Yeah, 69ron was right about that.Aum_Shanti said:Offtopic, but @Dragonrider:
Bufotenin goes very well with shrooms, ayahuasca and LSD. I haven't tried it with mescaline.
On it's own it's boring for me, as it's just Visuals, basically.
Is there anywhere a more detailed report about your experiences with Bufo (ROA, dosage, duration, ...). Also the come-up speed would be interesting, as I read in a paper that it has much bigger problems crossing the BBB than e.g. 5-MeO-DMT.
Would be very interested, as there is IMHO a severe lack of proper reports about this substance.
69ron once wrote it is extremely visual, but without the mindfuck. Would you say the same?
If there isn't a report by you yet, please make one in the Bufo section...
My only experiences with it, where in the form of yopo: I slightly baked the seeds and removed the husks.
Because i didn't know whether edible lime would be harmfull to the lungs or not, i didn't basify it when i smoked it, but i did use lime all the times i took it sublinually.
Therefore my experiences with smoked bufotenin are different from my experiences with sublingual bufo. Free-base bufo is definately superior to untreated yopo. There where almost no side effects when i took it sublingually. However, smoking it is the superior ROA. The effects of smoked yopo where far more powerfull then the sublingual yopo, but there where more side-effects as well.
When i smoked untreated yopo, there was a period of nausea and dizzyness. This would last for a maybe a minute. These effects where never extremely unpleasant, but it definately felt a bit toxic. It feels a bit like a slight nicotine overdose. The body feels kind of heavy. Howver, these effects quickly subside.
What happens then i can best describe as a visual whirlwind. There are Visuals that are very simmilar to those of DMT at a near breakthrough dose, or a large amount of shrooms. Maybe there's a bit more purple in it.
They are incredibly energetic..they are morphing fast, and there are flashes of light.
There are virtually no other than visual effects. Maybe it feels a bit like a first cup of strong coffee in the morning, on an empty stomach, but that's it.
The sublingual yopo was a lot weaker, but without any of the side effects. What surprised me the first time, was that it started to work almost immediately. Just a second after putting it under my tongue, there are waves of mushroom Visuals washing over you.
If you're sober, it's pretty boring. But if you're already tripping, it's quite spectacular ofcourse. It's like your Visuals are amplified by a factor 2 or 3. And almost immediately, like i said. And a slightly light-headed feeling.
It doesn't last very long. After maybe 15 minutes, the effects start to diminish. I find it hard to say how long before you're completely back to normal, because most of the times i took it, i was already tripping. And the only time i wasn't, i had smoked a little weed along with it. But i don't think it lasts for more than 30 minutes.