.

 

[WSaged]

I would advise for no one to try the ash methoed.....
Its like saying if you trip on a 50ug dose of lsd it will be as weak as dmt between ashes.

Maybe For You...
There are a number of different methods for vaporizing DMT without burning it, the ash-sandwich method works great for some people!!
I don't like to do it that way either...but some people swear by it.
I prefer to use a piece of brillo in the bowl of a water pipe...works best for me...Others claim that it doesn't work to well for them.

So if you are new to this, you'll need to try every method out there until you find which one works best FOR YOU!

If you vaporize it good the it will be like an 600ug lsd dose.

No, it will be like a full on DMT experience...which is absolutely nothing like any LSD I've had & I have had a ton in my time!
The final 5-10 minutes of the come down can kind of be compared to LSD.....kind of.


WS

 

[extrememetal43]

Stop telling people your making it! Its not worth the mental stress of someone get busted and flippin on you. It is the most beautiful thing in the world but its also very illegal so keep your mouth shut about it.

Besides that good luck itl blow you away!

 

[Spock's Brain]

my advice is to really get the heavy white vapor going in your device by gentle consistent heating before you hit it. And then show your friends how to do the same. It's a dissapointment when your friend tries it, and he only gets a wisp going by the time he reaches his inhalation capacity, and then when he gets ready to quit then you see the heavy white arise in the pipe. and then before he can take a 2nd, he's too dissoriented to do it. So get the stuff a'boilin before you move the pipe to your lips, and only plan on one hit... but make it count. Getting the thick heavy vapor all the way thru one slow consistent inhalation is key.

 

[DMTripper]

I recommend you do it yourself several times before you give it to your friends. You might realize that some of your friends would never handle or like it and could get EXTREMELY TERRIFIED and they could take a long time to get over that experience. Believe me you don't want to be responsible for your friend experiencing his/her worst hellish nightmare. It's not likely but if people are not ready for it and get scared it can get ugly.

Peace and respect!

 

[shoe]

Greetings newbie!

You are about to embark upon an experience like no other. Nothing can prepare you for DMT. SWIM am an experienced journier and he still gets pre-flight anxiety. you definately should get pre-flight anxiety. I would be worried for you if you didn't!

Things SWIM finds to have positive effects.
Please don't sneer at this and think "why would I need to do all of that?"... You'll see.
And there are many others before me who have blazed this path.

1) Meditate. Meditate alot. get up early and meditate.

2) Set & Setting are absolutely essential. Prepare the area. Tidy up. Put incense and candles on. One can have allot of fun experimenting with different settings (bath with candles, cross-legged, outdoors, etc.) but in general, you must feel comfortable. I can't imagine anyone smoking DMT in a place they didn't feel comfortable with, that's just crazzee talk!

3) Purify yourself. Whether it is working out at the gym, or engaging in dieta.
The body is a temple and DMT really will show you that. Eat healthily.
Best to reap the reward than run the risk.

4) Quiet, psybient music is best, especially with an entheogenic twist. In order of bests: Hallucinogen In Dub, OTT, Deep forest, Shpongle, Kaya Project, Kuba, Entheogenic, Bluetech. All of these are fine choices. Remember not to have the music loud, because some aspects of some types of trips are best enjoyed without music as a huge distraction.

5) Focus your intention. If your intention is only 'to get high' or 'to experience something crazy' then its like riding a greased-up hoverboard that is set on over 9000%. Speak your intention to the pipe, say it to yourself, focus on it for a moment or whatever works for you. The DMT will know, because you will know.
Positive intentions like "how can I bring more love into the world" or "how can I make others happier" or "please show me how to improve the lives of those around me." selfless, loving intentions, are the best. If you don't feel like that, then how about: "please show me what you have to show me."; which worked for SWIM for ages. in general, when your intention is pure, your trip will be beautiful.

6) smoke allot. Smoke MORE than you thought you needed. Do not wuss out and smoke a little crumb. You should not be afraid of smoking too much, you can never smoke too much. on the contrary - you should be afraid of smoking too little and being half-in, half-out. Which, IMHO, Is disrespecting the spice.
If you smoke enough to feel fucked but don't make it through, then quickly reload the pipe with at-least double what you think you can take. You've got about two full minuets before tolerance will kick in. Long enough to run downstairs, grab your spice and run back upstairs again (hehe)

7) HOLD the smoke. Count to ten. Exhale, re-breath, Hold for ten. Good smoking technique will put you into some kind of place, first time, every time.


I wish you the best of luck.

But on the off chance that you do, eventually at some point, experience something not-so-friendly, remember that it is only an experience. You will be O.K. The human brain metabolises DMT incredibly fast, and so your physical being will bring you back no matter whether it was good or not.
everyone comes home, always.

Have fun man!! I look forward to reading your trip-reports

Please say hi to the elves for me, and squeeze their squishy little butts, fight with their rediculous multitudinal arms and legs, and make bizzare amorophous partial robot expressions at them. Thankyou, I miss them!

 

[shoe]

I recommend you do it yourself several times before you give it to your friends. You might realize that some of your friends would never handle or like it and could get EXTREMELY TERRIFIED and they could take a long time to get over that experience. Believe me you don't want to be responsible for your friend experiencing his/her worst hellish nightmare. It's not likely but if people are not ready for it and get scared it can get ugly.

Peace and respect!

On the contrary, being too overly concerned with their well-being, constantly re-iterating how much of a 'thing' it is, and how they must be ready and so-on, can in itself, scare people.

 

[Oncewas]

Ordered a kilo eh?

My advice is, give it away to your friends. DMT is not meant to be sold.

How i like to smoke it is put just a little bit of cannabis at the bottom of a dry bong. Put maybe 50-100mg ontop. Fill the chamber with one hit, and clear it, hold the smoke for as long as you possibly can. Smoke as much more of it as you can before you tele-port off(if you haven't already). Make sure you have a buddy to take the bong away from you so you don't break it. Don't burn it though try your best to vaporize it with a lighter. First it will melt then it will bubble/boil.

Oh and, fasten your seat-belt.

 

[allnatural]

Thanks for responses

The way your text is phrased it sounds like you're planning a party around DMT binge!

Not at all, its actually mainly my best friend that wants to try it but I've also told others from our group about it and they are interested. The reason I said the "large group of people" thing is because from what i've read the actual smoking of the DMT can be difficult so I wanted to see what people thought would be the easiest and best way to get it done.

In fact my first breakthrough ever was with a light bulb

I actually already have a home made light bulb vaporizer that I made one night because I was bored but the consensus seemed to be that it would be too harsh to breakthrough. I guess its worth a try though. Im thinking ill most likely fail though, considering my lungs are tender since I gave up the ganja about a year ago.

There is a trick where you fill up a bottle with water and hit the top and the bottom drops right out

Interesting, care to elaborate a little? I cant really visualize how that would work.

So if you are new to this you need to try every method out there until you find one that works FOR YOU!

Yea I have an old bubbler with a chip on the carb (still works though), maybe ill buy some brillo and give it a try.

Stop telling people your making it!

I'm not worried.

My advice is, give it away to your friends. DMT is not meant to be sold

Thats the plan

You might realize that some of your friends would never be able to handle or like it

We've all done salvia before (forgot to mention that in my original post), and while not all of us enjoyed the trip (including me) no one freaked out too much. In fact even though parts of it were pretty terrifying and no one has had the urge to try it again we all agreed that we're glad we had the experience. It was some potent stuff too, I think the little container said 50x strength, whatever that means.

And thanks for all the advice shoe. My room is a really chill spot so I was just panning on laying down on my bed and doing it there. I'm not so much into meditation, but my friend that's really keen to try it is. Maybe ill give it a shot.

 

[soulfood]

I would advise for no one to try the ash methoed.....
Its like saying if you trip on a 50ug dose of lsd it will be as weak as dmt between ashes.

Maybe For You...
There are a number of different methods for vaporizing DMT without burning it, the ash-sandwich method works great for some people!!


WS

Yeah I'm definately one of these people.

I don't use an ash sandwich as much as mix the dmt into some ash and then load it up, but the principle's the same.

 

[w0mbat]

Don't go in with the expectation that your experience will be like those of people who post on the boards here. When SWIM tried DMT for the first time, honestly he was a bit freaked out (even though s/he did not even come close to a breakthrough). DMT has none of the "euphoria" you get from drinking alcohol or smoking MJ, it's an entirely different creature.

Consider having your friends read some of the trip reports on erowid before trying it. It always pays to do your homework.

Also consider using one of the non-toxic limonene-based teks. It's fairly easy to extract DMT acetate, and then this can be freebased using 99% IPA (which can easily be made from 91% IPA using baked epsom salts) and sodium carbonate. All food-safe, all non-toxic. You up the danger and potential complications by using petroleum solvents, IMO, but it's your call at the end of the day.

 

[ThatsALotOfNuts]

Yeah, dmt is not a drug.. It's a real experience! It's in it's own league! My advise is to keep taking hits! At some point (2nd hit generally) you will feel like you can take no more, but you can.. This is the way to breakthrough! You need to keep hitting until you can't understand what a bong or a pipe is.. And relax.. Put the music you like, low light, candles work really great (away from you of course)
When you do it post experiences
Peace

 

[DMTripper]

I recommend you do it yourself several times before you give it to your friends. You might realize that some of your friends would never handle or like it and could get EXTREMELY TERRIFIED and they could take a long time to get over that experience. Believe me you don't want to be responsible for your friend experiencing his/her worst hellish nightmare. It's not likely but if people are not ready for it and get scared it can get ugly.

Peace and respect!

On the contrary, being too overly concerned with their well-being, constantly re-iterating how much of a 'thing' it is, and how they must be ready and so-on, can in itself, scare people.

I'm not talking about lecturing them. I'm just saying you should get to know the stuff before you start to give it to someone. Read again what I wrote and you see I didn't say a word about saying anything to them before blasting off. Just know where you're sending them. Not everyone likes hyperspace. Actually most people would get terrified being thrown into hyperspace.

 

[allnatural]

Consider having your friends read some of the trip reports on erowid before trying it. It always pays to do your homework.

I actually have a folder on my hard drive with a bunch of my favorite trip reports. Im gonna print them out and give them to everyone who wants to do it beforehand.

Also consider using one of the non-toxic limonene-based teks

I've already got all the materials for Nomans tek, including the suggested safety gear.

When you do it post experiences

For sure

I'm just saying you should get to know the stuff before you start to give it to someone

I'm planning on doing at least one sub-breakthrough dose before I attempt a full on experience. I've read some people think that may not be the best idea, but I think it would be good if I have at least some idea of what to expect before I go all out.